Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)
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jexx
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Jim McCafferty sentence: Legal action over child abuse is imminent, Celtic warned
Marc Horne
May 16 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Celtic has expressed sympathy for the victims but insisted that the boys club is a separate organisationTIMES PHOTOGRAPHER JAMES GLOSSOP
Celtic FC will face a multimillion pound compensation claim “within months” unless it accepts responsibility for the paedophiles who preyed on young players, a senior lawyer has said.
The warning from Patrick McGuire, who has represented some of the victims, comes after Jim McCafferty, 73, a former club kitman and Celtic Boys Club coach, was jailed for six years and nine months after admitting that he had molested boys over 24 years.
Jim McCaffertyPOLICE SCOTLAND
The jail sentence is the third to be handed down to former Celtic Boys Club staff after Jim Torbett, 71, its founder, and Frank Cairney, 83, a coach, were imprisoned for sexually assaulting youngsters.
Gerard Kind, 66, the former chairman of the boys’ club, was convicted of abusing four boys and a girl…
Marc Horne
May 16 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Celtic has expressed sympathy for the victims but insisted that the boys club is a separate organisationTIMES PHOTOGRAPHER JAMES GLOSSOP
Celtic FC will face a multimillion pound compensation claim “within months” unless it accepts responsibility for the paedophiles who preyed on young players, a senior lawyer has said.
The warning from Patrick McGuire, who has represented some of the victims, comes after Jim McCafferty, 73, a former club kitman and Celtic Boys Club coach, was jailed for six years and nine months after admitting that he had molested boys over 24 years.
Jim McCaffertyPOLICE SCOTLAND
The jail sentence is the third to be handed down to former Celtic Boys Club staff after Jim Torbett, 71, its founder, and Frank Cairney, 83, a coach, were imprisoned for sexually assaulting youngsters.
Gerard Kind, 66, the former chairman of the boys’ club, was convicted of abusing four boys and a girl…
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And this is why, even if the SFA or SPFL do nothing they will always have to ring fence millions for such legal action
tobeornottobe
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Here is the full version , the typo Gerard Kind should have read Gerald King , I'm sure.
Marc Horne
May 16 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Jim McCafferty sentence: Legal action over child abuse is imminent, Celtic warned
Celtic FC will face a multimillion pound compensation claim “within months” unless it accepts responsibility for the paedophiles who preyed on young players, a senior lawyer has said.
The warning from Patrick McGuire, who has represented some of the victims, comes after Jim McCafferty, 73, a former club kitman and Celtic Boys Club coach, was jailed for six years and nine months after admitting that he had molested boys over 24 years.
The jail sentence is the third to be handed down to former Celtic Boys Club staff after Jim Torbett, 71, its founder, and Frank Cairney, 83, a coach, were imprisoned for sexually assaulting youngsters.
Gerald King, 66, the former chairman of the boys’ club, was convicted of abusing four boys and a girl while he was employed as a primary school teacher, but was not jailed.
Mr McGuire, a partner with Thompsons Solicitors, said that court action would be launched imminently unless the club changed its stance.
Celtic has expressed sympathy for the victims but has insisted that the boys club is a separate organisation and not its responsibility.
Mr McGuire said: “We have formally intimated a large number of claims on behalf of survivors of all the four named paedophiles that operated under the guise of the wider Celtic umbrella. We continue to gather evidence and have got a lot of financial information. We have got the evidence of survivors, talking about the links.
“The case is being gathered and we absolutely will be going to court, and probably doing so in a matter of months, unless Celtic’s tack changes.”
Mr McGuire argued that Celtic should follow the precedent set by Manchester City, which has launched a compensation scheme for youngsters abused by Barry Bennell, a former youth coach and serial paedophile.
“Celtic’s board and chief executive should stop hiding behind their lawyers and start looking at what Manchester City has done,” he said.
It has been reported that a claim could amount to more than £5 million.
Celtic FC did not respond to a request for comment.
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SuperGers07
Hates Kenny Miller & Bret Hart
Dornan has tweeted saying he is contacting Lawwell today re the bheasts
Whitburnbear
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Here's what i expect them to pull.
Remember the name change in 1994 ????
Remember the name change in 1994 ????
RangersEasyOK
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“What can I do to help tidy up this awful mess Pedro”
QueensferryCR3Bear
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Sounds like their chuckyarla nonsense really is coming home to roost....their day is coming.
Mondraker
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Penn state have paid out upwards of $100 million now.
Not too dissimilar in that there were rumours and signals but those in charge chose to do nothing.
If theres not a similar outcome with Celtic it really does put a signal out to the world, Scotland is a relatively safe place to be a paedophile.
Not too dissimilar in that there were rumours and signals but those in charge chose to do nothing.
If theres not a similar outcome with Celtic it really does put a signal out to the world, Scotland is a relatively safe place to be a paedophile.
HMS.Temple.Garden
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Pacific Shelf?!
Craigie
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Graham Spiers will be having a word decrying the point scoring from his boss.
HMS.Temple.Garden
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did they not end up having national championships being removed only to be reinstated?
TAFKA Earl C etc
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You're talking fans who sign songs in praise of men that have murdered children, blown up foetuses, butchered those at Remembrance Services etc. etc - what's a few hundred more innocent lives to be ruined to them?
Whitburnbear
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Yes.
It changed from "The Celtic football and Athletic Company"
to
"Celtic Football club"
you know where im going
BackJardine
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Punitive damages are not available in Scotland. So that won't happen unfortunately. I seen a post that compensation for inflicted PTSD can range from £40k - £88k
the voice
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Remember, some of these victims and their families are on record as saying they were strongly warned by Celtic not to take matters further at the time because it would tarnish the reputation of the club (CFC, not the boys club...)
I'd say its check mate against Celtic now, they either admit accountability or it goes to court and all their dirty secrets get aired.
Either way, I think this will cost them millions in compensation and to the damage to their "reputation"... Also, no chance Lawell is surviving this.
I'd say its check mate against Celtic now, they either admit accountability or it goes to court and all their dirty secrets get aired.
Either way, I think this will cost them millions in compensation and to the damage to their "reputation"... Also, no chance Lawell is surviving this.
Drumchapel-Bear
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That's nice, a lovely wee private conversation with Pete. How about a full f*cking public enquiry to get to the bottom of exactly what went on in that rancid club for the best part of 3 decades?
RWL12
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Which means they would have to deny the 1967 cup win...
“Goodbye paradise(boak)” seems like a good start. Pictures say 1000 words.
Some of the abuse took place on a tour in the USA, take the case there and the damages do through the roof.
Whitburnbear
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Gloucester Bear
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Celtic don't own the stadium - ownership was transferred to Willie haughey a number of years ago - wonder why?
BackJardine
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This is potentially the card which will damage them most. They are continuing t
Yup. Can only hope the states gain traction. I think its the only hope we have of seeing really justice served unfortunately.
Sutton_Blows_goats
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that will be part of a concert act to play this out with some token gesture so people can wash their hands and say 'we dealt with it'
ZvP
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That won't happen in this country as you cannot charge the people carrying out these crimes with punitive damages. It's only compensation figures for those violated. The highest in this country has been around £500k and that was settled out of court. For those awarded by the court, it's more like £75k.
Here is an interesting read on the true legal ramifications of this in Scotland. (Top comment)
Bluenose1979
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CFC will be bricking it and doing loop-the-loops with their legal teams on this one.
"We'll sue for multimillions UNLESS you admit responsibility" has to be a nightmare position for them.
Admit responsibility and create an open goal for payout claims or continue to deflect and deny and be taken to court for the claims anyway.
What this tone from the lawyer does suggest is that the victims aren't chasing the money - they're saying they'll stop pursuing if the club admits its part.
"We'll sue for multimillions UNLESS you admit responsibility" has to be a nightmare position for them.
Admit responsibility and create an open goal for payout claims or continue to deflect and deny and be taken to court for the claims anyway.
What this tone from the lawyer does suggest is that the victims aren't chasing the money - they're saying they'll stop pursuing if the club admits its part.
It worries me that they are giving them months to admit liability.
I hope their case is as strong as they are making out.
I hope their case is as strong as they are making out.
omegaman
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Even Celtic must know this separate entity wheeze is doomed to failure.
The fact Stein had the authority to boot Torbett out of the Boys Club rips that up for starters.
That they then re-employed Torbett in full knowledge of his previous abuse is a smoking gun of gigantic proportions.
But, Beasts being Beasts, they always live in hope of cheating their way to victory.
I think their luck is just about to run out.
The fact Stein had the authority to boot Torbett out of the Boys Club rips that up for starters.
That they then re-employed Torbett in full knowledge of his previous abuse is a smoking gun of gigantic proportions.
But, Beasts being Beasts, they always live in hope of cheating their way to victory.
I think their luck is just about to run out.
BrownBrogues
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Tick tick tock
Eighteen Seventy Two
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It's up to us individually to share and spread articles like this far and wide amongst social media and news outlets.
Give the victims what the deserve, and show them up for what they truly are.
Give the victims what the deserve, and show them up for what they truly are.
BrownBrogues
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tazzabear
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Nope.
Even this morning, nothing to do with the club.
Every question calling on deaf ears.
One retort “why are you so obsessed with this?”
My reply “Because, if we weren’t, you and the other paedo pals, would get away with it.
Charliedontsurf
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They will do what they always do.
Stay silent .
Deny deflect.
Point fingers elsewhere .
The other abusers named by Birt will go unpunished
Stay silent .
Deny deflect.
Point fingers elsewhere .
The other abusers named by Birt will go unpunished
omegaman
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Their case is as strong as this: were Celtic Football Club aware of the child abuse at Celtic Boys Club?
The answer to that is a resounding yes because we know Torbett was removed from his position as the head of the Boys Club by people within the Football Club.
Torbett was then later re-employed by people within the football club to resume his role at the Boys Club in full knowledge of that earlier abuse whereupon, wouldn’t you just know it, he resumed abusing kids again too.
It’s going to take a highly skilled lawyer of considerable moral turpitude to help them wriggle out of this and cheat the victims out of their rightful justice, but then this is 21st century Scotland so I guess that is a distinct possibility.
temperance
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To be fair the majority on the huddleboard are demanding that the club take responsibility and apologise.
noucamp72
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Just one of many gaping holes in their 'separate entity' defence.
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
Are they? I had a quick gander on Kiddiefiddler Street and no mention. Huddleboard is a 'closed' forum. I assume you have a log in? Don't doubt you but it is strange that their two main forums have such a different approach.
Danger Zone
Just the tip...
Simple question.
If the boys club is a separate organisation and their club isn’t culpable, then why have their club gone to such lengths to cover this up for 3 decades?
Acts committed under previous leadership yes, but the cover up continued under the present regime. They should be taken to the cleaners, and quite honestly, put out of business both for allowing it to happen, for covering it up and for the complete lack of remorse shown towards the victims.
If the boys club is a separate organisation and their club isn’t culpable, then why have their club gone to such lengths to cover this up for 3 decades?
Acts committed under previous leadership yes, but the cover up continued under the present regime. They should be taken to the cleaners, and quite honestly, put out of business both for allowing it to happen, for covering it up and for the complete lack of remorse shown towards the victims.
HogieBlueBear
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It has been reported that a claim could amount to more than £5 million.
Surely it would be a lot more than this??
Surely it would be a lot more than this??
Blue Steel
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Why even bother looking in then .
ahalfallover
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tick.............tock
