Daily Record – Kent

[The Shadow]

I have a good few scouser mates. Most of them have said that while Kent is good, it was always accepted that Ojo was the better of the two coming up through the ranks.

 

[donka]

I read somewhere that he started the 1st game of the season against Spurs

Yes, that was the Under 23 match where Spurs pumped them 4 nil.

 

[PMB1872]

I have a good few scouser mates. Most of them have said that while Kent is good, it was always accepted that Ojo was the better of the two coming up through the ranks.

It is been said that Ojo was seen to be the best of Ojo, Kent and Wilson in the youth ranks.

 

[SuperGers07]

Today's Heart and Hand daily update has set my mind at ease somewhat

 

[Boab4]

I think if we were getting him then we would have got him by now.

Why? The window doesn't close for over a week.

So if we're getting him it would be by then not necessarily by now.

 

[Polar bear]

We need to go after there full backs, we need speed Ojo and A fit Kent would run riot.

Arfield,Jack and Davis are an absolute must.

 

[GimmeShelter]

Keith Jackson talking out his arse eh?

I am stunned.

I actually thought after reading it that he was trouble making.

There was no new info in the article but he snidely hinted at Kent 'downing tools' to 'force' a move.

I can't imagine Liverpool would have been too happy reading it which is probably what Jacksons article was intended for.

 

[tazzabear]

That used to bug my happiness.

As recently as yesterday I fell for this one!

 

[stephen ferris]

Arfield,Jack and Davis are an absolute must.

Jack and Davis are a must. Would you start arfield in front of aribo? My midfield 3 would be jack Davis and aribo.

 

[Recoba]

I am very relaxed about this, would love to have him back but if he doesn't we still have dangerous players who are ready.

 

[Recoba]

Jack and Davis are a must. Would you start arfield in front of aribo? My midfield 3 would be jack Davis and aribo.

Correct, there is absolutely no chance of Aribo not starting most weeks.

 

[JW1988]

announce Kent!

 

[Bigcol]

I've just been told he is almost signed. We will pick up his full wage and an option to buy next season.Seemingly on the radio.Can anyone confirm.

 

[Recoba]

I've just been told he is almost signed. We will pick up his full wage and an option to buy next season.Seemingly on the radio.Can anyone confirm.

What station ?

 

[Boab4]

I've just been told he is almost signed. We will pick up his full wage and an option to buy next season.Seemingly on the radio.Can anyone confirm.

Someone is telling you a lot of shite.

 

[Damsidebear]

As recently as yesterday I fell for this one!

I can't stand it, it's a great ploy though to keep you watching and interested.

 

[MCMLXXXI]

He will be the 2019 version of Vladimir Weiss. I can’t see him back at Rangers

TBH I'm sick of hearing about him.

Would much rather concentrate on what we do have rather than what we might have.

 

[chilebear]

Today's Heart and Hand daily update has set my mind at ease somewhat

What did H&H say mate?

 

[Bigcol]

What station ?

Dont know..he never said.Assuming Clyde.Said hes in talks and Rangers will pick up all his wages that hes on at Liverpool with an option to buy.Cant see him making that up.

 

[Boab4]

Dont know..he never said.Assuming Clyde.Said hes in talks and Rangers will pick up all his wages that hes on at Liverpool with an option to buy.Cant see him making that up.

I was listening to clyde1 and it wasn't mentioned

 

[Jose Calypso]

Today's Heart and Hand daily update has set my mind at ease somewhat

Care to elaborate?

 

[Russell]

Come on home young Ryan Kent

 

[Worthy_Candidate]

Still stand by my prophecy of a week back,

‘In the beginning Gerrard created the defence and the midfield. Now the attacking third was formless and empty, darkness was across the inside forward position and the Spirit of Gerrard was hovering over the edge of the box. And Gerrard said’ “Let there be Kent,” and there was Kent.’

 

[CinnamonSwally]

Care to elaborate?

Amazes me how people completely vanish after posting inconclusive messages.

 

[SuperGers07]

Care to elaborate?

listen to it

 

[Starting Anew]

Interestingly, if you plugged Arfield in for Ojo then, with the exception of Aribo, every one in that starting line up was on the books last year (Davis of course for the second half of the season only).

Astute observation. We haven’t massively improved the starting 11 during the close season other than Aribo. But I do think Aribo is a truly massive upgrade as he offers central link up and goals, making us much less predictable. We’ve also added goals from wide through Arfield or Ojo. You could argue that we had that at the end of the season but having it all season is crucial.

The other thing we’ve done is have a massive upgrade to the squad. There is no single player where injury or loss of form could wreck a period of our season. Last year we were dreading injury to Morelos, Kent, either centre back or Jack. Now players of very equivalent ability will slot right in. Also keeps the first team on their toes as there is genuine threat to their starts.

I do also agree with the first poster. I think that, if Kent comes in, him and Ojo will often start without Arfield. Ojo is just more versatile than Arfield. That said, Arfield can be immense and could easily see him getting the shirt. Either way, substituting between any of those 3 should rightly terrify opponents.

 

[CinnamonSwally]

listen to it

Honkin patter

 

[Bigcol]

I was listening to clyde1 and it wasn't mentioned

I never said it was clyde..I'm only assuming.Tbh I cant see why hed lie as hes a blue nose.Anywho..we shall just have to wait and see.

 

[SuperGers07]

Honkin patter

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its £1.99

 

[gerrard32]

Care to elaborate?

Amazes me how people completely vanish after posting inconclusive messages.

Its a few pages back cant remember where but they were confident it was a goer

 

[Starting Anew]

Jack and Davis are a must. Would you start arfield in front of aribo? My midfield 3 would be jack Davis and aribo.

Arfield is not competing to play in the midfield 3. He does not function there anything like as well as at least 5 of the 6 players we have for the 3 roles.

Arfield is competing for one of the forward berths, most likely directly competing with Ojo to be the inside forward with a more traditional winger on the other side.

 

[CinnamonSwally]

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its £1.99

Yes, I subscribe. Possible that some are not able to listen to the full thing and would appreciate some piece of mind from a reliable source in amongst all the rumours that are being posted.

If I was in a position to share the news with someone who asked me, I would.

 

[LarkfiedLoyalNS]

Just rebuilt my heart for it to be broken to pieces again no doubt come home Ryan !

 

[Jose Calypso]

listen to it

Cheers

 

[Avengers]

I really like Kent, however like others have said we really need the left back problem sorted. I'm confident we have strength in every position except there. If we get Kent then great but if it doesn't happen we still have so much excitement up front

 

[steve1873]

You think Kent can be more productive than Jones.?

Yes because he is a better player

 

[Craigie]

listen to it

And for those who are unable listen at this immediate juncture due to work?

 

[BigBuff]

And for those who are unable listen at this immediate juncture due to work?

I'm assuming theres no massive news or it would be all thread

 

[Nerf Herder]

H&H saying no change in the stance from either club - Liverpool want a permanent transfer and Rangers can’t afford it.

Kent pushing hard for a move - most likely a loan with a commitment to buy at the end.

Might happen, might not.

 

[Jose Calypso]

H&H saying no change in the stance from either club - Liverpool want a permanent transfer and Rangers can’t afford it.

Kent pushing hard for a move - most likely a loan with a commitment to buy at the end.

Might happen, might not.

Thanks

 

[CoulibalyLoyal]

Yes, I subscribe. Possible that some are not able to listen to the full thing and would appreciate some piece of mind from a reliable source in amongst all the rumours that are being posted.

If I was in a position to share the news with someone who asked me, I would.

Or just listen to the pod

 

[Timardim]

Kent was in the Duck Bay Marina at Loch Lomand last night with his girlfriend for dinner.

I bet his girlfriend wasn't too pleased about it

 

[Craigie]

H&H saying no change in the stance from either club - Liverpool want a permanent transfer and Rangers can’t afford it.

Kent pushing hard for a move - most likely a loan with a commitment to buy at the end.

Might happen, might not.

Thanks for obliging.

 

[CinnamonSwally]

Or just listen to the pod

Just so we’re clear, for every bear not in a position to listen to the podcast; tough tits, according to you?

 

[ChinaskiBear]

Fuckin.... Fuckin... Fuckin booooooooo!

Although sadly it is probably the truth.

Why?

Kent isn't getting anywhere near that first team. Hes playing for the u23's

 

[defender]

Just catching up on things, seeing 'loan with obligation to buy'. What's the benefits of loan with obligation? I don't see any for us apart from giving more time to get fee together (which is likely the key) but would it still leave Liverpool with option to recall after season i.e. we agree loan with an obligation to buy for say 7M, he tears up EL, wins us 55 and everyone is after him, can LFC recall and punt to English team for 14M+?

I don't see the difference, from buyers perpsective betweeen loan with obligation to buy and just buying with generous payment milestones? Can someone educate me?

Good question, I’d like to know to, if we’ve only got a buying option then buy now with staged payment, if he carries in with his performances it may as well be us that get the benefit if he moves for big money later.

The obligation thing makes no sense other than Liverpool keeping the chance to cash in if a bidding war starts in the next 2 windows

 

[BlueMcLeod89]

Aye but David Edgar from heart and hand said hes signing!

 

[JW1988]

Lets face it guys



He’s coming home!!

 

[AriseSirWalter]

Good question, I’d like to know to, if we’ve only got a buying option then buy now with staged payment, if he carries in with his performances it may as well be us that get the benefit if he moves for big money later.

The obligation thing makes no sense other than Liverpool keeping the chance to cash in if a bidding war starts in the next 2 windows

Posters above say that Liverpool wouldn’t recall but I’m not so sure if they feel money could be made.

I’m the same as you, loan with option to buy at a pre-agreed price seems better for us.

 

[Starting Anew]

Good question, I’d like to know to, if we’ve only got a buying option then buy now with staged payment, if he carries in with his performances it may as well be us that get the benefit if he moves for big money later.

The obligation thing makes no sense other than Liverpool keeping the chance to cash in if a bidding war starts in the next 2 windows

When i’ve seen these things, it’s usually the other way round like it was with us and Murphy and Cummings. The ‘buying’ club has an arrangement to buy at a fixed fee at the end of the loan but has no obligation to do so. We exercised the option with Murphy and let it lapse with Cummings.

The Kent saga would make more sense the other way round as you suggest. We seem to want to have Kent more than Liverpool want to give him to us so us having all the risk would make more sense. I wouldn’t be adverse to that. If you’d told me 3 months ago that we’d get him back on loan with no buying option, i’d be delighted. Having an obligation to buy at something affordable (say £5mill) but with a risk that Liverpool take him back if he’s set Scotland on fire would seem pretty ok.