They're going to let member clubs vote on void vs current
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Haining84
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Cheers mate.
Not Sure
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https://news.stv.tv/sport/spfl-clubs-to-vote-on-season-end-but-premiership-not-clear-cut
The SPFL board will ask lower league clubs to vote to end their season prematurely but a call on the outcome of the Premiership won’t be made yet.
Instead, top flight clubs will be asked to give a vote on bringing the season to an end, but their decision will be used as the basis for further discussions with UEFA.
UEFA has warned associations they risk losing their Champions League and Europa League spots for next season if they call their top leagues without prior approval.
The SPFL is holding conference calls with all 42 clubs on Wednesday. It’s understood they will propose a resolution to vote on ending the season. Voting isn’t expected to take place on Wednesday.
Voiding the season is also being put to members but is not considered a realistic option as it would lead to contractual problems and possible litigation.
Football has been suspended since March following the coronavirus pandemic. The likelihood of any competitive action returning before August or even September is slim.
The prospect of going several months with no income could threaten the existence of some clubs.
However, if a decision is taken to end the season now, this would allow the governing body to hand out prize money for their final league placings.
In the Premiership, that would see Celtic crowned as champions, with Hearts facing automatic relegation, though that decision is not imminent.
But an instant decision on the lower leagues would see Dundee United promoted to the top flight as Championship winners. The club are currently 14 points clear at the top of the league.
Partick Thistle would be relegated from the Championship, while Raith Rovers move up from League 1.
Stranraer would drop into the fourth tier, with League 2 promoting Cove Rangers as champions.
Some clubs had pushed for league reconstruction during the crisis but there are no plans to change the format of the competition.
While lower league sides are expected to be widely supportive of ending the season and releasing funds, the Premiership decision would be more controversial.
Rangers have already warned they would challenge any decision to crown Celtic as champions, while Hearts would take legal action if they were to be relegated without having played all of their games.
The primary stumbling block though, is UEFA’s desire for all of Europe’s top leagues to act uniformly and after consultation with the governing body.
After Belgium ended their league and named a champion, UEFA threatened that leagues who acted unilaterally would risk losing Champions League and Europa League places.
However, UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin has since indicated leagues could decide to end early, though only after consultation with the hierachy in Nyon.
The SPFL board will ask lower league clubs to vote to end their season prematurely but a call on the outcome of the Premiership won’t be made yet.
Instead, top flight clubs will be asked to give a vote on bringing the season to an end, but their decision will be used as the basis for further discussions with UEFA.
UEFA has warned associations they risk losing their Champions League and Europa League spots for next season if they call their top leagues without prior approval.
The SPFL is holding conference calls with all 42 clubs on Wednesday. It’s understood they will propose a resolution to vote on ending the season. Voting isn’t expected to take place on Wednesday.
Voiding the season is also being put to members but is not considered a realistic option as it would lead to contractual problems and possible litigation.
Football has been suspended since March following the coronavirus pandemic. The likelihood of any competitive action returning before August or even September is slim.
The prospect of going several months with no income could threaten the existence of some clubs.
However, if a decision is taken to end the season now, this would allow the governing body to hand out prize money for their final league placings.
In the Premiership, that would see Celtic crowned as champions, with Hearts facing automatic relegation, though that decision is not imminent.
But an instant decision on the lower leagues would see Dundee United promoted to the top flight as Championship winners. The club are currently 14 points clear at the top of the league.
Partick Thistle would be relegated from the Championship, while Raith Rovers move up from League 1.
Stranraer would drop into the fourth tier, with League 2 promoting Cove Rangers as champions.
Some clubs had pushed for league reconstruction during the crisis but there are no plans to change the format of the competition.
While lower league sides are expected to be widely supportive of ending the season and releasing funds, the Premiership decision would be more controversial.
Rangers have already warned they would challenge any decision to crown Celtic as champions, while Hearts would take legal action if they were to be relegated without having played all of their games.
The primary stumbling block though, is UEFA’s desire for all of Europe’s top leagues to act uniformly and after consultation with the governing body.
After Belgium ended their league and named a champion, UEFA threatened that leagues who acted unilaterally would risk losing Champions League and Europa League places.
However, UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin has since indicated leagues could decide to end early, though only after consultation with the hierachy in Nyon.
DejaVoodoo
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If this process is not in the rule book, then we have an avenue to challenge this in court/CAS.
bluereason
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What a bunch of lowlife cowards. Too scared to make a decision themselves and try to take the spotlight off them to try and avoid any responsibility. Absolutely no chance. Its still their decision to just make up some poxy vote to decide an unfinished league. Asterisked to %^*&. If this is true the club should abstain from the vote and say they will be taking legal action. Its UNFINISHED, they can be caught!
Corby
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Would not surprise me in the slightest.
bLuE PirAtE
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Our supporters are as thick as mince. They get fuked over and will still give these clubs their money.
sg9375
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The f.uckers will change that rule to suit the filth. Certain of it.
ClockworkOrange
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Absolute bullshit.
Why are the Rangers support still hiding behind asterisks, exceptions and whataboutery?
This kind of deflection - you've literally said that Celtic should have it - does not help our club moving forward.
It's insular, tribal and really unhelpful.
Luca Stroppi
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Exactly, the corruption should at least be made transparent if they go down this road. We MUST demand the ballot is open to see how every club voted, we all know the result would be a foregone conclusion but at least have the balls to be open about your individual club’s decision and we can take it from there.
DejaVoodoo
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The Club could offer to divide the prize money equally across the 12 clubs based on a successful null and void vote.
Surely that would sway a few to vote our way.
Surely that would sway a few to vote our way.
Xavi Hernandez
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That'd be how they've decided on this you never ask a question you don't already know the answer to. Can just hear it "This strategy, recommend to the decisions committee by the interim working group of the special circumstances(Pandemics Section) task force on the way forward for Scotshit Football rightly gives everyone an equal voice and we make no apology for that in these times when we should all put personal issues aside and think of the common good. Did I do good, Peter?"
tsa57
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I wouldn't like the SPFL to decide and going to the 42 clubs is fair in a way. We know the spfl would have said the paedos are champs, Hearts relegated, Scum Utd to get promoted and so on.
This vote is a chance for all these clubs to say void due to the fact that they never ever did get what was promised to them in 2012. Good chance for them to screw the spfl in my opinion.
But calls will have been made to gauge thoughts and probably promises too.
This vote is a chance for all these clubs to say void due to the fact that they never ever did get what was promised to them in 2012. Good chance for them to screw the spfl in my opinion.
But calls will have been made to gauge thoughts and probably promises too.
Hibs will surely vote against any "current position" proposal.
The Hibs board of directors have already stated.
"This re-affirms the view of the board that the sporting integrity of the SPL is of paramount importance.
The board is also acutely aware that in making this decision, Hibernian - like other clubs in the SPL - will suffer collateral financial damage at a time of severe economic hardship and uncertainty."
Such high moral standards have to be applauded, they will almost certainly not have changed their minds on this stance. Or will they?
The Hibs board of directors have already stated.
"This re-affirms the view of the board that the sporting integrity of the SPL is of paramount importance.
The board is also acutely aware that in making this decision, Hibernian - like other clubs in the SPL - will suffer collateral financial damage at a time of severe economic hardship and uncertainty."
Such high moral standards have to be applauded, they will almost certainly not have changed their minds on this stance. Or will they?
LewisRob2009
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They'll end up doing some sh1te like 2012 by passing the onus onto fans of each club.
sw26
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So if the STV report is to be believed, we are just expecting Partick to say ‘aye go on then’ to getting relegated despite being 2 points behind 2nd bottom with a game in hand?
Ayr/Dundee/Inverness just to be ok with not getting a crack at the Premiership via the playoffs? Or the others who could still qualify for the playoffs which is most of the Championship?
Maybe they are truly fighting for survival financially and will just go along with it but I’m not so sure.
Ayr/Dundee/Inverness just to be ok with not getting a crack at the Premiership via the playoffs? Or the others who could still qualify for the playoffs which is most of the Championship?
Maybe they are truly fighting for survival financially and will just go along with it but I’m not so sure.
JohnBrownsboot
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Shengus Malengus
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It's an "either or vote" and not a vote for restructuring etc.
They could easy word it as voting for null and void and then it would be us who'd require 11 votes.
Either way, it's corrupt and we all know what the outcome is, if this is true.
SDF
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That is an incredible deriliction of duty by the SPFL if true.
Not will they rely on others to make the decision for them, they're even shiteing it from deciding on the Premiership altogether.
Simply put, any club voting to give Celtic a title they have not won should never receive a single penny from our support again.
Has anyone actually came out and explained why it’s not a realistic option.
Any loss of revenue or legal challenges will equally apply to calling the season on current standings.
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IF this was the case, it really would be time for the club to refuse away tickets.
If they vote for current standings in the 3 lower leagues, does that mean Dundee United come up no matter what the top league do?
Or if the top league then still say null and void does that mean Dundee United would win the Championship but not get promoted?
Or if the top league then still say null and void does that mean Dundee United would win the Championship but not get promoted?
sw26
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Official:
spfl.co.uk
SPFL clubs to vote on curtailment of Ladbrokes SPFL Season 2019/20 | SPFL
SPFL clubs are to vote on a resolution recommending the termination of the 2019/20 season in the Ladbrokes Championship, Ladbrokes League 1 and Ladbrokes League 2
blue barney
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So liewell will be on the phone to all his pals in the other clubs. We’ve been here before
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
However, if a decision is taken to end the season now, this would allow the governing body to hand out prize money for their final league placings.
In the Premiership, that would see Celtic crowned as champions, with Hearts facing automatic relegation, though that decision is not imminent.
This is nonsense. Abandoning/terminating etc etc the league and paying out prize money does not equate to declaring titles and relegations. They can pay out place money - but not prizes. It is not inextricably linked.
In the Premiership, that would see Celtic crowned as champions, with Hearts facing automatic relegation, though that decision is not imminent.
This is nonsense. Abandoning/terminating etc etc the league and paying out prize money does not equate to declaring titles and relegations. They can pay out place money - but not prizes. It is not inextricably linked.
Official:
SPFL clubs to vote on curtailment of Ladbrokes SPFL Season 2019/20 | SPFL
SPFL clubs are to vote on a resolution recommending the termination of the 2019/20 season in the Ladbrokes Championship, Ladbrokes League 1 and Ladbrokes League 2
Based on average points per game, exactly ax Lennon said it should be done right at the start.
What a coincidence.
It’s absolutely incredible how this has been twisted to suit the agenda of one club.
Every complication that could arise from null and void will equally apply to calling the season on current standings. Loss of revenue, legal challenges from member clubs etc.
The only difference being that null and void would allow all member clubs a bigger share of the prize distribution rather than the majority of it being handed to the club at the top who haven’t even earned it.
SDF
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From the SPFL web site. How the leagues will look if the decision to end the season now is passed.
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
Gibraltar Loyal
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sw26
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Just done a quick calculation for the Premiership, only change to the current standings is it would put St Johnstone above Hibs into sixth given they’ve played a game less and marginally more PPG.
1. Them 2.67
2. Rangers 2.31
3. Motherwell 1.53
4. Aberdeen 1.5
5. Livingston 1.3
6. St Johnstone 1.24
7. Hibs 1.23
8. Kilmarnock 1.1
9. St Mirren 0.97
10. Ross County 0.97
11. Hamilton 0.9
12. Hearts 0.77
SecondBestIsNothing
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A lot of mid-table teams will vote in favour of it because it’s easy for them. Get their money and move on.
LewisRob2009
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exactly.
Safe to say we know what's coming next. Champion Club of the Premiership...
the other quote in the article is telling:
"If the resolution is approved, the SPFL has also committed to consulting with Clubs over the possibility of League restructuring ahead of Season 2020/21"
Don't worry Hearts, St Mirren etc, you won't get relegated.
Its going that way
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
They can't, it's not finished yet-----Oh wait a minute
You can be sure next season will start with 3 Scottish Cup games held over from this season. Without a doubt.
SDF
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Spot on.
Yahoos handed the title, Hearts saved and a 14 team league for season 20/21
Official:
SPFL clubs to vote on curtailment of Ladbrokes SPFL Season 2019/20 | SPFL
SPFL clubs are to vote on a resolution recommending the termination of the 2019/20 season in the Ladbrokes Championship, Ladbrokes League 1 and Ladbrokes League 2
So null and void isn’t even an option.
It’s basically settle on current standings to allow payouts to be distributed or continue to postpone the leagues.
We all know how that vote is going to go. They are basically dangling a financial carrot in front of clubs to make them call the league as it is.
The only teams that will be against this is us, maybe Falkirk and any teams sitting in relegation places who still have a chance of staying up.
The vast majority of teams will vote this through without hesitation just to get their hands on the scraps from the mentally challenged table.
Sickening stuff.
KGR98
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Not exactly fair as they will have played some potentially weaker sides 3 times and we have played them 2 times should be taken back to the halfway stage and the average points taken from there but there's an obvious reason that won't be done
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