HarryBosch
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That should do it.Or a stale, old, Irish diaspora bigot, who can't spot a deliberate handball on a video screen.
That should do it.Or a stale, old, Irish diaspora bigot, who can't spot a deliberate handball on a video screen.
Yet we still have Rangers fans who insist it's not cheating or bias.and it's " honest mistakes" made by the same officials week in week out coincidentally 90% of the same mistakes working against us.. Invariably in a game ,particularly a physical encounter, a blue jersey will get booked first , regardless of what's gone on before.with the opposing side. It appears any other team playing against us are allowed to foul 5/6 times before they've even spoken to, whereas our players are in the book in half that time. This has been the case for the whole of the time I've followed our club.over 40 years.Sylla for Dundee got away with murder last night.
If that’s one of our players, say Jack or Lundstram they are booked immediately.
We are 100% reffed differently.
They are not full time and it is therefore not an individual refs priority.
Well what a load of utter pish that is.Will never change. The refs dept is a closed shop and criticism is forbidden by the highest order. Ala 1984 Ingsoc style.
It is a hard job but not only the pundits come away with rubbish and they don't know the Laws of the game. Rogers, Kettlewell, Naismith and whoever manages Aberdeen this week.I am not on defending refs but it is a hard job and you make some good points but I don't think it is helped when pundits don't know the rules so throw a hissy fit when things happen that they don't think should happen and are refs not allowed to make mistakes? they are human players make mistakes all the time.
Its probably more about the SFA not wanting an outsider to have a look under the bonnet.It shows you the level of thinking when the solution to failure is appointing someone who has been at the core of it.
Clearly they think appointing the referee that's had most complaints about him as the head is the way forward.Why is the standard so bad, we have out and out cheats;
Clancy, Collum, Robertson and Walsh.
Beaton and McLean who are scared to give us a decision.
Alan Muir is a balloon, Greg Aitken a bumbling buffoon.
Upcoming referees Dickinson, McDermid shouldn’t even be doing schoolboy games, they have no authority on the pitch and have to have VAR as a comfort blanket, both are absolutely clueless.
In the main they are all effectively letting VAR do their job, and not a very good one at that. I’ve hardly watched a game this season that hasn’t been a comedy of errors some more costly than others. In every other walk of life if you aren’t capable of doing your job you get moved on. Sad part in Scotland I see nothing to suggest we are trying to improve.
Sorry but that's nonsense. Thats like saying why should a footballer be full time?Why would a referee need to be full time ?
Players yes because they work on tactics, set pieces etc.
Once you know the rules you know the rules, all you have to do is keep yourself physically fit which is perfectly achievable whilst holding down a full time job. Junior players manage it perfectly well.
Referees get paid handsomely for what they do, if they are not providing an adequate service they should be demoted.
Awe cheeky basa. True though.Well what a load of utter pish that is.
Not every referee is a cheat mate. I'd say only 2 are.
The rest are feart to do their jobs. Being part time doesn't prevent you from booking a player whose been going around kicking everything in the opposing jersey, or seeing with your own eyes that a player had dived after multiple replays at the VAR screen. Or even awarding stonewall penalties that you've seen but are afraid to give due to a potential media backlash.
As in all professions, you can't fix a problem until you admit there is a problem.Why is the standard so bad, we have out and out cheats;
Clancy, Collum, Robertson and Walsh.
Beaton and McLean who are scared to give us a decision.
Alan Muir is a balloon, Greg Aitken a bumbling buffoon.
Upcoming referees Dickinson, McDermid shouldn’t even be doing schoolboy games, they have no authority on the pitch and have to have VAR as a comfort blanket, both are absolutely clueless.
In the main they are all effectively letting VAR do their job, and not a very good one at that. I’ve hardly watched a game this season that hasn’t been a comedy of errors some more costly than others. In every other walk of life if you aren’t capable of doing your job you get moved on. Sad part in Scotland I see nothing to suggest we are trying to improve.
This 100% bang on the nail.Its probably more about the SFA not wanting an outsider to have a look under the bonnet.
Imagine the PGMOL/English guy got the job and then came out and told us just how bad things were. What do you think the reaction would be from our media?
I don't think that's the case mate. Or at least I didn't.If anything, VAR has just made refs more scared to make decisions.
I don't think that's the case mate. Or at least I didn't.
The penalty to Rangers narrative has probably been more successful than we realise.
What will be telling will be how things go next season.
Even our penalty stats that only 3 had been given in real time and the rest by VAR is very concerning.The relentless media pressure on refs to give a penalty against us was embarrassing, mate, resulting in both the laughable Killie awards, both at Rugby Park and Ibrox. They were scared not to award them to Killie.
We should have had 2 last night. The ref shat it again.
Even our penalty stats that only 3 had been given in real time and the rest by VAR is very concerning.
If you scrap VAR then we don't get those decisions. I think the SFA do need to hire more permanent VAR officials and stop the rotation with on field officials. But given today's news I don't know if I'd trust them.
We’ve got an entire crop of officials that over the last 12 years have been moulded into thinking that only the mentally challengeds must be successful, and anything else will have repercussions.
Happy mentally challengeds = happy life for officials and Scottish football.
How we break that at this stage I don’t know.
I am not on defending refs but it is a hard job and you make some good points but I don't think it is helped when pundits don't know the rules so throw a hissy fit when things happen that they don't think should happen and are refs not allowed to make mistakes? they are human players make mistakes all the time.
I disagree with you. You are defending the refs.
Refereeing shouldn't be a hard job if you apply the rules fairly and squarely.
When you are prepared to waive the rules, because you are a 'shettleston', or a scared so called mythical 'Mason', then you are a cheat plain and simple.
Just look at Cylla last night. There is now way he is getting that leeway in a Rangers top.
So is that the ref being constantly human? Or is there something more at work?
Sylla kicked anything in a blue shirt last night, at least 4 poor challenges on Cantwell alone.
Even his team-mates were telling him to cool it, and not the ref.
Agreed. But that's not down to human error as you and I know.
When refereeing is just a well-paid 2nd job, there’s no necessity to improve and encourage the authorities to do likewise.
I wonder if any Scottish referee is disappointed not to be going to the Euros, for example.
The sad fact is that referees are fine as long as one club is winning. Referees seem to agree.
It was embarrassing watching the ref look the other way after another shocker of a foul on Cantwell.
It might not make any difference, but we need to put preassure on these 'human' cheating rats from day one next season.
Absolutely one of the lads on my RSC has a relative who works for UEFA and was with the SFA. He was saying last night that from top to bottom it’s nearly all t*ms. So we have zero chance unless we use legislation on health and safety and box clever.Sadly they have Scottish football sewn up. Their placemen are everywhere. I'm not sure where we go from here.
I genuinely wonder what Lundstram thought when he watched the endless fouling last night from Sylla, and the ref's complete disinterest.
You dont seem to have worked out that they are cheating, that they are biased officials they dont care about integrity.Sorry but that's nonsense. Thats like saying why should a footballer be full time?
Rules change all the time, VAR communication needs improved, and all incidents that were controversial over the weekend should be reviewed to enhance consistency and continuity. That can't be done when on a Monday morning every single Scottish official is going back to the law office, school, GP surgery etc.
Their attention during the week is elsewhere, rather on reflecting and reviewing their own performance on an ongoing basis, like any other job basically.
Professionalism in any job improves standards exponentially.
Theres a reason why they are full time in England and other leagues.
The difference in refereeing standards is there for all to see.
Therefore we have to call it out. Every time.
VAR should have recommended he disallow the goal and go back and give the free kick to Kilmarnock - is that not how it works?Derek Mcinnes saying that Don Robertson admitted and apologised at half time that he should’ve stopped the game because he knew there was head knock before the opening goal for Celtic.
Nice to see they are comfortable enough to openly admit that they are ignoring obvious decisions if it doesn’t suit Celtic.
I've been repeatedly shot down on here for criticising our passivity to the clear cheating by refs.
Unless we have a clear strategy to finally address, then neutralise the ref issue, then we'll face the same end to next season as tonight.
The game is actually fucked if that ref doesn't loose his job over that, it's blatant cheating and he's not even hiding it now.Derek Mcinnes saying that Don Robertson admitted and apologised at half time that he should’ve stopped the game because he knew there was head knock before the opening goal for Celtic.
Nice to see they are comfortable enough to openly admit that they are ignoring obvious decisions if it doesn’t suit Celtic.
Not by me you won't regards the refs.
I am the converted and have been saying the same for years. Decades actually.
It would appear we need someone of our ilk to win the double, triple, quadruple rollover in the Euros to come into the club and tell the board we'll put fifty mill into the club, but only on my terms.
And sticking up for us is part of the deal.