VAR independent review update

uneasydaz

uneasydaz

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Following the conclusion of the pre-split SPFL Premiership fixtures in the 2023/24 season, the VAR Independent Review Panel (IRP) have met to consider Key Match Incidents (KMIs).

The panel comprises former players, managers and coaches, guided by experts on the Laws of the Game.

In the opinion of the IRP, based on incidents requested by the panel or submitted for consideration, 26 KMIs have been adjudged to have reached an incorrect outcome since the start of the season.

To date, there have been a total of 1181 VAR reviews conducted in the SPFL Premiership. Whilst the majority of these are silent checks of on field incidents which require no intervention, 76 have resulted in on-field reviews (0.4 on-field reviews per match) while another 36 have been factual overturns (ie offside, inside/outside penalty area).

90.3% of on-field decisions are considered correct by the IRP, increased to 97.8% when including VAR interventions.

Scottish FA Referee Operations shared these statistics to the Premiership clubs on Wednesday morning as part of an update on the performance of VAR in Scotland.
 
Big Vern said:
Would be interesting to see what the 26 incorrect decisions were
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They named at least 10 of them previously before new year. Sima against Dundee was a clear penalty so can’t see why that came up

VAR correct to recommend an on-field review for a potential penalty for Hearts' Liam Boyce. Decision should have been penalty. (Motherwell v Hearts, 11 Nov)

VAR should have recommended an on-field review after Rangers' Ross McCausland was awarded a penalty. Decision should then been no penalty (Livingston v Rangers, 12 Nov)

VAR should have recommended an on-field review for a potential red card for Kilmarnock's Will Dennis. Decision should have been red card. (Kilmarnock v Hearts, 2 Dec)

VAR should have recommended an on-field review for a foul in the build-up to Motherwell's Bevis Mugabi's goal. Decision should have been disallow goal. (Motherwell v Dundee, 2 Dec)

VAR should have recommended an on-field review for a potential red card for Kilmarnock's Marley Watkins. Decision should have been red card. (Aberdeen v Kilmarnock, 6 Dec)

VAR should not have recommended an on-field review for a penalty after a foul on Rangers' Abdallah Sima. On-field decision of no penalty should have stood. (Rangers v Dundee, 9 Dec)

VAR should not have recommended an on-field review after Rangers' Jose Cifuentes was awarded a yellow card. On-field decision of yellow card should have stood. (Rangers v Dundee, 9 Dec)

VAR should have recommended an on-field review for a potential red card for Hearts' Beni Baningime. Decision should have been red card. (Aberdeen v Hearts, 9 Dec)

VAR should have recommended an on-field penalty review for a handball offence by Celtic's Alastair Johnston. Panel noted an offside in the build-up so decision should have remained to not award penalty. (Celtic v Rangers, 30 Dec)

VAR should have recommended an on-field review for a penalty for a foul on Hearts' Alan Forrest. Decision should have been to award a penalty. (Hearts v Ross County, 30 Dec)
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uneasydaz said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1785625501546971227

Following the conclusion of the pre-split SPFL Premiership fixtures in the 2023/24 season, the VAR Independent Review Panel (IRP) have met to consider Key Match Incidents (KMIs).

The panel comprises former players, managers and coaches, guided by experts on the Laws of the Game.

In the opinion of the IRP, based on incidents requested by the panel or submitted for consideration, 26 KMIs have been adjudged to have reached an incorrect outcome since the start of the season.

To date, there have been a total of 1181 VAR reviews conducted in the SPFL Premiership. Whilst the majority of these are silent checks of on field incidents which require no intervention, 76 have resulted in on-field reviews (0.4 on-field reviews per match) while another 36 have been factual overturns (ie offside, inside/outside penalty area).

90.3% of on-field decisions are considered correct by the IRP, increased to 97.8% when including VAR interventions.

Scottish FA Referee Operations shared these statistics to the Premiership clubs on Wednesday morning as part of an update on the performance of VAR in Scotland.
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Interesting they have stopped detailing the errors
 
i wonder if the clubs can ask for clarity on what decisions or at least what games the mistakes were made in wont be ling in working the rest out ourselves
 
I think the last update in February had 16 incorrect decisions, so there's been a further 10.

I think they provide further detail on the decisions later on.
 
The 10 decisions are all listed on an article in the Scottish Football section of BBC website.
 
Jake11 said:
Who’s the experts, on the laws of the game.
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The 10 incorrect decisions shared with Premiership clubs on Wednesday were:

Rangers 2-1 Aberdeen (6/02/24): VAR intervention was correct, but final outcome should have been yellow card to Rangers' Dujon Sterling. Referee retained his on-field decision of a red card.

St Mirren 2-0 Dundee (7/02/24): VAR intervention was correct, but final outcome should have been yellow card to St Mirren's James Bolton. Referee retained his on-field decision of a red card.

Ross County 1-1 St Mirren (27/2/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Final outcome should have been penalty awarded against Ross County for handball.

Hearts 1-1 Hibernian (28/2/24): VAR intervention correct, but penalty decision, which led to Hearts' equaliser, should have been overturned - no foul and no penalty should have been awarded.

Kilmarnock 1-2 Rangers (28/2/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Final outcome should have been penalty decision, which led to Kilmarnock opening the scoring, overturned - no handball offense against Rangers.

Hearts 2-0 Celtic (3/3/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Penalty decision should have been overturned - no foul and no penalty should have been awarded to Celtic.

Hearts 2-0 Celtic (3/3/24): On-field decision correct, no penalty to Hearts. Handball should not have been awarded for spot-kick that led to opening goal.

Motherwell 0-1 Aberdeen (16/04/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Penalty to Motherwell should have been awarded for handball.

Hibernian 1-2 St Johnstone (6/4/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Penalty should have been awarded to Hibs for foul by St Johnstone goalkeeper Dimitar Mitov.

St Mirren 1-2 Hearts (6/4/24): VAR intervention correct, but penalty should have been awarded to St Mirren for a foul on Conor McMenamin by Aidan Denholm.
 
Bigbluebear said:
No link?
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Rangers 2-1 Aberdeen (6/02/24): VAR intervention was correct, but final outcome should have been yellow card to Rangers' Dujon Sterling. Referee retained his on-field decision of a red card.

St Mirren 2-0 Dundee (7/02/24): VAR intervention was correct, but final outcome should have been yellow card to St Mirren's James Bolton. Referee retained his on-field decision of a red card.

Ross County 1-1 St Mirren (27/2/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Final outcome should have been penalty awarded against Ross County for handball.

Hearts 1-1 Hibernian (28/2/24): VAR intervention correct, but penalty decision, which led to Hearts' equaliser, should have been overturned - no foul and no penalty should have been awarded.

Kilmarnock 1-2 Rangers (28/2/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Final outcome should have been penalty decision, which led to Kilmarnock opening the scoring, overturned - no handball offense against Rangers.

Hearts 2-0 Celtic (3/3/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Penalty decision should have been overturned - no foul and no penalty should have been awarded to Celtic.

Hearts 2-0 Celtic (3/3/24): On-field decision correct, no penalty to Hearts. Handball should not have been awarded for spot-kick that led to opening goal.

Motherwell 0-1 Aberdeen (16/04/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Penalty to Motherwell should have been awarded for handball.

Hibernian 1-2 St Johnstone (6/4/24): VAR should have recommended an on-field review. Penalty should have been awarded to Hibs for foul by St Johnstone goalkeeper Dimitar Mitov.

St Mirren 1-2 Hearts (6/4/24): VAR intervention correct, but penalty should have been awarded to St Mirren for a foul on Conor McMenamin by Aidan Denholm.
 
The only way to counter the media propaganda from Celtic is to publish all the incorrect VAR calls.

Then we have full transparency. VAR should be judged on official reviews like this , not agenda driven guff from Stewart and Sutton.
 
madride said:
Am I reading that correctly that they’re saying Lundstram shouldn’t have been a handball but no mention of the Mayo handball?
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The Mayo one can be argued it wasnt a penalty based on his arm position - probably not incorrect whatever way it went, if that makes sense. Those ones are always a debate.

The one against us was clearly no penalty though and an awful call.
 
So these are rhe descisons they're showing us...but are we supposed to just forget that Roofe had a goal disallowed in an old firm game that finished 1 nil at Ibrox.

There's no doubting our own failures in letting the league slip away...but if that goal stands, then it would literally be level on points right now and a goal differnce of 3 in favour of celtic.

With 4 games to go that's a very different complexion. It's infuriating the impact these decisions early in the season can have when it comes to the final few weeks.
 
So

We were on the wrong end of decisions on two occasions, Sterling red card and Lundstram penalty against st Killie (I actually believe it should be 3 as the Mayo handball was clear cut)

The mentally challengeds benefited from the penalty award at Tynecastle but also shouldn’t have had the Hearts one awarded against them

And they say we benefit from VAR? Laughable.

The last round of wrongful decisions had a Souttar handball wrongly given as a penalty too
 
Bigbluebear said:
The Mayo one can be argued it wasnt a penalty based on his arm position - probably not incorrect whatever way it went, if that makes sense. Those ones are always a debate.

The one against us was clearly no penalty though and an awful call.
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His arm was stretched fully out the way and his body movement made it look like he was trying to save it as he moved to the ball rather than ball to hand. It was also crossed in a distance away from him so no excuses that way either. Insane that wasn't given.
 
Would love to know the criteria for this tbh. There are some incidents that were wrong (ie. Yang's penalty vs Hearts or the red card Steven McLean gave in the Dundee-St Mirren game. It wasn't a pen or a red card, but in Yang's case there was slight contact therefore not deemed as a clear and obvious error and in the Dundee case, the ref was asked to look at the monitor but stuck to his decision.

Both decisions wrong in 99% of people's eyes no doubt.
 
I am sure it was the same for a red card in the last period- said it should have been a yellow. Yet when we appealed it was knocked back.
 
DerHammer88 said:
Would love to know the criteria for this tbh. There are some incidents that were wrong (ie. Yang's penalty vs Hearts or the red card Steven McLean gave in the Dundee-St Mirren game. It wasn't a pen or a red card, but in Yang's case there was slight contact therefore not deemed as a clear and obvious error and in the Dundee case, the ref was asked to look at the monitor but stuck to his decision.

Both decisions wrong in 99% of people's eyes no doubt.
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The Dundee one probably wasn't a straight red but the guy had already been booked so even if McLean downgraded the red the guy would still be sent off.
 
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