MoodyBlue1872
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I'm taking my boots along on Sunday just in case i'm needed !!
Murty and the players should consider themselves very fortunate that it was Miller and Wallace, (if that actually is the case) that were tearing in to them, and not some of the punters that have spent fortunes following this apology of a Rangers team up and down the country.
Murty shamed us on Sunday with the way he set the team up and the players who took to the park disgraced us.
Wallace and Miller are probably the least culpable people involved in this shambles.
At least they actually care.
Thats exactly what i said about Murty on Sunday night!I will tell you what I've been told and this comes from a former player of recent times. Wallace words to Murty were along the lines of " You would be better sitting in that end with the rest of your f#cking family " . As I said just what I've been told and I won't be naming the player but he is Rangers through and through
That’s a valid point. And it’s not as if either played, so we can’t say there’s hypocrisy.Murty and the players should consider themselves very fortunate that it was Miller and Wallace, (if that actually is the case) that were tearing in to them, and not some of the punters that have spent fortunes following this apology of a Rangers team up and down the country.
Murty shamed us on Sunday with the way he set the team up and the players who took to the park disgraced us.
Wallace and Miller are probably the least culpable people involved in this shambles.
At least they actually care.
Robertson does what he is told by the board. He doesn’t make the decisionsRobertson isn't fit for purpose.
Is that all thats bothering you ? that someone has copied a pretty major story for everyone to read ?
That comes from rangers fan themselves not just me, don't read don't buy, as for the team, murty was only here till the end of the season, if he done well he would have got the job, he hasn't and now won't get the job, as for the Information we've been here before with joey Barton, we all know rangers on the pitch are a shambles no thanks to those higher up not making a proper decision and bringing in a real manager that knows how to play footballIs that all thats bothering you ? that someone has copied a pretty major story for everyone to read ?
If they cared then why are they selling their stories to the rags when it disrupts things further? Why was the team leaked? I just don’t buy that
The club have not really handled anything well over the last couple of yearsThe club clearly kicked off this whole episode with leaks aimed at damaging Miller and Wallace.
These two are now intent on getting across their side of the story. Who can blame them?
This is one instance where dignified silence would certainly have been the preferred option.
Supporters will be even more worried than before about team spirit.
The way the situation has been handled reflects very badly on the club.
It’s the Record, both suspended players have close relationships with Record shite hawks, don’t let them lead you by the nose,
#changetherecord
If they cared then why are they selling their stories to the rags when it disrupts things further? Why was the team leaked? I just don’t buy that
Exactly.Talking in hypotheticals here, what if the other players actually feel they were in the right and are being mistreated? Have the to be expected to just go along with the current version of events?
I’m not saying I believe anything from the Record - but if the squad backs up these two it doesn’t necessarily mean the squad are all scumbags, they could simply be telling the truth.
Aye, Kenny Miller cares that much about Rangers he turned us down to play for Celtic.
Oh and he leaks stories to the fucking daily record
Well this episode is yet again a complete shambles and being played out in a way that this Rangers Board have failed to learn from.
It’s not as if we haven’t been here before with this board.
See if there are players there who want to follow them out the door by virtue of their "loyalty" to their pals, let them.
There is not one single imposter in that squad who should be dictating to the club the terms of what happens next.
This is Rangers, they should be thanking every deity there is that they have landed as lucky to ever pull on such a famous jersey given the level of their collective abilities.
If they cared then why are they selling their stories to the rags when it disrupts things further? Why was the team leaked? I just don’t buy that
....by mouthing to The Record?This is an official investigation. Shouldn’t the players defend them if they feel they’ve been unjustly suspended?
They're equally guilty - see the slow motion rollout of the story over Sunday / Monday using the club's favourite methods. Same with the kit deal , the board ( not directly imho) are happy for info to be passed to the likes of 4Lads / prominent social media / admins on FF to become privy to info they'll pass along.
Im not even defending Miller or Wallace , just both have reps as model professionals and if my name was ( as KM and LW believe) being slandered and my job put in jeopardy I think i would use the media to defend myself too.
If they've undermined the manager deliberately then they need to go as they can never be trusted again , but all my initial point was is that both the board and the players need to shoulder the blame.
The board are trying to recruit a manager so they must be seen to be a board that back the manager.
Even if that manager is a little weasel who 99.9% of folk cannot wait to see the back of.
They tried that approach mind and we lost a player we’d spent months persuading to come to the club and ended up with that cabbage Halliday cutting about thinking he was Beckenbauer!!I’m fully behind the players on this! For the manager not to address that performance directly after the game on Sunday and give everyone a chance to have a say is negligent.
A good manager would have let them all have a good blow out listen and then address it with his views.
He’s weak for me
From the Record..
Mounting unrest in Rangers squad as team mates rally to clear names of Kenny Miller and Lee Wallace
More details have emerged of the highly-charged scenes which led to the duo being suspended by Rangers.
And a significant number of players are now willing to give testimony, adamant that there was no ‘bust-up’ between manager Murty and the two accused.
- Kenny Miller and Lee Wallace (Image: SNS)
Bemused Rangers players believe fall guys Lee Wallace and Kenny Miller have been hung out to dry by their own club.
Record Sport has learned there is a mounting feeling of unrest inside the Auchenhowie camp over the decision to suspend the duo following Sunday’s Scottish Cup capitulation against Celtic.
And a large group of Graeme Murty’s players are already itching for the chance to clear the names of Wallace and Miller as part of an internal disciplinary probe into the stormy aftermath of the Hampden thrashing.
It’s understood there were around 30 eyewitnesses to the highly-charged scenes which broke out inside the Rangers dressing room following the 4-0 defeat.
Inside Rangers meltdown as details emerge of vitriolic attack that led to Lee Wallace and Kenny Miller suspensions
Club sources insisted skipper Wallace and talisman Miller launched into a foul-mouthed tirade aimed at the manager moments after the final whistle.
But this has come as a shock to many of those who were present at the time – and it has infuriated some of Murty’s squad who believe the duo are the victims of internal politics.
Record Sport revealed on Monday how trouble kicked off after two players, Greg Docherty and Alfredo Morelos, clashed on their way off the field and had to be kept apart inside the Hampden tunnel.
Rangers duo Kenny Miller and Lee Wallace have been suspended by the club (Image: SNS)
Kenny Miller is from a Rangers era where problems got sorted in the dressing room - Derek Ferguson on Ibrox drama
This row spilled into the dressing room where a number of other players became involved in what have been described to Record Sport as “chaotic scenes”.
Murty, it’s understood, was not present during most of the heated post-mortem. But, in his role as captain, Wallace pulled rank and attempted to get the situation under control by expressing his disgust at the standard of the performance.
Wallace’s outburst restored some calm before Miller backed his skipper with some stinging home truths.
But while club sources claim the pair overstepped the mark by aiming their blast at Murty in a venomous personal attack, this version of events has left many of their team-mates completely baffled.
Graeme Murty (Image: Reuters)
6 Rangers bust-ups that have rocked Ibrox over past 18 months
It’s understood Wallace and Miller were given no verbal reason for their suspensions after being banished from the stadium and training ground by managing director Stewart Robertson during a brief meeting on Tuesday.
It’s also been reported that Miller stressed to Robertson he was not involved in any bust-up with the manager and both players have laid out their version of events to the players’ union.
Robertson did, however, confirm the reasons behind the decision will be sent to them in writing before the end of the week.
Even if Wallace and Miller are backed to the hilt by their Ibrox team-mates it looks almost certain that both have played their last games for the club.
Lack of quote but Jackson clearly gets this info from a player.
Yes and I hope you'll note my other posts on that.What manager worth their salt is going to come and work with these amateurs? We are a dysfunctional mess.
Sorry but I do not buy that at all.It goes much deeper than that, Murty had already gone to the board previously to say that Miller a few others were deliberately undermining him, leading to players not carrying out instructions. Murty is weak and not fit for purpose and should have been able to deal with the situation if he had anything about him but the players have acted despicably and it is not the first manager it has happened to
Yes and I hope you'll note my other posts on that.
Some of the names people are sneering at, they'll be longing for them in a few weeks time.
I'm predicting Billy Davies, he's about as desperate as we are.
....by mouthing to The Record?
What manager worth their salt is going to come and work with these amateurs? We are a dysfunctional mess.
It was the club who initially leaked the story to the press. They should have kept it all indoors like any normal football club would have done.