Eddie Howe - Biggest fraud in football?

[WinkieWATP]

From the BBC commentary:

Dominic Solanke has been on the pitch for 80-odd minutes now and I don't think I've written his name once. He's had one touch in the Watford penalty area.

and fell over the ball

 

[Blaze Of Glory]

No, but he should have "cashed out" on his growing reputation a year ago as he risks becoming just another mid table manager and will become less and less attractive to the big clubs as the new wave of young managers come through.

 

[Danger Zone]

Probably because of the job he’s done taking a club like Bournemouth to and staying in the EPL?

I think both parties need a change now though.

You mean Bournemouth aren’t big spending premier league regulars entitled to a mid table finish?

He’s done an excellent job with them. Remember when Jurgen Klopp ended up with a relegation scare at Dortmund?

 

[Clubdeckg]

Reminds me ,when Alan curbishley was manager of Charlton, he took them from 3rd tier to mid table epl ,,after a few years Charlton supporters thought he had taken as far as he could, so he walked and they went back to division 2

Always remember thinking their fans should be careful what they wish for! Other than a short stint at West Ham about 10 years ago i cant remember Curbishley having another job?

 

[final_straws]

I always think they are quite streaky. Go on poor runs & then suddenly turn it around with a run of wins.

The only valid criticism that can be levelled is his judgement in the transfer market. Several of the big spends havent worked & tbh it was quite baffling to chuck the amount of money they did on Ibe & Solanke in particular.

In the round though, he has done a cracking job over the years

 

[scott-nisbet]

Let's get it right, they've been rotten all season.

 

[Virgil Hilts]

Swapping out Leeds for Bournemouth would be great

 

[Galstonian Oranje]

He has done well. A very small insignificant club propped up and by sky's cash competing in the EPL

 

[SuffolkGer]

On another note, Pearson must be some motivator. They had a stat on Sky Sports that if you include his last run of games in Prem before Watford, hes only behind Klopp for most points in last 12 games or something like that

 

[ClockworkOrange]

I think if we're talking about the words "fraud" and "Bournemouth" in the same sentence it's that the hyperbole and hype on here about Solanke is now looking very, very misguided.

 

[TibbsyBear]

Defoe has a say in it as well.

 

[Graemeh89]

2-0 down at home to Watford. No idea how his reputation is so high down South?

He’s a great manager , was being tipped for England and arsenal upto recently , they are having a shocking season , but the job he has done there has been outstanding, people have very short memories.

 

[Clubdeckg]

Nigel Pearson on the other hand, doing a great job so far

 

[Vallance]

Probably just gone stale, been there too long.
His reputation is taking a hit now though.

 

[wilso10]

Looks like I’m on my own on this one then.

Be honest though, you simply looked at the result today and posted this thread clearly not knowing what he's achieved in the past with them, didn't you?

 

[GovanFront4]

Nothing screams deserves a bigger club like having your club in the relegation places

He should have left when his stock was high. No matter how well they were doing year on year, with their budget you know all it took was a few bad signings and they would be in trouble.

I think no matter what happens this season he will walk away. They won't sack him IMO.

 

[Leo_Ger]

You mean Bournemouth aren’t big spending premier league regulars entitled to a mid table finish?

He’s done an excellent job with them. Remember when Jurgen Klopp ended up with a relegation scare at Dortmund?

Klopp also got relegated with Mainz and failed to get them promoted again before getting the job at Dortmund but it was recognised what a great job he had done to get them to that level with their resources.

Eddie Howe has done a brilliant job with Bournemouth. If he coached in another country with a bit more perspective then he would have been hired by a bigger team. Unluckily for him, in the EPL just now, most of the big teams only hire super coaches or ex-players hoping they'll somehow become Guardiola's Barca because of that.

 

[Korova Milk Bar]

I just don’t like Bournemouth, I don’t know why really. Their stadium is an absolute shitehole even Fir Park is bigger.

 

[Graemeh89]

Spent £224,000,000 on transfers in 4 years to do nothing better than barely avoid relegation by the skin of their teeth year-on-year.

They finished 9th and then 12th just in the last couple seasons , hardly skin of their teeth. An embarrassing thread tbh.

 

[Blueranger45]

Nigel Pearson on the other hand, doing a great job so far

despite his obvious flaws, he never got enough credit for Leicester's Premier League win in 2015/16

not going to say he was the main reason but he definitely put the wheels in motion and was a good appointment for Watford at this point of the season

 

[DougieJones]

Solanke was a disaster for them. 19 million down the pan - imagine what our management team could do with that dough!

 

[Arminius]

A definite case of them out growing each other.

I think this is about the measure of it.

As the old saying goes, “familiarity breeds contempt”.

Probably best for both if they went separate ways.

As an aside, Nigel Pearson never seems to get the credit he deserves. He handed his successors at Leicester a pretty decent squad when he left them.

They won the league the very next season.

 

[DavieM]

I think his time at Bournemouth is up. It won't matter one jot the job he's done with Bournemouth in the past - there's no sentiment in the EPL. It's the here and now that matters and somebody will be brought in to try and patch up their sinking ship in the next week or so I would imagine.

 

[coplandrearl36]

Your bet down

Research shows he has 8 1st team squad players out injured, with 2 coming back after long lay off. Not a game to judge him on today.

 

[PortoyMortoy]

They finished 9th and then 12th just in the last couple seasons , hardly skin of their teeth. An embarrassing thread tbh.

In the Premier League they've finished 16th, 9th, 12th, 14th and are currently sitting 19th at the moment. Despite having a good core squad with players like Ake, Wilson, Brooks, Fraser and King they haven't been able to make progress outside of 1 season. That's completely on the manager, calling him the biggest fraud in football is too far but it's clear that he's barely a pl level manager if at all

 

[Anoldranger]

2-0 down at home to Watford. No idea how his reputation is so high down South?

You are clueless

 

[55degreesnorth]

Signing Dominic Solanke for 20 million quid must have lost him a lot of credit. He's not worth two Bob.

 

[ScouseHairline]

Jej

 

[bluetonic]

Spent £224,000,000 on transfers in 4 years to do nothing better than barely avoid relegation by the skin of their teeth year-on-year.

Sums up the EPL, disgusting amount of money

 

[Tito]

I would take him when gerrard leaves.

I’d rather Nigel Pearson. A criminally underrated manager

 

[Professor Yaffle]

Struggling now but over achieved for years

 

[GeckoBear29]

Is there not a certain point in the window they’d have to do it? I’d imagine if they were going to they’d have to inform us their intentions by x date

 

[Forza_Napoli]

Think his big money signings have mostly all flopped

That's has been there biggest problem Jordan ibe and dominic solanke just haven't worked out. It's a case of it all going stale there hes been there too long now

 

[stein and johnston]

Is it possible he could recall Defoe this January due to their league position.?
As it looks like the Solanke signing isn’t work out for them.

 

[Graemeh89]

In the Premier League they've finished 16th, 9th, 12th, 14th and are currently sitting 19th at the moment. Despite having a good core squad with players like Ake, Wilson, Brooks, Fraser and King they haven't been able to make progress outside of 1 season. That's completely on the manager, calling him the biggest fraud in football is too far but it's clear that he's barely a pl level manager if at all

Those core players you mentioned , Ake fair enough , however...

Wilson - 3 million from Coventry City.

Brooks - signed from Sheffield Utd , was on loan at non league Halifax town the previous season.

Fraser - 400k signing from the sheep.

King - Free Transfer from Blackburn.

its hardly a core of experienced pros who you would expect to compete at the top end of the premier league.

 

[Fondablondes]

2-0 down at home to Watford. No idea how his reputation is so high down South?

Harsh mate. He's done really well getting Bournemouth to the EPL and keeping them there.
I think calling him a fraud is too much to be honest, he's had them playing decent football over the piece.
All down to opinions though.

 

[walt mcmurty]

Spent £224,000,000 on transfers in 4 years to do nothing better than barely avoid relegation by the skin of their teeth year-on-year.

Shows the absurdity of the EPL .

 

[Giffnock bear]

Is this an accurate sum?
Incredible if true

They take in about 5 million in gate money and over 120 million in TV money. That's why they can spend so much.

 

[supersonic]

Spent £224,000,000 on transfers in 4 years to do nothing better than barely avoid relegation by the skin of their teeth year-on-year.

Just like every other premier league club then?

 

[SouthernGer]

Took them from the bottom league to the top league and have been there 4-5 years. Play in a stadium of 11,000 fans. Have been comfortable each season up until now.

Would say he’s done pretty well and would suggest the OP has a poor knowledge of English football.

 

[Davester]

The frauds are the Guardiola's of this world. Go round all the biggest clubs with the best players and open chequebooks. Would love to see Pearson and Howe and Klopp and Guardiola swap roles. Then assess after a season or two who's committing fraud. Would love to see Guardiola who has more money than him and his offspring will ever need to take a Burnley on, and show his management skills!

 

[Stewart clark]

This thread is incredible. What he has achieved is borderline miraculous. His big money signings have been his downfall, for what he’s done I hope he keeps them up but I think he should move on.

 

[ChristchurchBear]

Spent £224,000,000 on transfers in 4 years to do nothing better than barely avoid relegation by the skin of their teeth year-on-year.

Never realised they spent that amount

 

[BroomhouseBear]

He took Bournemouth from languishing in League 2 to the Premier League.

I’d say that’s why his reputation is so high.

And has kept them there, fairly comfortably, for a few years now.

Grossly unfair to call him a fraud. Another poster said both parties need a change now. No matter how hard working or well intentioned you are, if you’re in the same role for more than few years a complacency sets in. Even if it’s subconscious it’s there. He need a change and a different challenge. Bournemouth need someone with different ideas. That’s life.

 

[Sevenoaks Loyal]

The frauds are the Guardiola's of this world. Go round all the biggest clubs with the best players and open chequebooks. Would love to see Pearson and Howe and Klopp and Guardiola swap roles. Then assess after a season or two who's committing fraud. Would love to see Guardiola who has more money than him and his offspring will ever need to take a Burnley on, and show his management skills!

I think Guardiola’s medals show that he clearly isn’t a fraud . I think someone like Marco Silva could be described as a fraud

 

[Talktalk]

2-0 down at home to Watford. No idea how his reputation is so high down South?

Fishing on a Sunday that’s naugjty

 

[Blueranger45]

The frauds are the Guardiola's of this world. Go round all the biggest clubs with the best players and open chequebooks. Would love to see Pearson and Howe and Klopp and Guardiola swap roles. Then assess after a season or two who's committing fraud. Would love to see Guardiola who has more money than him and his offspring will ever need to take a Burnley on, and show his management skills!

Klopp has already done the "wee club, get them promoted, save them from relegation multiple times on a small budget before realising he needs to move on as there is nothing he could do" with Mainz

 

[jackstar]

OP is a mentallist. The job Howe has done at Bournemouth is bordering on miraculous. He should have had a bigger job by now

To be fair,Nigel Pearson is not a bad coach and they've been in good form since he came in and he'll take a lot of scalps.

 

[BaTmAn]

He's done remarkably well with a football club about the size of Pollok Juniors mate, but sometimes things become stale and you can do no more.

Possibly best for both parties if they parted ways now.

He'll be very high in demand if he does leave.

I was surprised he wasn't linked with the Arsenal job tbh. He's done a brilliant job but it's clear that things have gone stale.

Could have been a good shout for Everton as well.

 

[dennyperkins]

For Bournemouth to even reach the Premier League is incredible, but to still be there after 5 seasons is absolutely amazing!!