wsb&warmy
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Exactly my thoughts.Depends on the time of year I was asked, as of now, No.
Exactly my thoughts.Depends on the time of year I was asked, as of now, No.
Coward, you said hard to argue with, now it's down to 'at least a possibility' hyperbolic, cowardice nonsense.Your sound like a gullible Bawbag tbh, they’ve won 12 out of the last 13 so I’d say it’s at least a possibility tough guy
Not accusing you of that, sorry if it came across that way.I don't blame the manager for the recent collapse, don't want to start player bashing but it's on them.
It is hard to argue with, circumstances or not it’s where we are financially you keep the head buried though things will change soon just because we’re Rangers ehCoward, you said hard to argue with, now it's down to 'at least a possibility' hyperbolic, cowardice nonsense.
Any mitigating circumstances that allowed them 12/13 tough guy?
This is the thing these days, getting into the cl to be whipping boys is what it comes to. Will never win it, but get some money in the bank. This is what matters to teams in the big 5 too. 2nd,3rd or 4th, keeps the money men happy. A trophy means nothing to some people in football now, but everything to the fans. A real disconnect, which is a shame.The league must always be the priority, and it would be a kick in the balls to have been in a position to win it and let is slip… but folk talking about a Cup double representing failure are fucking bonkers IMO.
This is true, but looking at the big picture from the state we were in when Clement took over, a cup double (and last 16 in Europe) has to be viewed as success. And that's not settling for second best. It's just being realistic taking everything into consideration. Worst case scenario, we've taken the league to the second last game. Yes, we got into a position where we could / should have done better, but the bottom line is, the squad isn't good enough. I think we all know that. I could count on one hand the players I really don't want to lose for next season. Obviously we'll need to retain a lot more than that, but the vast majority are dispensible. We've made progress under Clement. Anyone who says we haven't is effectively saying Beale could have done the same job if we'd kept him. I think not. The manager has had a good long look at the squad, the league, the officials, the media and the fans. I fully expect he and a revamped squad will be much better prepared for next season. That said, I've still far from given up on a treble this season. I think we can win on Saturday, then it's definitely game on.If Clement had came in, dropped a few points whilst he got to know the players and that lot moved ahead in the league, a cup double would have been a successful season, imo.
But the way the seasons gone, it'll be a pretty deflating cup final if that lot win the league.
That's the result of so many years of failure. We have a generation of people who are actually conditioned to it. Said it many a time, we are still in a period of recovery.For Clement it’s an acceptable return given what he inherited. But for this squad of players and the club in general? No chance. Not surprised to see so many content with it though.
Wasn't always like that and we have plenty experience of it. Yes the league comes first, but one of my favourite memories was winning the Scottish Cup in 73, when big forsyth scored with that amazing 40 cm's shot to win it.Dress it up any way you like, any season where Rangers don't finish the season as champions cannot be considered a success.
Come on mate, there's posters on here who had not just 9 in a row, but them with a European cup. Nobody gets conditioned to that, not now, not everThat's the result of so many years of failure. We have a generation of people who are actually conditioned to it. Said it many a time, we are still in a period of recovery.
Interesting attitude. Why bother playing at parkhead.After we handed them the league title, with that defeat at County and the draw at Scumdee.
Would it hell be...
We were in a great position to win the league until about a month ago. No clue how any fan can deem a couple double to be a success given the way we’ve bottled the title.That's the result of so many years of failure. We have a generation of people who are actually conditioned to it. Said it many a time, we are still in a period of recovery.
Aye just the 11 of the last 12 titles, 5 trebles in that time and about 60 million in the bank.The millions in the bank, the numerous titles and cups they’ve racked up……yeah nice and level
OP should clarify their question.
If you are asking if it is successful from where we were after the Beale shitshow then yes.
If you are asking in general if a season in which we come second in a two-horse race is successful then never.
But Beale did all that damage and Clement then got us into a position to be in our hands and we let it slip, we cannot ignore that fact and say “oh well, because we were far behind I can excuse all the poor stuff that came after that led to us giving the league away”.
It will be a failure in my book.
Mistake number 1) Listening to anyone on Twitter.It doesn’t really matter if your interested in the finances or not it’s a unpalatable fact, I seen a tim on Twitter say if they win the league this year there shouldn’t even be a title race for the next 10 years…..hard to argue against it
The money is higher this season. Add on two extra games, extra tv money, extra prize money, extra ticket money.How much is that exactly? Genuine question because I keep seeing people mention it on here as though it's a game changer and we have seen Celtic collect the cash from CL for the vast majority of the last decade, still only 3 points ahead due to our own lack of fight in games against dross.
How much will the league champions earn from qualifying for the CL? More than the runners up if they also qualify?
Do they get £50m or much less and that £50m is made up of potential gate receipts, win bonuses and progression rewards?
Unfortunately, that's what both of us do.We are all about winning trophies.
Its what we do.
Hardly over-analysing, simply trying to establish what is being asked.No need to over analyse the question, just answer how you interpret it.
If Clement had came in, dropped a few points whilst he got to know the players and that lot moved ahead in the league, a cup double would have been a successful season, imo.
But the way the seasons gone, it'll be a pretty deflating cup final if that lot win the league.
Hardly over-analysing, simply trying to establish what is being asked.
It massively influences how most would answer and the wording could easily clarify.
We had everything set to win this league. Granted, it would have been a miracle over the season, but to throw it away from where we were after the Hearts/Killie games is very, very hard to take.Assuming we don't do the business in the league, would a cup double make up for it?
If you'd given me the choice of the league or a cup double at the start of the season I would have chosen the league every day of the week. The thought of losing another league title to them is absolutely devastating.
As it is, the damage Michael Beale caused has led to us where we are and if Clement can produce a Cup double from that I'd be relatively happy.
The league was done in October apparently.After we handed them the league title, with that defeat at County and the draw at Scumdee.
Would it hell be...