Voting on VAR tomorrow

Sir Sasa Papac

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It's been the hot topic in Scottish football this season, and clubs are finally preparing to go the polls to debate VAR.

The video assistant referee has been widely implement in leagues, domestic cups and competitions across the globe.

We've become accustomed to seeing the technology in action during Champions League and Europa League clashes, as well as at Euro 2020 and during Scotland's World Cup qualifiers.

Serie A, the English Premier League, La Liga and the Bundelsiga are among the domestic divisions well versed in the format.

Now SPFL clubs will have their say on if the Scottish Premiership should be added to this list.

Record Sport gives you all the information you need to know ahead of the vote.

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When will the vote take place?​

All 42 SPFL clubs will vote on the proposal on Tuesday, April 19.

What will the vote take to be passed?​

The resolution requires 75 per cent of Premiership clubs, 75 cent of clubs in the Championship and 75 cent of League One and League Two clubs combined to vote in favour. It would, however, be introduced only in the top flight.

How will VAR work in Scottish football?​

If VAR is given the green light, the SFA will implement the system used across the globe and implemented by FIFA.

Officials will not be able to check if they have reached the right decision during a game.

However, the video assistant will flag up if a referee or official has made an obvious error or missed a serious incident.

VAR will not intervene to ensure a player is booked for a tackle, or to award a foul and a free-kick.

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Referees receiving VAR training at Hampden Park
Under FIFA guidelines, there are seven areas that VAR can become involved in.

  • To assist in penalty box decisions, a penalty kick or possible penalty kick offences.
  • To assist in goals scored. This includes all goals scored and the build up to the goal being scored.
  • For straight red card offences, such as violent conduct and the denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity.
  • For serious misapplications of the laws, for example, a goal being scored direct from a dropped ball or throw in.
  • For cases of mistaken identity.
  • When a penalty is taken, including encroachment on a player or a goalkeeper moving off their line. For serious, missed incidents in matches.

Who will be controlling the VAR system?​

The man behind the camera taking on the role as a video assistant referee will be current or recently retired Category 1 officials.

They will have six manned cameras in each game.

How much will it cost?​

Premiership sides will pay for the system. However, their financial contribution looks set to be based on league position.

The team that tops the table this season will be issued with biggest bill – paying 16.29 per cent of the total cost.

Second place will be required to fork out 11.67 per cent of the costs.

The pay scale drops as you travel down the league table with this seasons 12th place club paying much less than half than the champions.

That means as it stands Dundee would be contributing 5.63 per cent of the total costs.

Final financial figures are to be sent to clubs ahead of the vote.

When could VAR be introduced in Scottish football?​

A number of VAR trials have already taken place at under-age matches as the SFA prepare for the introduction.

Despite the work already being underway to prepare our officials for the system, VAR would be used for the first time during midway through the 2022-23 campaign.

It will be rolled out and used during Scottish domestic top flight games for the first time after December's World Cup finals in Qatar.
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Dont see any chance it’s going to pass unfortunately. Needs 75% support from The Championship and League1/2 and from what I can see they aren’t going to even have it, but given it’s going to cost them income it’s a dead duck. The tail wagging the dug, again

If the SPFL were competent they would be finding a sponsor to plaster their name all over it and subsidise some, most or all of the cost of it.

This has all the taste of another SPFL stitch up to put forward another unworkable proposal and then shrug “we tried”

Hopefully the Tim’s are inclined to push for it if they think they were shafted yesterday cause it’s just not happening unless they are 100% on board.
 
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Good question mate, I mean the decision makers at the SPFL are a dab hand at attracting sponsorship and lucrative commercial deals.

Oh…..

So true, I could do more for growing the game here than any of those 400k a year imposters. It's really shameful how insular Scottish football is.
 
This is why things never get done in scottish football , the clubs all vote on stuff , there should be one organisation that lays down the laws and runs the game and tells it how it is , yet you get teams like alloa ect getting a say on how things are run , too much self interest in scottish fitba
 
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Dont see any chance it’s going to pass unfortunately. Needs 75% support from The Championship and League1/2 and from what I can see they aren’t going to even have it, but given it’s going to cost them income it’s a dead duck. The tail wagging the dug, again

If the SPFL were competent they would be finding a sponsor to plaster their name all over it and subsidise some, most or all of the cost of it.

This has all the taste of another SPFL stitch up to put forward another unworkable proposal and then shrug “we tried”

Hopefully the Tim’s are inclined to push for it if they think they were shafted yesterday cause it’s just not happening unless they are 100% on board.
It benefits the Tim's in the long run not to have it this is why every team is getting a vote on it because the smaller clubs can't afford it & I believe its only the top flight that's to get VAR so why are all teams voting it's a cut up we have shouted the loudest for it so going with previous votes on anything we propose it will be voted down .
 
Specsavers?
Something light hearted like that could work, but it’s going to take a decent marketing head at the SPFL to have a few of these gimmicks thought out to go and tout them round the biggest companies in the respective industries. These companies arent likely to come up with something like this themselves you’ve got to take the idea out to them.
 
Scotshit football is obsessed with votes because the so called authorities are govern by the one club. And as we all know votes can and will always be rigged to satisfy that club. Other clubs who have not had the courage to stand by their own opinions have already passed their vote to their hateful and spiteful fans in 2012. And Dundee. We'll they are getting their rewards now. No money spinning friendly and no bale out of relegation. Our country's football is a corrupt,hate filled cabal run by low life scum with one clubs interest at heart.
The only way this vote will be passed is in the control of one club and it's crawling cohorts. It's that simple.
 
This is why things never get done in scottish football , the clubs all vote on stuff , there should be one organisation that lays down the laws and runs the game and tells it how it is , yet you get teams like alloa ect getting a say on how things are run , too much self interest in scottish fitba
It really needs something radical like this
 
Is this an SPFL decision? Why the %^*& are the SFA not making the decision end of… fucking pathetic
 
The vote will fail. Clubs won't agree unanimously to bring it in. That will park the bus for one more year....which is the intention of the vote.

Eventually it will be mandated in. We will wait till then.
 
But if it's the same referees in the VAR room, aren't they just marking their own homework?
It’s much harder to pretend you missed a blatant penalty or a red card when it’s your job to look at it from 5 different angles and then make a decision, especially when all your doing is sending the ultimate responsibility straight back to the referee on the video monitor.

Besides I could use the same argument with full time refs, it’ll just be the same useless cnts but on double the paycheque
 
why dont they implement it but get it sponsored?
Far too sensible a suggestion. If we had competent people running the game it may well have been an option. Sadly, we have Doncaster and co running the game and we all know how good they are gaining sponsorships.
 
We need professional referees. The standard in Scotland is abysmal.
We can't continue with Tims reffing us and them. It doesn't work.

No refs should be in charge of the team they support or indeed their biggest rivals.

Clancy, Connor, Mulvenny or what ever they are called. All at it.

VAR cuts out some of their shite hopefully but impartial refs required even if we need to bring in English or foreign ones.
 
The vote will fail. Clubs won't agree unanimously to bring it in. That will park the bus for one more year....which is the intention of the vote.

Eventually it will be mandated in. We will wait till then.
That's how I see this going too. A farce really.
 
I'm sure this will get passed, not to approve its installation would surely raise questions on both sides of the divide. The Tims, based on yesterday call Madden (MadHun) - which is genuinely insane, he gave 4 minutes of injury time on 15 minutes of ET, ffs.
 
Allowing all 42 clubs a vote is a farce

If it doesn’t get approved we all know why as the scum don’t want it and haven’t publicly called for it’s introduction so you know they don’t want it given the amount of times they benefit from not having it

That Maeda offside yesterday that Mulvanny didn’t give is a prime example of why it’s needed

Our officials are utter dross

VAR helps them get it right but given Mulvanny cheated yesterday in an attempt to help his team proves without a doubt why we desperately need it implemented
 
The old dinosaurs of Scottish football about to make a mockery of our game again. If it’s money they’re worried about Rangers should tell them we’ll deal with our own tv deal. We’re the big cat in this jungle and we’ll tell them when they eat
 
Tomorrow is put up or shut up time for that mob. No club in the history of British - if not world - football has done more to decry the referees of their national football association, even to the extent of causing a national refereeing strike. Tomorrow they will be given the opportunity to vote to introduce a system which will potentially make dodgy refereeing (including those of so called assistant referees) extremely difficult to get away with. We know to our cost that during the past 20 years (at least) they have been the beneficiaries of more bad refereeing decisions than any other Scottish club. Nobody with any connection to them should kid themselves that they don't know that as well. Their bluff is being called tomorrow.
 
Tomorrow is put up or shut up time for that mob. No club in the history of British - if not world - football has done more to decry the referees of their national football association, even to the extent of causing a national refereeing strike. Tomorrow they will be given the opportunity to vote to introduce a system which will potentially make dodgy refereeing (including those of so called assistant referees) extremely difficult to get away with. We know to our cost that during the past 20 years (at least) they have been the beneficiaries of more bad refereeing decisions than any other Scottish club. Nobody with any connection to them should kid themselves that they don't know that as well. Their bluff is being called tomorrow.
It won't be them that sink it. It will be the teams who will never ever ever need to worry about var as they'll never make the top division that will sink it. For no reason other than a warped sense of self importance.
 
Absolute carve up.

I've said since this start of this that it won't happen. The Tims don't want it and why would they when they. If they don't want it, it simply doesn't happen.

Look at the 5 subs. All clubs wanted it kept on but there was conveniently no vote held to keep it on and we reverted back to 3. Low and behold Celtic players running out of steam, they sign some guys who can only play 60 minutes and it's immediately brought in.
 


For anyone disputing that we need VAR with the officials in this country, that lot's best chance of scoring came from having a player 5 yards offside...
 
The sfa are the bosses not the spfl . They could mandate any top flight or cup game in Scotland needs to have it and it would happen . The arbitration process shows they are above the spfl. We don’t need a vote

My opinion it will come in around 2/3 years when it’s mandated
 
I’m all in favour of VAR. Who wouldn’t want a means of more accurate officiating?

However, it won’t address the problem of Celtic’s lower fouls-to-cards ratio than other clubs. That ought to be the subject of a separate investigation.
Actually, it’s a higher ratio, but you knew what I meant…
 
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