Artful Dodger
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But he was blowing out his arse in more than one game last season.But?!
But he was blowing out his arse in more than one game last season.But?!
That’s the point I’m making, our fitness was first class last season, and hopefully that’s the standard that we keep.ffs, we have seen about 10minutes of clips. How was our fitness at the end of last season? Its the same backroom staff we have.
I’m delighted they have got on pitch time to implement their playing style.Arno Phillips is a fitness coach of serious pedigree; I doubt we have anything to worry about there. The proper physical stuff will no doubt begin when the rest of the team join up in Portugal.
It's great guys like Gio, Vos and Maakay are getting a bit of time to work with the players on technical play. As Scotty says, there wasn't much of an opportunity to do so last season because of the schedule.
I wonder why criteria he’s using, cos I find that a bit hard to believe. Scotty seemed to tire as the game wore on several times this season.
Sebo has obscene fitness levels these daysBeing fit doesn’t equate to being able to move sharply enough around the pitch.
Morelos surelyYou could guarantee Tavernier and Goldson in the top 5, if Arfield is one that leaves two more slots……I’d go with Aribo and Bassey. Can’t think of any others who would be near it
That’s the point I’m making, our fitness was first class last season, and hopefully that’s the standard that we keep.
I think it probably will be, but from the clips and info I’ve seen, limited yes, the early approach seems different from the previous 4 seasons.
Saying that he's still in the top 5 fittest players at the club, when it comes to the pre season endurance work.
No real suprise to many of us I'm sure, but maybe a wee wake up call for the "his legs have gone" mob.
Yes a slight concern that our “almost unbelievable fitness” won’t be of the same level. Hardly a panic mode post!That wasnt though, you had a *slight concern* when there was no need to be negative in anyway.
Not always, no.Being fit doesn’t equate to being able to move sharply enough around the pitch.
Yip. Nae nipping out the group for a fag on the cross country slots these days.He'll be basing it on the data they get back, after their sessions mate.
Everything they do now is all analysed exactly the way top track athletes monitor their training.
Aerobic and anareobic thresholds, along with Vo2 Max levels will be calculated and sessions will planned accordingly.
The HR monitors they wear supply all the required info.
Changed days.
Boys humped now the doctor has leftI enjoyed the interview and format tbh. Something a bit different from Nick and the team.
Was a lot better from them. More relaxed. Hope they do more in this style.I enjoyed the interview and format tbh. Something a bit different from Nick and the team.
Yes a slight concern that our “almost unbelievable fitness” won’t be of the same level. Hardly a panic mode post!
I don’t think I was being particularly negative, im not really a negative guy.
Our fitness last year was the main reason we got to Seville and won the Scottish cup.
If it was any lower then I doubt we’d of done anything, given the position we found ourself at the beginning of April domestically.
It was world class elite level.
Let’s hope it stays that way with a different Boss who may focus on other areas.
It absolutely has to be Tav.Impressive.
Tav/Goldson number 1?
Bassey maybe?
I think it’s hard to build fitness mid season, but maybe something did change in the winter break with regards to this.Without basing this on anything, other than my own eyes, I thought our fitness levels went up a couple of levels under Gio.
I thought we looked sluggish in the first part of the season.
I agree I can't recall his fitness standing out compared to others that have been mentioned. Did he put himself in a group with Davis and McGregor and a post op Alfredo ?Its Scotty Arfields world and we are just living in it
Our passing also improved as well I thought, not so much work without the ball as we kept It better.Without basing this on anything, other than my own eyes, I thought our fitness levels went up a couple of levels under Gio.
I thought we looked sluggish in the first part of the season.
Our passing also improved as well I thought, not so much work without the ball as we kept I better.
True, Gerrard's team was great the season before when we won the league but for some reason at the start of the season at times they looked like they had never played together and were sloppy in possession plus not prepared to do the work off the ballYep, GvB basically moulded us into a far better all round team.
The Rangers side that performed so well throughout April and May, was unrecognisable to the one that stuttered in the league and Europe, in the first few months under Gerrard.
I think it was Gerrard’s first sessions in Spain when Morelos was blowing out his arse being lapped by Docherty, Tav and Jack.Jack use to lead the way.
Love watching the runs round the pitch.
McGregor walks.
Exactly what I was going to say but there were caveats to that as to why imo as generally we've by far the fittest team in Scotland since Gerrard arrived. We were 100% really sluggish and off the pace in both the league and qualifiers last season. Typified by Lundstram and Barisic in particular I thought, both of whom were noticeably fitter 2nd half of the season.Without basing this on anything, other than my own eyes, I thought our fitness levels went up a couple of levels under Gio.
I thought we looked sluggish in the first part of the season.
Legs have gone often can refer to agility and speed rather than just endurance. Fair play to him being in top condition thoughSaying that he's still in the top 5 fittest players at the club, when it comes to the pre season endurance work.
No real suprise to many of us I'm sure, but maybe a wee wake up call for the "his legs have gone" mob.
Legs have gone often can refer to agility and speed rather than just endurance. Fair play to him being in top condition though
Tbf, even at Falkirk and Burnley in the EPL, he's never had great pace.
He's the first to admit it.
He's not the quickest let's be honest been a great signing overall though
He has but when we were spilling points all over the place he was one of the senior players you’d look to for getting us going who ultimately didn’t give us much. Came into a little bit of form near the end but our league campaign was goosed by that point.He's not the quickest let's be honest been a great signing overall though
Lundstram must be up there. Extra time against Braga, scum, Red Bull, Frankfurt and Hearts.You could guarantee Tavernier and Goldson in the top 5, if Arfield is one that leaves two more slots……I’d go with Aribo and Bassey. Can’t think of any others who would be near it
Aerobic and anareobic thresholds, along with Vo2 Max levels will be calculated and sessions will planned accordingly.
The HR monitors they wear supply all the required info.
Changed days.
Arfield doing well in a bleep test doesn't mean he doesnt struggle in a 90 minute game of high intensity football.
The majority of people that weren't happy he signed a new deal weren't upset because of his fitness.. it was because he didn't earn one through performances.
The key is how many high intensity runs you can perform and at what speed.
In football you obviously don’t just continuously run.
So people who lead the pack in the long distance, continuous running mean very little ultimately.
To be honest I don't really care what he does in training or how good his recovery time is.He's not referring to bleep tests or long aerobic runs though.
They are part of the training plan, but only to build the fitness base needed, so your body handles the faster, anareobic sessions better.
He's talking about football fitness, which is about performing high intensity sessions, with minimal recovery between the sessions.
That's what he's good at and was referring to in his interview.
That might be because how he looks to the armchair sports scientists is different from how the professionals interpret the scientifically gathered information.Wouldn't say the legs have gone but there were times last season where he looked absolutely shot yet continued to start matches.
No, that’d be as much to do with the brain though.Being fit doesn’t equate to being able to move sharply enough around the pitch.
Means little Robbie Crawford used to lap the rest of the squad 3 times over and Greg Docherty twice!!!
Do you reckon he actually plays like he’s fecked though?He certainly always looks fūcked on the pitch.
Famously, infamously maybe, Jock Wallace’s training techniques had players spewing during sessions at Gullane.I have a slight concern and really hope that it doesn’t come to be this way.
Our fitness was developed under Gerrard, with double running sessions until the players were spewing in some cases. The first few training videos of the summer were always runs and beep tests. Hardly any ball work for the first week.
Arfields comments that Gio was working on shape and receiving the ball, and a more European approach, makes me worried that we won’t drill that fitness to the same level. Which will no doubt result in a decrease in levels. I’m not saying it will fall off a cliff, but our almost unbelievable fitness was a real advantage that I hope we don’t take as a given.
Hopefully I’m reading too much into it.
GVB ran him into the ground for some reason after break.But he was blowing out his arse in more than one game last season.
Do you reckon he actually plays like he’s fecked though?