Standards1972
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He's Sergio Aguero's wee brother.
Michel Preud'homme
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Dorrans
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If my aunty had baws....
McInnes has done nothing of note in the game. I'm baffled by the esteem he is held in by many bears.
Our next manager has to stop them reaching 10. McInnes might but there is nothing in his CV to suggest that that is a likely outcome. We need a proven winner not another experiment.
Facing 11 teams and knocking out 7 sounds good on the face of it, but then you realise it's literally impossible to have any more ties if you don't knock them out so the games:teams knocked out ratio is always going to be impressive
Basically 11 - 7 = 4. I.e. 4 years of trying to qualify.
Let's be honest, some amount of dross manage to qualify for the EL each year. Never even getting to the final round of qualifying in 4 attempts, even with Aberdeen, is pretty poor.
Superrangers
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Who can we afford that guarantees this and where would the required budget come from?
Superrangers
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Given our effort this season, I would say that, given their resources, they have done fairly well.Facing 11 teams and knocking out 7 sounds good on the face of it, but then you realise it's literally impossible to have any more ties if you don't knock them out so the games:teams knocked out ratio is always going to be impressive
Basically 11 - 7 = 4. I.e. 4 years of trying to qualify.
Let's be honest, some amount of dross manage to qualify for the EL each year. Never even getting to the final round of qualifying in 4 attempts, even with Aberdeen, is pretty poor.
Just because we had our worst ever result doesn't mean we should applaud others who are slightly less shite.
CaptainCourageous
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Do you reckon the likes of a de Boer would stop 10?
Superrangers
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You have to consider the resources of Aberdeen. They are a small-time club with small-time resources.
So are Zlin, Sheriff, Apollon, Rijeka, Astana, Skenderbeu,Ludogorets etc and they still manage to qualify.
Superrangers
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Some of those will have bigger budgets than the sheep. Astana are owned by the country’s sovereign wealth fund FFS.
Dorrans
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Nobody can guarantee it, but in my opinion a manager with a track record of winning titles seems more likely to succeed than McInnes.
If you are suggesting you favour McInnes because he will be happy with a low budget then that's another reason I don't want him. Whoever comes in needs to push the board to do everything possible to increase revenues and/or find additional investors. If we don't keep trying to close the financial gulf then the success of an Aberdeen FC is about what we can aspire to.
stu4
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Naismith
Superrangers
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I am not happy with a low budget. I am merely saying that a proven multi-title winning Manager is likely to not only demand wages beyond our budget but a transfer kitty greater than what we can afford also.
I am merely saying McInnes has regularly done well despite operating within a tight budget and one much below what he would have at Ibrox. He tends to get good value for his budget.
We're owned by several multi-millionaires, their team is still full of random Kazakhs. Come on mate, if you think those clubs are bigger than Aberdeen then I think it's best we leave it there. Zlin's ground holds 6k ffs.
Superrangers
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Aberdeen’s average attendance.
The Kazakh’s have way more cash then the sheep. I’d say some of the others might also? Not gonna search through. You’re probably right with some
of them. Anyway we’ll leave it there.
http://futbolgrad.com/fc-astana-reaching-for-the-stars-in-kazakhstan/
SDF
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Aberdeen thumped Rijeka 5-2 under McInnes.
Dorrans
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I can see where you are coming from and can understand your point of view. That said, if MPH is putting himself forward we should at least find out whether or not we can meet his budget/salary aspirations. Also disagree with your perspective on McInnes. for me he has simply done what he should have done with the sheep. No more no less. Personal choices bro..
Tamforsyth
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I don't see a winners mentality with McInnes
rangersno.1
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I think I’ll cry if mcinnes get the gig for the compo we’ll need to stump up plus the yearly salary we can do so much better than him.
We need to show some ambition.
We need to show some ambition.
Rothbard
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So kind of like the “Guus Who?” headline back then?
Insular Scottish football fans, media and their backward ways is nothing new.
and they dont even have proper training facilities.
permatan
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Knows what it means to play for Rangers
Knows Scottish football
57% win rate with a club that has no money or stature
Currently 1 point off the Mhanks after 11 games
Going for anyone else would be the experiment in my eyes. Le Guen, Warburton and Caixinha vs McLeish, Smith and Murty. We've seen what happens when we give the job to these types of people. This is Scottish football and we need someone who knows how to win in Scotland.
scooter70
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archimedes
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You could just as easily say Advocaat and Souness vs McCoist and Greig.
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IMO.
Neither the ITK posters or the press know anything on this one.
The club will go through a proper process and are not even at short list stage yet never mind having a preferred candidate.
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Posted in another thread ....... Liked by DocStone as well, Just to put the cat among the pigeons
I'm honestly not bothered who the new Maanger is, He'll get my support and we'll take it from there
StephenHawkinsfitbawboots
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I hadn’t heard of the guy until yesterday
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IMO.
Neither the ITK posters or the press know anything on this one.
The club will go through a proper process and are not even at short list stage yet never mind having a preferred candidate.
boracay ranger, Today at 3:18 PMReport
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Posted in another thread ....... Liked by DocStone as well, Just to put the cat among the pigeons
I'm honestly not bothered who the new Maanger is, He'll get my support and we'll take it from there
Wait the guy has 5 messages ? but doc stone did say he wasnt our main target but then others say it will be done by Wednesday.
arghhhh
bluelugosi
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Is a foreign manager more of a risk - who knows - not sure anyone knows who will be next?
Tagsbear
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Based on what?
Tamforsyth
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Based on the fact that he has never troubled Celtic in any way.
He has nothing special about him in my opinion.
Tagsbear
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When was the last trophy they won previous to that?
They have been in quite a few finals too,beaten twice by Celtic last season isn't really shameful, is it?
He may or may not be good for us, but expecting him to do better than making the Sheep, comfortably, the second best team whilst we were away (and last season when we were there) seems a bit unfair.
Tagsbear
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Celtic have a budget about 10 times what he has to work with, maybe more,did you expect the Sheep to win the league?
permatan
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Greig managed in the 70s, Souness the 80s, Advocaat the 90s.... The managers I cited have all managed in recent recents and are more representative of Scottish football today.
Right now what we need is someone who can steady the ship and make us hard to beat.
The Great One
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Aberdeen have beat us once in 26 years at Ibrox
Aberdeen can't win the league...you get that eh???????????
No T in Mikhailichenko
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Has held talks with Dave King after turning down Mechelen.
Tamforsyth
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He won't have the same budget as Celtic with us. He will be expected to win the league with us.
We should invest in a top drawer manager . Who that might be l don't know.
McInnes has never managed a team the size of Rangers . That is a risk in itself.
What happens if he fails what next?
Tagsbear
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Its much the same risk with any manager, though.
I doubt we'd get any manager in who's managed a club Rangers size.
He'll have a much larger budget at Rangers than he had at Aberdeen, I'd imagine he'd have spent the money made available to Caixinha a bit more wisely in the summer.
Tamforsyth
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Yes l do so what is it you see in him to make the step up?
He has never won a league anywhere. What has he done outside Aberdeen. I am not knocking him on a personal level.
The Rangers job is not going to be easy.
Nobody will, not for a few seasons and without financial backing from the board. Wake up.
The Great One
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He's never managed a team that could win the top league
Tamforsyth
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After sitting watching our home games this season l don't need to wake up. If we are appointing a manager who is happy to be second then mabye he might not be the right choice
Tamforsyth
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I guess that is my point
If we do end up with him then l will be 100% behind him.
The Great One
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We all will bud...Just like we did with that last fraud..
McInnes is a million times better than Pedro
But we're not a manager away from winning the league. Right now not one player would make the tims first eleven. Finishing second this season would be excellent.
Tamforsyth
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As Souness said Celtic have shown in Europe that they are not as good as the Scottish press make them out
A decent manager should get more out of our squad.
Southpaws
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Based on what? He hasn’t had to handle the pressures of being Rangers manager or playing against 12 men most weeks or dealing with a senior player revolt.
Pedro was unlucky with a lot of things which when added to his obvious shortcomings in the decision making dept meant that things ended abruptly for him. But it wasn’t all bad and perhaps with a bit more time and luck things might just have panned out.
If DM is to get the job it will be interesting to see how he copes with the pressure, the different standards applied by refereees and any player revolts. Then I’ll judge whether he’s ‘a million miles’ better than Pedro.
Drumchapel-Bear
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Having a go at McInnes for not winning the league with Aberdeen is akin to saying Michael O'Neill is a failure for not winning The Euros with NI.
Every club has a ceiling. The sign of a good manager is looking at where a club was when he inherited it and what position he leaves it in. If winning a trophy defines a good manager then there's only a small percentage of good managers in the whole football world.
Every club has a ceiling. The sign of a good manager is looking at where a club was when he inherited it and what position he leaves it in. If winning a trophy defines a good manager then there's only a small percentage of good managers in the whole football world.
The Great One
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It wasn't all bad?
McInnes will seem like Mourinho to you if you genuinely believe that
The Ultimate Warrior
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I think McIness is a bit of a shite bag of a manager - shits his arse quite often and doesn't tend to win big games - I find him a little Moyes at Evertonesque he just isn't ballsy enough
