Big Blue Bear
Well-Known Member
Sadly it will fall on deaf ears
I admire your confidence however what would you suggest at the piggery when only 800 bears get to go and 10/15% decide to go “traditional “ ?
Fair, but beside the point sadlyWhich again begs the question, why are the club using 4lads as their mouthpiece?
No it can’t, we’ve tried it before without success. It’s a song stuck in the days when Love Thy Neighbour, Alf Garnett and Jim Will Fix It were all acceptable. Time to bin it.TBB must stay, fantastic anthem that gets the ground rocking. If the Club got together with Club 1872 and other fan groups, changed a few lyrics and handed out leaflets, released statements along with word of mouth and a bit of self policing, it absolutely can be done!
Give it a rest, he was asked the question at the press conference, and he gave a great response. The club have also issued a statement regarding the singing. So let’s be clear the manager was not hung out to dry by anyone at the club.
That doesn’t mean he can stop those 20 rows back from starting TBB
Which fans groups?It will work, trust me, we just need the club and fans group to endorse it.
That's pretty grim reading.Steven Gerrard has been blown away by the raucous Ibrox atmosphere and insists the stadium can still be a bear pit without the bigoted bile.
The Rangers squad were weary after touching down at Glasgow Airport in the early hours of Friday morning after their Europa League draw in Warsaw and he is growing even more tired of the section of the club’s support who refuse to heed the warning over sectarian singing.
Gerrard is gutted that his players will be without the backing of 3000 fans for next week’s crucial Europa League playoff return leg.
Although aware of the sectarian problem in Scotland while growing up on Merseyside, the 39-year-old has been shocked at the deep religious divide.
He addressed it last season when his former Anfield coach Steve Clarke was abused while in charge of Kilmarnock during a Scottish Cup tie at Ibrox.
Gerrard hoped the message would get through on that occasion before the club looked to hammer it home with the launch of their ‘Everyone, Anyone’ initiative.
The Ibrox boss said: “There has been numerous situations and questions I’ve had to face, in different press conferences, about different types of fan behaviour.
“I was aware of the rivalry and the religion and politics around it, that stuff, but I didn’t realise how strong it was. I don’t think you do until you actually come here and are involved in it.
“I don’t know what to say. We’ve been here before, when I’ve been asked questions about fan behaviour. You know, I sat in a press conference 10 days or two weeks ago, all about what the club were doing to address behaviour on the terraces.
“It was the Anyone, Everyone campaign – and it was a fantastic thing for the club to do. Everyone is working as hard as they can to promote that.
“That’s not just an idea that someone has come up with overnight. A lot of hard work has gone into that campaign. All the players back it and I back it as manager.
“To have something like this so close to the launch of that campaign is disappointing. Unfortunately, a minority is letting that down.”
Rangers travel to Paisley on Sunday for their live lunchtime clash with St Mirren as they look to maintain their perfect start to the Premiership campaign.
The Light Blues also continue to make progress with some stellar displays on the continent such as the battling draw against Legia Warsaw in midweek.
Gerrard was flanked by midfielder Ryan Jack at The Hummel Training Centre and said: “I should be answering questions about Ryan’s performance last night and about how strong and brave my team were in one of the most hostile environments you can be involved in.
“I should be talking about our positive start to the season.
“Unfortunately, I’m talking about statements we’re having to make every few months about fan behaviour.”
Absolutely mate! Imagine if speccy Robertson was sent out in front of the media telling us not to sing bad songs. There wouldn't be an ounce of flesh left on him by users on hereBecause maybe they'll actually listen to the manager rather than an executive.
We need to convince the UBs that, rightly or wrongly, they are being blamed for this and help them self-police. The boys need to sort this out but the club must give them every assistance.
However, given all the cameras focused on these guys how the hell haven't the culprits been identified?
Indeed. That's the atmosphere trashed. Fans wont be sure what to sing just in case its not acceptable.
No Pope of Rome and TBB have been 'outlawed' over 20 years now. Nothing new in this list, I remember we got told to cut out the same songs and it started up the We are not Sectarian chanting. It comes and goes, UEFA go hard and then stop pressing these matters then it starts up again. We absolutely should be keeping our noses clean whilst simultaneously going after these Papish bastards in every corridor of power who turn a blind eye/ear to anti-Christian, anti-Islam, anti-Semite, anti-gay, misogynistic, pro murdering terrorist supporting chants.That's from Four Lads, not UEFA. I think only their first point is likely to be correct without reasonable challenge, but their advice is good if they want to be totally covered.
I agree with this a lot! We should be better at keeping our house in order, agreed, but there is no consistency or reference to the law, etc.It's t
No Pope of Rome and TBB have been 'outlawed' over 20 years now. Nothing new in this list, I remember we got told to cut out the same songs and it started up the We are not Sectarian chanting. It comes and goes, UEFA go hard and then stop pressing these matters then it starts up again. We absolutely should be keeping our noses clean whilst simultaneously going after these Papish bastards in every corridor of power who turn a blind eye/ear to anti-Christian, anti-Islam, anti-Semite, anti-gay, misogynistic, pro murdering terrorist supporting chants.
For some reason they are fixated on big bad Rangers, the child abuse covering piece of shit Francis and his cabal are receiving unprecedented protection along with Child raping harbouring football games. Why?
TBB must stay, fantastic anthem that gets the ground rocking. If the Club got together with Club 1872 and other fan groups, changed a few lyrics and handed out leaflets, released statements along with word of mouth and a bit of self policing, it absolutely can be done!
Steven Gerrard has been blown away by the raucous Ibrox atmosphere and insists the stadium can still be a bear pit without the bigoted bile.
The Rangers squad were weary after touching down at Glasgow Airport in the early hours of Friday morning after their Europa League draw in Warsaw and he is growing even more tired of the section of the club’s support who refuse to heed the warning over sectarian singing.
Gerrard is gutted that his players will be without the backing of 3000 fans for next week’s crucial Europa League playoff return leg.
Although aware of the sectarian problem in Scotland while growing up on Merseyside, the 39-year-old has been shocked at the deep religious divide.
He addressed it last season when his former Anfield coach Steve Clarke was abused while in charge of Kilmarnock during a Scottish Cup tie at Ibrox.
Gerrard hoped the message would get through on that occasion before the club looked to hammer it home with the launch of their ‘Everyone, Anyone’ initiative.
The Ibrox boss said: “There has been numerous situations and questions I’ve had to face, in different press conferences, about different types of fan behaviour.
“I was aware of the rivalry and the religion and politics around it, that stuff, but I didn’t realise how strong it was. I don’t think you do until you actually come here and are involved in it.
“I don’t know what to say. We’ve been here before, when I’ve been asked questions about fan behaviour. You know, I sat in a press conference 10 days or two weeks ago, all about what the club were doing to address behaviour on the terraces.
“It was the Anyone, Everyone campaign – and it was a fantastic thing for the club to do. Everyone is working as hard as they can to promote that.
“That’s not just an idea that someone has come up with overnight. A lot of hard work has gone into that campaign. All the players back it and I back it as manager.
“To have something like this so close to the launch of that campaign is disappointing. Unfortunately, a minority is letting that down.”
Rangers travel to Paisley on Sunday for their live lunchtime clash with St Mirren as they look to maintain their perfect start to the Premiership campaign.
The Light Blues also continue to make progress with some stellar displays on the continent such as the battling draw against Legia Warsaw in midweek.
Gerrard was flanked by midfielder Ryan Jack at The Hummel Training Centre and said: “I should be answering questions about Ryan’s performance last night and about how strong and brave my team were in one of the most hostile environments you can be involved in.
“I should be talking about our positive start to the season.
“Unfortunately, I’m talking about statements we’re having to make every few months about fan behaviour.”
I defy anyone to read that and still think it should be business as usual.
Not just the buckfast brigade though is it? Grown men and woman in their 30’s, 40’s and beyond do itIt's simple.
Keep singing the songs and sooner or later, not only will UEFA hit us harder but the manager will get so fed fúcking up of the support not listening to a single word he's saying and playing in front of empty stands that he'll head elsewhere.
Your choice Buckfast Brigade.
I very much doubt FARE know the way to Kilmarnock...I'd expect Kilmarnock also have a letter in the post from the Connah's Quay game then?
Not just the buckfast brigade though is it? Grown men and woman in their 30’s, 40’s and beyond do it
I very much doubt FARE know the way to Kilmarnock...
I don’t agree with it either mate. The agenda is transparent.
What makes me sick is the fact those that sang it in the first place have been well warned yet decided that they were more important than the club.Makes u sick to think 3000 fans will miss this for shite
Or anything about F ing the pope'Don't say 19th Century Terrorist'. Gotcha, Stevie.
I literally won't sing that word in Ibrox again.
No, that's fine. We can go over that tomorrow, though. We weren't cited for saying that.Or anything about F ing the pope
and some of the half wits that caused it will still be in the stadium!Makes u sick to think 3000 fans will miss this for shite
you know anything about F the pope will get us in the shite, lets just move on and try our best not to hurt the club, as someone said this will be a ure fire way for the gaffer to get pissed off and head to another club.No, that's fine. We can go over that tomorrow, though. We weren't cited for saying that.
We won't ever be cited for saying it but if you think it's an uncouth thing to say that's a different issue altogether. I can't see Gerrard leaving for us singing something we aren't cited for and have been singing since his first day here.you know anything about F the pope will get us in the shite, lets just move on and try our best not to hurt the club, as someone said this will be a ure fire way for the gaffer to get pissed off and head to another club.
Yep. SG ain’t hanging about if we get banned from Europe.If we don't sort this now then I fear he'll leave far quicker than any of us expected.
You are worth the watchingNo, that's fine. We can go over that tomorrow, though. We weren't cited for saying that.
What makes me sick is the fact those that sang it in the first place have been well warned yet decided that they were more important than the club.
And you know this how? Why can't we just leave the Pope, and anything to do with fecking religion at home. It really aint that difficult mate.We won't ever be cited for saying it but if you think it's an uncouth thing to say that's a different issue altogether. I can't see Gerrard leaving for us singing something we aren't cited for and have been singing since his first day here.
Not sneering at all, I cringe at games and in the boozer when a number of songs get sung. I’m sure many thousands of others do to.And it’s the sneering attitude of some that’s doing my head in.
Those who say now “I told you so” would have probably have joined in a week on Sunday had nothing happened today.
Now it’s like they’re trying to portray other supporters as a sort of sub class, a lower order, holding them solely responsible for this.
Because we sang it at the game we've been cited for saying '19th Century Terrorist' at is how I came to that conclusion.And you know this how? Why can't we just leave the Pope, and anything to do with fecking religion at home. It really aint that difficult mate.
'Don't say 19th Century Terrorist'. Gotcha, Stevie.
I literally won't sing that word in Ibrox again.