punk
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That is brilliant and shocking
Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)
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punk
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You and everyone else involved in this must keep their mental health in check. Its hard dealing with something so mentally draining everyday. I should know, so take good care of your emotions guys
I know you’ve been following this for a long time punk and it’s a very good point you bring up. We have the correct people in place to deal with this. The stories are horrendous and will come out very soon. I must also add that there is a long way to go and each individual involved with Spotlight gets more determined when we hear the sad stories. How that club is still operating is beyond us.
Milligan?
punk
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Take care mate
KYBear_74
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A1bertz
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They don't want to be put into a position where there is pressure to hand down any football sanctions.
cm72
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He was one of them aye
mentally challenged from Govan.
Malbec
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Were there any other persons from that LGBT group involved in this relationship?
RangersForever
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And some of the same people who knew about or were involved in what was happening at Ceptic were also embedded in positions of power at the SFA, so could lead to punishment for their own organisation.
Grigo Yossarian
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Rennie.
That’s what Henry’s company was, I’m pretty sure, and he couldn’t spot one of the most perverse members of Scotland’s biggest ever convicted paedophile ring sitting 10 yards from him every day.
Grigo Yossarian
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Just talking to others in the team. It was in LGBT Youth Scotland and it’s quite interesting, because Henry was appointed Director & Rennie the secretary. ON THE SAME DAY.
Looks extremely likely that they KNEW each other before this group, as they started it & went into those roles on 27 February, 2003.
The newspaper article about the Rennie & Strachan convictions is interesting. It says they were the ‘ringleaders’ of an 8 person paedophile group.
Yet Henry led the SFA Review.
Noddy
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Unbelievable.
Grigo Yossarian
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Agree Noddy. SFA Review Leader.
cm72
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I remember one of his chats, about an auld firm game. To one of the other lot, he told him he's not meeting up cos he's watching the game,the reply was why sit and watch 11 dicks in rangers tops when you can come see mines. Filthy scum bastard. He was guilty for me no matter what after that lol.
Noddy
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You honestly couldn't make this up. If you seen it in a movie you would say it was far fetched and that it would never happen.
Grigo Yossarian
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100% mate.
mountloyal
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Devils advocate (again). Would the scum not use such an article to claim the exclusion of the Boys Club would indicate it was not part of their entity?
Simply a Bear
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These coincidences seem to pop up very often in relation to this scandal.
BlueBaloo
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The seperate entity pish has been disproved several hundred times and I doubt very much "seperate entity" will hold water in any court in the land given the mountainous evidence to the contrary
mountloyal
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We know its pish. The thing is, it is their entire defence, it would seem. The article I refer to and the reason I refer to it is that they will also claim there is "mountainous evidence" disproving they were the same entity. They will be using the best law brains money can buy. A court case will not be a walkover. I suspect Thompsons would have had them in court long ago if they thought it was cut and dry. The slimy bastards will defend themselves to the bitter end despite the distress they will cause the victims.
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BlueBaloo
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I think they will struggle to disprove a bucketload of evidence from their own official club magazine.
The physical and mental wellbeing of the victims is paramount too but this filthy club will go down
I believe the team are ready to go the full distance on this
This is a marathon ....patience
mountloyal
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Mate I hope you are 100% corect. My point is we, on here, are seeing all the evidence against.
I suspect their legal team/whores will have been amassing loads of evidence in their favour.
BlueBaloo
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Loads?
If seperate entity is all they have they will be laughed out of court
However....I also suspect they are going to pull something.
A post on page one..
Still bothers me
Beer Belly Loyal
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Bring-on-56
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Henry has been appointed to compile this report primarily because of his background in failing to spot child abuse. Reason being if it’s disputed after it’s released by the SFA they have Henry as a patsy, ready and willing to take the barrage of abuse onboard. What other organisation would appoint such an individual with such glaring failings in their background to compile such an important report. They want it to be a house of cards abs should it fall they’ll happily all be standing pointing in Henry’s direction.
You’re right. Of course they will.
Lurgan Loyal
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Name change in 94?
BlueBaloo
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Le Big Bear Bum
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Explains why they hate him.
mountloyal
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I think I know what you refer to. Prempted what was going to happen back in 94.
Wisnae us. Any case should be against old club.
Lucifer666
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There’s no such thing as coincidence when it comes to these kind of cnuts
Ex-boys club boss ‘abused players inside Celtic Park’ — The Times and The Sunday Times
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal. Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in...
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A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal.
Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in court later this month.
Mr Cairney, of Uddingston, South Lanarkshire, has been charged with sexually and physically abusing three teenagers over an 11-year period.
It is claimed that he attacked the youths on a number of occasions between 1978 and 1989 within “Celtic Park football ground, Parkhead”, Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow, a hotel room in Aviemore in the Highlands and in a car.
An indictment, seen by The Times, alleges that on various occasions between February 1, 1986 and December 31, 1988, Mr Cairney indecently assaulted a youth, then aged between 15 and 18, at Celtic Park and Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted another youth, aged between 15 and 16, “within a car in Paisley and within a car and the dressing rooms at Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow”, between July 1, 1978 and June 30, 1979.
Between the same dates he is also said to have repeatedly punched and slapped the boy on the head and body in a dressing room at Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted a third youth, aged between 15 and 16, “at a hotel room in Aviemore and within a car in Cumbernauld” on a number of occasions between August 1, 1988 and June 30, 1989. He denies all the charges.
Celtic Boys’ Club took part in a series of tournaments held in Aviemore over a number of years.
Barrowfield, which is next to Parkhead, was used as a training ground by both Celtic FC and the boys’ club at the time of the alleged incidents. It is still owned by the club.
Mr Cairney took over as manager of Celtic Boys’ Club in 1974, replacing Jim Torbett, the founder of the feeder club.
Mr Cairney resigned from the club in 1991 after leading 20 teenagers and five adults on a summer tour to New Jersey.
On July 29, 1994, the Celtic View, the club magazine, lauded Mr Cairney as “one of the great unsung heroes of the Celtic story”.
He is scheduled to appear at Glasgow sheriff court on October 30.
Snakehips
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Surely they would not have the brass neck to turn round and say they are a ‘new club’? To evade any responsibility based on a ‘technicality’?
Then the argument against that is why do they still celebrate and count their honours before ‘94? Why would they have a replica of the European Cup in their stadium when it was won by a ’different‘ club? If they want to say they are not the same club then they would effectively be renouncing their history before 1994, in order to evade justice for abused kids. Even for them, that would be low, and very very desperate.
If they want to play that game then fine. They will lose. However, for as long as they call us Sevco, they will be now known as Paedco. I know what I would rather be known as.
StirlingBear
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Was just reading through the last couple of pages and the 'seperate entity' line being peddled by Celtic appears to be working a lot better than many in this thread think.
Look at the new charges being brought against Cairney and how they are being reported in the article posted above. The term being used is 'feeder club' which suggests it has only a small connection to the club when in fact everyone knows it was Celtics youth team.
It seems that a lot of work has gone into blowing the lid off this horrible pedophile ring but the scary thing is nobody seems to want to shine a light on it. Imagine being a victim of this. It must be like trying to scream for help but nothing comes out like in some sort of horrible nightmare.
Look at the new charges being brought against Cairney and how they are being reported in the article posted above. The term being used is 'feeder club' which suggests it has only a small connection to the club when in fact everyone knows it was Celtics youth team.
It seems that a lot of work has gone into blowing the lid off this horrible pedophile ring but the scary thing is nobody seems to want to shine a light on it. Imagine being a victim of this. It must be like trying to scream for help but nothing comes out like in some sort of horrible nightmare.
Lucifer666
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It’s just a revolving door of peados with them. I’m could be talking about Celtic or the Roman Catholic Cult here. I’m an Atheist but I hope there’s a hell for these f&ckers.
Ex-boys club boss ‘abused players inside Celtic Park’ — The Times and The Sunday Times
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal. Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in...
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal.
Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in court later this month.
Mr Cairney, of Uddingston, South Lanarkshire, has been charged with sexually and physically abusing three teenagers over an 11-year period.
It is claimed that he attacked the youths on a number of occasions between 1978 and 1989 within “Celtic Park football ground, Parkhead”, Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow, a hotel room in Aviemore in the Highlands and in a car.
An indictment, seen by The Times, alleges that on various occasions between February 1, 1986 and December 31, 1988, Mr Cairney indecently assaulted a youth, then aged between 15 and 18, at Celtic Park and Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted another youth, aged between 15 and 16, “within a car in Paisley and within a car and the dressing rooms at Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow”, between July 1, 1978 and June 30, 1979.
Between the same dates he is also said to have repeatedly punched and slapped the boy on the head and body in a dressing room at Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted a third youth, aged between 15 and 16, “at a hotel room in Aviemore and within a car in Cumbernauld” on a number of occasions between August 1, 1988 and June 30, 1989. He denies all the charges.
Celtic Boys’ Club took part in a series of tournaments held in Aviemore over a number of years.
Barrowfield, which is next to Parkhead, was used as a training ground by both Celtic FC and the boys’ club at the time of the alleged incidents. It is still owned by the club.
Mr Cairney took over as manager of Celtic Boys’ Club in 1974, replacing Jim Torbett, the founder of the feeder club.
Mr Cairney resigned from the club in 1991 after leading 20 teenagers and five adults on a summer tour to New Jersey.
On July 29, 1994, the Celtic View, the club magazine, lauded Mr Cairney as “one of the great unsung heroes of the Celtic story”.
He is scheduled to appear at Glasgow sheriff court on October 30.
Madjid Moments
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I don’t think it’ll be too difficult for any decent lawyer to quickly dismiss the separate entity myth and put them in their rightful accountable place.
BlueBearette
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Hopefully he’ll get locked up for the rest of his days.Ex-boys club boss ‘abused players inside Celtic Park’ — The Times and The Sunday Times
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal. Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in...
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal.
Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in court later this month.
Mr Cairney, of Uddingston, South Lanarkshire, has been charged with sexually and physically abusing three teenagers over an 11-year period.
It is claimed that he attacked the youths on a number of occasions between 1978 and 1989 within “Celtic Park football ground, Parkhead”, Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow, a hotel room in Aviemore in the Highlands and in a car.
An indictment, seen by The Times, alleges that on various occasions between February 1, 1986 and December 31, 1988, Mr Cairney indecently assaulted a youth, then aged between 15 and 18, at Celtic Park and Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted another youth, aged between 15 and 16, “within a car in Paisley and within a car and the dressing rooms at Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow”, between July 1, 1978 and June 30, 1979.
Between the same dates he is also said to have repeatedly punched and slapped the boy on the head and body in a dressing room at Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted a third youth, aged between 15 and 16, “at a hotel room in Aviemore and within a car in Cumbernauld” on a number of occasions between August 1, 1988 and June 30, 1989. He denies all the charges.
Celtic Boys’ Club took part in a series of tournaments held in Aviemore over a number of years.
Barrowfield, which is next to Parkhead, was used as a training ground by both Celtic FC and the boys’ club at the time of the alleged incidents. It is still owned by the club.
Mr Cairney took over as manager of Celtic Boys’ Club in 1974, replacing Jim Torbett, the founder of the feeder club.
Mr Cairney resigned from the club in 1991 after leading 20 teenagers and five adults on a summer tour to New Jersey.
On July 29, 1994, the Celtic View, the club magazine, lauded Mr Cairney as “one of the great unsung heroes of the Celtic story”.
He is scheduled to appear at Glasgow sheriff court on October 30.
Snakehips
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It was a slightly bizarre appointment, given the association with Rennie (and subsequent association with Strachan), and the cynic in all of us must surely have questioned whether this was a deliberate plot, given he had also worked with the Catholic Church. It is easy to see a conspiracy here, especially when all the dots join up far too neatly.
However, I am inclined, or rather hoping, to think that he will not be party to any whitewash. He has been involved in Child Protection services for nearly 30 years, with councils and the police amongst others, so you would hope it would be unlikely that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Taking the Rennie association out of the equation, which could just have been bad luck or naivety on his part, on paper it seems like a standard appointment, given his experience.
He has also made fairly decent, if limited, noises regarding the SFA review so far. If he has submitted it, then the current hold up is probably not on him. It is a little concerning though, if as I remember, that testimonies have reportedly been omitted from the report.
Until we see the actual review, then I suppose the jury is out on him.
Snakehips
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Their PR can spin the ‘feeder club’ line in the media all they want. It won’t make a blind bit of difference in the courts. As BN94 and others have proved with hundreds of press clippings, mainly from their own magazine, it was their youth team. They said it themselves on many, many occasions. Celtic paid the youth club management, and hired and fired the youth club management. It was ultimately their responsibility, and they benefited from it in players coming through the ranks. They shared facilities, staff, functions, strips, crests, everything.
I am not religious, nor would I want this to sound overly dramatic, but all we can do is hope good triumphs over evil. And what went on at that club, from the acts, to the cover ups, to the current denials of responsibility, are truly evil.
Yet their fans foam at the mouth over referees, numbered resolutions, conspiracies, foreign wars, the media, etc. All the while saying not a word against the past or present behaviour of their club, as if it is not real. All their social justice warriors should be at the door of their stadium, demanding they do the right thing.
I’ve said this before: any Celtic fan who steps foot in the stadium, or buys a season ticket, or wears a strip, yet refuses to take a stand against that club, is effectively condoning paedophilia.
Shame on them.
Huckleberry
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No matter what terminology is used, Celtic FC are responsible for the victims abused in their care. Their dereliction of duty is known, the integrity of the whole business is questionable . The cover up by individuals and organisations associated with Celtic FC is truly despicable. Hopefully now is the time to uncover the magnitude of abuse carried out for decades and the extent it has had on all affected. Justice for the victims, accountability for the shameless institution.
Lucifer666
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Well said Huck, as ever
Simply a Bear
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Ex-boys club boss ‘abused players inside Celtic Park’ — The Times and The Sunday Times
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal. Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in...
A former senior figure at Celtic FC’s feeder club has been charged with carrying out sexual abuse at Parkhead and a training ground used by first-team players, The Times can reveal.
Frank Cairney, 85, served as general manager of Celtic Boys’ Club from 1974 until 1991 and is due to appear in court later this month.
Mr Cairney, of Uddingston, South Lanarkshire, has been charged with sexually and physically abusing three teenagers over an 11-year period.
It is claimed that he attacked the youths on a number of occasions between 1978 and 1989 within “Celtic Park football ground, Parkhead”, Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow, a hotel room in Aviemore in the Highlands and in a car.
An indictment, seen by The Times, alleges that on various occasions between February 1, 1986 and December 31, 1988, Mr Cairney indecently assaulted a youth, then aged between 15 and 18, at Celtic Park and Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted another youth, aged between 15 and 16, “within a car in Paisley and within a car and the dressing rooms at Barrowfield training ground, Glasgow”, between July 1, 1978 and June 30, 1979.
Between the same dates he is also said to have repeatedly punched and slapped the boy on the head and body in a dressing room at Barrowfield.
Mr Cairney is also alleged to have indecently assaulted a third youth, aged between 15 and 16, “at a hotel room in Aviemore and within a car in Cumbernauld” on a number of occasions between August 1, 1988 and June 30, 1989. He denies all the charges.
Celtic Boys’ Club took part in a series of tournaments held in Aviemore over a number of years.
Barrowfield, which is next to Parkhead, was used as a training ground by both Celtic FC and the boys’ club at the time of the alleged incidents. It is still owned by the club.
Mr Cairney took over as manager of Celtic Boys’ Club in 1974, replacing Jim Torbett, the founder of the feeder club.
Mr Cairney resigned from the club in 1991 after leading 20 teenagers and five adults on a summer tour to New Jersey.
On July 29, 1994, the Celtic View, the club magazine, lauded Mr Cairney as “one of the great unsung heroes of the Celtic story”.
He is scheduled to appear at Glasgow sheriff court on October 3
Is it possible to start an inquiry without affecting live legal cases?
If so, they should start now.
Horrific.
Lucifer666
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Just posted this on the other thread but it’s equally valid here.
If this stuff was coming out about Rangers, I would never set foot in Ibrox (if it wasn’t locked down) until the board answered for this and if separate entity was the best they could come up with then my 40+ year love affair with Rangers would finish.
We would still have guys like BN and Grigo digging up the truth but as far as I’m aware they have no decent moral fans prepared to stand up and question the clubs stance on this denial of accountability and justice.
If this stuff was coming out about Rangers, I would never set foot in Ibrox (if it wasn’t locked down) until the board answered for this and if separate entity was the best they could come up with then my 40+ year love affair with Rangers would finish.
We would still have guys like BN and Grigo digging up the truth but as far as I’m aware they have no decent moral fans prepared to stand up and question the clubs stance on this denial of accountability and justice.
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