What is both ways..?Right you are.
Bollocks would be my reply.
The club can't have it both ways.
The lad breached the T's & C's of his season book. If the Club even consider a refund they're doing him a favour.
What is both ways..?Right you are.
Bollocks would be my reply.
The club can't have it both ways.
I was replying to a poster who had his season ticket taken but was found not guilty.What is both ways..?
The lad breached the T's & C's of his season book. If the Club even consider a refund they're doing him a favour.
I still don't know what both ways is.I was replying to a poster who had his season ticket taken but was found not guilty.
You can't have it both ways either.
Good few years ago now, not bothered about getting the cash back anyway to be honest, did p!ss me right off at the time though.Given that's a fact,you should receive a rebate for any games you had to miss.
If I was the guy I would have my lawyer check through the Ts & Cs for my season ticket to see if it was lawful to refuse a refund of at least part of his season ticket given the incident did not happen at Ibrox.Good few years ago now, not bothered about getting the cash back anyway to be honest, did p!ss me right off at the time though.
Guilty until proven innocent season ticket removed... been there!
You carry on then and imagine what you like.I still don't know what both ways is.
I can imagine a scenario where a fan on the pitch is arrested and charged with a BOTP but a judge decides it wasn't a BOTP.
The fan is still guilty of breaking T's & C's so even found not guilty the Club would still be in their rights to revoke his ST without compensation.
No mate wasn't me, was an away game at killie, same charge though.This has been happening for years, happened to guy that sat in front of me in CF, maybe 18 years ago, sectarian BOP. Six of us went as witnesses, verdict ‘not proven’ only then did he get his ST back. In fact from your user name it may well be you
Killie appears to bring out the worst in us.No mate wasn't me, was an away game at killie, same charge though.
I bet they never thought about that.If I was the guy I would have my lawyer check through the Ts & Cs for my season ticket to see if it was lawful to refuse a refund of at least part of his season ticket given the incident did not happen at Ibrox.
Speak for yourself. I was innocentKillie appears to bring out the worst in us.
Must be something in the pies.
I think this is why the punishment has been so harsh it sends out a message weather your home or away the club won't tolerate this kind of behaviourWhatever happened to staying in the stand?
Would there still be an outcry if it had been a EL match and we were chucked out the tournament because of it?
Given your user name, I'm surprised at your answer.I think this is why the punishment has been so harsh it sends out a message weather your home or away the club won't tolerate this kind of behaviour
I think you might be confusing that for LazioGiven your user name, I'm surprised at your answer.
The club can take action and withdraw fans season tickets without compensation but the fans cant question that decision without being called "supposed fans".I bet they never thought about that.
Supposed Rangers fans desperately trying to find a way for idiots to sue Rangers? Ok then.
The club can take action and withdraw fans season tickets without compensation but the fans cant question that decision without being called "supposed fans".
The authorities are unable to differentiate between fun and criminal behaviour, and between youthful exuberance and stupidity. A stern rebuke and temporary ban is all that was required and not criminal charges. There needs to be some perspective.
There’s been a couple of posts on here recently with us pissing ourselves at the scum suing their club yet here we are. Embarrassing.The club can take action and withdraw fans season tickets without compensation but the fans cant question that decision without being called "supposed fans".
My concern with this episode is that the club have created a precedent which they are therefore compelled to do similar in any future case.
When we win 55 in May, whether it be at Ibrox or elsewhere, it will almost certainly create an ‘exuberance’ that is destined to create a mass exodus of fan from stand to pitch.
Look what happened at Pittodrie in 1987. The gap between titles will be the same, but the difference this time is that we will have been to hell and back.
If at Ibrox I appreciate it might be less of an issue as typically fans on the park tends to be an away day occurrence, but even at Ibrox I still expect to see fans on the pitch. Away, it will be bedlam.
This precedent assumes that thousands of us could be putting ourselves in danger of losing our season tickets when we win the title this season.
I just looked at the terms and conditions and found this:If I was the guy I would have my lawyer check through the Ts & Cs for my season ticket to see if it was lawful to refuse a refund of at least part of his season ticket given the incident did not happen at Ibrox.
I will. I still can't imagine what both ways means..You carry on then and imagine what you like.
The authorities are unable to differentiate between fun and criminal behaviour, and between youthful exuberance and stupidity. A stern rebuke and temporary ban is all that was required and not criminal charges. There needs to be some perspective.
What is there to question?The club can take action and withdraw fans season tickets without compensation but the fans cant question that decision without being called "supposed fans".
This thread is embarrassing. The guy's banned for breaching the terms of his ST. We move on.
So no sympathy to a young Rangers fan caught up in the momment celebrating a goal???
My concern with this episode is that the club have created a precedent which they are therefore compelled to do similar in any future case.
When we win 55 in May, whether it be at Ibrox or elsewhere, it will almost certainly create an ‘exuberance’ that is destined to create a mass exodus of fan from stand to pitch.
Look what happened at Pittodrie in 1987. The gap between titles will be the same, but the difference this time is that we will have been to hell and back.
If at Ibrox I appreciate it might be less of an issue as typically fans on the park tends to be an away day occurrence, but even at Ibrox I still expect to see fans on the pitch. Away, it will be bedlam.
This precedent assumes that thousands of us could be putting ourselves in danger of losing our season tickets when we win the title this season.
Its not 'setting a precedent' though. As I posted very early in the thread, the letter to this young guy is word-for-word the same as was contained in the letters sent to those arrested on the pitch at the Hibs Cup Final. I appreciate the circumstances differ but the punishment meted out is identical - so no precedent set. Rightly or wrongly, its the 'norm' rather than a precedent.
If folk stay in the stands then this thread doesn't exist.
Is it the norm only if arrested for it, or the norm to receive this sort of sanction when invading the pitch?
I appreciate ID’ing someone for invading the pitch if not arrested is probably difficult, but only reason I ask is there have now been several instances of our fans entering the field of play. I’m intrigued to know if any of these individuals have ever been on the receiving end of a similar sanction?
If not, this lad has just gotten unlucky it would appear.
My concern is only for the inevitable carnage when we win 55.
It does mostly appear to be the youngsters who find themselves on the other side of the hoardings, so I should be ok.
The drop from Govan Rear would probably kill me anyway.
So no sympathy to a young Rangers fan caught up in the momment celebrating a goal???
Why do you keep pushing this nonsense about celebrating a goal?So no sympathy to a young Rangers fan caught up in the momment celebrating a goal???
Why do you keep pushing this nonsense about celebrating a goal?
There were another few thousand in the stand who never got 'caught up on the moment'.
He broke the rules, he has been banned and told to get back to club after court hearing.
Whats the issue?
Whats pathetic?Pathetic.
Are you the type that phoned the grass a Bear line?
Pathetic.
Are you the type that phoned the grass a Bear line?
The most vocal PR warriors don’t appear to like the club protecting its image.I don’t see how folk can defend the lad here.
If everyone of us went on the park after a late winner, the game would be abandoned.
The guy was stupid and is now paying the price for it. The club are clearly starting to protect its image and are clamping down on idiots.
Except it was a pre planned pitch invasion that happened a few times previously and funnily enough hasn’t happened since.So no sympathy to a young Rangers fan caught up in the momment celebrating a goal???
I don't have any sympathy.So no sympathy to a young Rangers fan caught up in the momment celebrating a goal???
You don't seem to be grasping this "rules" thing.Pathetic.
Are you the type that phoned the grass a Bear line?
I don’t see how folk can defend the lad here.
If everyone of us went on the park after a late winner, the game would be abandoned.
The guy was stupid and is now paying the price for it. The club are clearly starting to protect its image and are clamping down on idiots.
A couple of bannings cured running on the pitch Tourette’s? David Martin miracle worker and healer.Except it was a pre planned pitch invasion that happened a few times previously and funnily enough hasn’t happened since.
You don't seem to be grasping this "rules" thing.
I don’t see how folk can defend the lad here.
If everyone of us went on the park after a late winner, the game would be abandoned.
The guy was stupid and is now paying the price for it. The club are clearly starting to protect its image and are clamping down on idiots.
Have you thought that maybe Rangers taken action before the court could see the court being lenient on him.Oh I get the rules mate. Tickets for events also ban filming, have you ever filmed a penalty on your phone, or witnessed anyone do it, did you tell on them?
The guy couldn't argue with some punishment. However, to be banned indefinitely and the tone of the email suggests they won't over turn it if found guilty, is harsh and uncalled for.
Whats pathetic?
Have you thought that maybe Rangers taken action before the court could see the court being lenient on him.
I'm sure losing his season ticket would be better than a a criminal record.