Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

[MrBawheid]

I'm doing some art work at the moment for awareness to the Peodo ring in the east end.
what are the names of all convicted to date as regarding Ceptic FC
I have
James McCafferty
Jim Torbett
Frank Cairney
Gerald King
am I missing 1 as thought there were 5. Can someone confirm.

 

[Now and forever]

True but on the flip side all they have to do is prove it isn’t and it’s all over. Fine margins.

It has to be proven regardless.

 

[George Goudie]

Does anyone have a generic email they are sending to these companies? Please

Basically question their integrity as a company - that they would sponsor an organisation that supported and protected a massive Peadophile ring.

Keep them all different mate. Generic notes in their dozens will loose this quest any credibility mate.

From other posters....Consider asking any of these questions.

“Are you comfortable with your companies relationship with a sports club that had a paedophile ring operating over decades?”

“Do you intend renewing sponsorship of a sports club at the heart of a paedophile ring?”

“Do you agree that those who do not condemn paedophile rings publicly condone them?”

“Do you regret sponsoring a club with historical links to a paedophile ring?”

 

[Craigie]

If this is true the shit just got real.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1145395275353268225

So argued that as they were UK based they shouldn't face proceedings in the US

No Separate Entity defence used tellingly.


If, of course, this is accurate.

 

[Craigie]

I'm doing some art work at the moment for awareness to the Peodo ring in the east end.
what are the names of all convicted to date as regarding Ceptic FC
I have
James McCafferty
Jim Torbett
Frank Cairney
Gerald King
am I missing 1 as thought there were 5. Can someone confirm.

Torbett X 2
Cullen the photographer for the Celtc View.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

I'm assuming this must be to do with the abuse which happened on US soil. Lawwell's dirty hands are all over that one.

The Cairney abuse in Kearney New Jersey mate ?

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Actions raised by Thompsons would be under civil, rather than criminal, law; as such the success criterium is 'On the balance of probabilities' rather than 'Beyond all reasonable doubt'.

100%. Easier to win civil case.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Torbett X 2
Cullen the photographer for the Celtc View.

Neil Strachan

 

[Square Deal Sam]

I'm doing some art work at the moment for awareness to the Peodo ring in the east end.
what are the names of all convicted to date as regarding Ceptic FC
I have
James McCafferty
Jim Torbett
Frank Cairney
Gerald King
am I missing 1 as thought there were 5. Can someone confirm.

Cullen, the Celtic View Photographer & Strachan from Edinburgh CBC

There is also another one on the run that remains unnamed at this time.

 

[Southernlion]

Thompson's will be doing this on a no win no fee basis. The victims won't be out of pocket.

Some certainly will be members of trade unions. Thompsons is the main solicitors used by trade unions

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

True but on the flip side all they have to do is prove it isn’t and it’s all over. Fine margins.

Hard one to prove with McCafferty mate
And wasn’t Cairney proven to have got a wage from the club ?
Etc etc

 

[LarkfiedLoyalNS]

So argued that as they were UK based they shouldn't face proceedings in the US

No Separate Entity defence used tellingly.


If, of course, this is accurate.

Hope to God this is true.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

So argued that as they were UK based they shouldn't face proceedings in the US

No Separate Entity defence used tellingly.


If, of course, this is accurate.

Good point Craigie. They’ve had more own goals in the close season than the football season

 

[BentleyBear]

So argued that as they were UK based they shouldn't face proceedings in the US

No Separate Entity defence used tellingly.


If, of course, this is accurate.

Yes as you say, if its accurate, Sponsors should be feeling a little uneasy just about now!

 

[Square Deal Sam]

Hope to God this is true.

As do I.

But just can't see it.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Basically question their integrity as a company - that they would sponsor an organisation that supported and protected a massive Peadophile ring.

Keep them all different mate. Generic notes in their dozens will loose this quest any credibility mate.

And mention that there is clear evidence that they housed a pardophile ring.
And they tried to deny it by holding an internal investigation that denied any wrongdoing that was before some of the claimed paedophiles were convicted.
Additionally they are the ONLY football club in the history of the world who KNOWINGLY re employed a paedophile. This is a slam dunk point.

Or in simple terms -

#celticknew

 

[jweebear]

If it has shit has just got real. Expect a fire sale at the piggery

In that case they will be trying like mad to punt their best assets, like Tierney, McGregor......... Hold on aren't they desperately trying that right now.

 

[Din Grogu]

I’ll be in touch @Grigo Yossarian

On a side note,I’m sure another poster asked this earlier on the thread,what’s was the drill with the “McNeil open secret” was it a quote from inside court or was in the rags,or a book was there any solid info on it,anyone ??

My recollection of this quote was that he said it in a television interview in the 90s when the story first broke. It might have been a documentary or just a news clip. Maybe that’s why we can’t find it in newspaper archives? We should be looking at TV archives?

 

[sammysun]

I think we will need further proof that this Jambo is correct and aint blowing smoke up our erse?

 

[Nacho Novo]

Cullen, the Celtic View Photographer & Strachan from Edinburgh CBC

There is also another one on the run that remains unnamed at this time.

Lawwell himself? Gerry McCann? I'd imagine there must still be a number of others that haven't been named yet be it on the Celtic Football Club Board or more Celtic Boys Club coaches or directors? Everyone must have known, how could someone work there and deny the truth? I recon there must be more.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

What exactly is this about mate?

Must be the Cairney abuse in New Jersey George.

 

[jf1960]

I'm doing some art work at the moment for awareness to the Peodo ring in the east end.
what are the names of all convicted to date as regarding Ceptic FC
I have
James McCafferty
Jim Torbett
Frank Cairney
Gerald King
am I missing 1 as thought there were 5. Can someone confirm.

There are 6 so far not counting Torbett's 2nd conviction 7 if you include the one who has fled and is now on the run and remember Gerry MCSherry said he gave over a list of 14

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

If it has shit has just got real. Expect a fire sale at the piggery

They’re dropped in serious serious shit if this is true mate.
PennState payouts over $100m George Goudie ?

 

[George Goudie]

I'm not on twitter. Don't understand it.

But this hashtag thing, what exactly is it?

Would it not be better to attack the SNatsiParty? For instance:

#SNP-ProtectingPeadophiles

#SNP-YESTOcondoningPeadophilia

 

[Haining84]

If this is true the shit just got real.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1145395275353268225

I've heard nothing about this so not sure if it's a wind up or not.The account is followed by both Helen and Michelle Gray and someone else quite close to things though.

I see if I can find anything out.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

There are 6 so far not counting Torbett's 2nd conviction 7 if you include the one who has fled and is now on the run and remember Gerry MCSherry said he gave over a list of 14

And many years before Gerry did, Hugh Birt gave the club it, so they’ve almost definitely caused many children to have been abused because of the club actions and ‘scurrilous’ accusations claim.

Yep. A club like no other. THEY GOT THAT RIGHT.

 

[jweebear]

Must be the Cairney abuse in New Jersey George.

That episode in America is so well documented , that it would be difficult to argue against it didn't happen. I hope it's true that American litigators are on the Paedos case.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

I've heard nothing about this so not sure if it's a wind up or not.The account is followed by both Helen and Michelle Gray and someone else quite close to things though.

I see if I can find anything out.

Good man Haining

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

That episode in America is so well documted, that it would be difficult to argue against it didn't happen. I hope it's true and American litigators are on the Paedos case.

Exactly Jwee.

THE other thing about it was the meeting in Boston Airport where they agreed not to tell the police but also just let Cairney walk away & claim it was due to business interests. Totally exposed the cover up.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

In that case they will be trying like mad to punt their best assets, like Tierney, McGregor......... Hold on aren't they desperately trying that right now.

Funny

 

[Fairs fair]

If this is true the shit just got real.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1145395275353268225

Let's hope this is true but as I saw someone tweet, anything legal could be found online- where is the information this is correct?

 

[George Goudie]

They’re dropped in serious serious shit if this is true mate.
PennState payouts over $100m George Goudie ?

Try $280m Grigo. But the US Government don't condone peadophilia, whereas the Scottish government see it as a 'lesser' crime to fraud. Hence the light sentences. It really is incredible when you read that back to yourself. Scotland is becoming toxic.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

My recollection of this quote was that he said it in a television interview in the 90s when the story first broke. It might have been a documentary or just a news clip. Maybe that’s why we can’t find it in newspaper archives? We should be looking at TV archives?

Thanks Karbear.

 

[Square Deal Sam]

Let's hope this is true but as I saw someone tweet, anything legal could be found online- where is the information this is correct?

I doubt very much that this is true.

 

[Nacho Novo]

The last video from the USA concerning Celtic...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39774853

 

[muttley]

That episode in America is so well documented , that it would be difficult to argue against it didn't happen. I hope it's true and American litigators are on the Paedos case.

1991 - Frank Cairney resigns after abuse allegations against a minor in New Jersey.

1994 - Tommy Burns attempts to bring Cairney back into the " Celtic family ", but is refused by Fergus McCann following outrage from Peasant fans in New Jersey.

https://themanthebheastscanttame.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/the-celtic-sex-case/

Cairney should have been extradited long ago to face trial in the USA. Only Holyrood and the Crown Office can explain why he wasn't. Even then, the victims of abuse might not receive justice in the USA. This short video clip from a senior American RC lawyer at the Oxford Union explains why. The first three minutes in are disturbing, very disturbing.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Try $280m Grigo. But the US Government don't condone peadophilia, whereas the Scottish government see it as a 'lesser' crime to fraud. Hence the light sentences. It really is incredible when you read that back to yourself. Scotland is becoming toxic.

Absolutely George. Just had a shower but this country still makes me feel dirty

But that’s massive for Penn State. $280m. Even though there was only one proven victim in USA it could easily cost over $10m, but will just blow everything wide open.

Sponsors, SFA, Wee Nikla’s gang all exposed worldwide.

Could be game set & match given its Wimbledon week.

 

[Haining84]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1145406279483105281

 

[BlueLagoonCo]

I've heard nothing about this so not sure if it's a wind up or not.The account is followed by both Helen and Michelle Gray and someone else quite close to things though.

I see if I can find anything out.

I follow the account do you want me to ask for an email contact?

 

[stillAlwaysblue]

After 164 pages of this I hope we are going to see success and they are shown up for what they are. No doubt they will spend a fortune and do anything to get away with it.

 

[Haining84]

I follow the account do you want me to ask for an email contact?

It's bullshit as I expected mate.

I'll try get a genuine update tonight and report back what I can.

 

[IrvineLoyal]

My recollection of this quote was that he said it in a television interview in the 90s when the story first broke. It might have been a documentary or just a news clip. Maybe that’s why we can’t find it in newspaper archives? We should be looking at TV archives?

I am sure i seen this on tv in the 90s no doubt the footage be destroyed by now

 

[BlueLagoonCo]

It's bullshit as I expected mate.

I'll try get a genuine update tonight and report back what I can.

No worries

 

[The Goal Machine]

Just spotted this on Twitter, is this true?

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Just heard Celtic FC have lost their appeal against the US supreme courts in Washington DC. Celtic appealed against being trialed in the US as they're a UK based company but legally the US courts have rubbished that claim, and they lost their appeal.
7:14 PM - 30 Jun 2019

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July 29th is when Celtic will be in the hands of the US supreme court. This info is sourced from an influential board member from a Scottish Premiership club.

 

[The Goal Machine]

Just spotted this on Twitter, is this true?

[B]VCcam96[/B]‏ @[B]LifeIsFootball6[/B]
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Just heard Celtic FC have lost their appeal against the US supreme courts in Washington DC. Celtic appealed against being trialed in the US as they're a UK based company but legally the US courts have rubbished that claim, and they lost their appeal.
7:14 PM - 30 Jun 2019

[B]VCcam96[/B]‏ @[B]LifeIsFootball6[/B] 1h1 hour ago
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July 29th is when Celtic will be in the hands of the US supreme court. This info is sourced from an influential board member from a Scottish Premiership club.

Sorry a bit late to the party, still wondering though.

Maybe the reasons for the fire sale, Tims saying Tierney has said his goodbyes.

 

[George Goudie]

Sorry a bit late to the party, still wondering though.

Maybe the reasons for the fire sale, Tims saying Tierney has said his goodbyes.

It's bogus shite mate. Ignore it.

 

[MrBawheid]

thanks for the names of the convicted, I have managed to get photos of all bar 1, John Cullen. Anyone got access to his mugshot?

 

[Nacho Novo]

https://stv.tv/news/west-central/1433901-whistleblower-accuses-celtic-of-failing-sex-abuse-victims/

Gerry McSherry said: "I gave the police the names. 14 names, not two names.

"I gave them the names in 1995 and 1996. They only arrested Torbett and Cairney at the time.

"Clearly, serious questions need to be asked of the police."

He believes that both he and Birt were smeared for speaking out and admits that doing so took a huge toll on his personal life and "still does".

Lets hope all 14 are rounded up, jailed for life and never see the light of day ever again.

 

[jweebear]

thanks for the names of the convicted, I have managed to get photos of all bar 1, John Cullen. Anyone got access to his mugshot?

Record archives bud, from memory 'm sure they had a pic of him arriving or leaving court?

 

[Sam English]

thanks for the names of the convicted, I have managed to get photos of all bar 1, John Cullen. Anyone got access to his mugshot?

Go to Google. You'll find photo's there mate