I don't remember him ever taking one.
Most of the 70s we had Sandy Jardine and Alex Miller taking them.
1970 League Cup Final
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I don't remember him ever taking one.
Most of the 70s we had Sandy Jardine and Alex Miller taking them.
BLUEBEAR68
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Still have piles and piles of these old cards in the house in boxes long before Panini came on the scene and your right you could scratch the back of them to get certain players images on them, Don't think they all had it, I've got tea packets from the 30s with fotball cards in them got them off my late grandfather years ago old typhoon and brooke bond, even have caricatures with Willie Waddell and George young from pipe tobacco, Capstain Full strength had English players in them at one time only have ten of those though.My first ever Rangers memory. Had a football card with pic of the pitch and terracing that you could superimpose a transfer of DJ on (by rubbing the back with a coin). Does anyone else remember these, or is the dementia kicking in
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Rangerista
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Do you know that in 4 years the meeting with that shower lost over 70,000 fans?
The Meik's Crombie
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My first time too. I have always had a soft spot for the League Cup. However time to concentrate on tonight as a victory is vital.
the upsetter
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My second cup final after the Scottish Cup Final the season before against them.Helped erase some painful memories .
Willie Johnston on fire and topping it all by sitting on the ball....Jim Craig had had enough by that stage.
Punching my dad as I jumped up with arms spread when DJ's header hit the net...also my first sight of tim on tim violence as they fought amongst themselves at their end of the ground.
Soaking wet day and important as the first trophy to come to Ibrox for a few years.
Waddell was the manager but I think Jock Wallace was the one who really got the players pumped up for that one.Anyone else recall stories of Jock hosing the players down with freezing cold water before getting into their strips before kick off or have I got that wrong ?
Willie Johnston on fire and topping it all by sitting on the ball....Jim Craig had had enough by that stage.
Punching my dad as I jumped up with arms spread when DJ's header hit the net...also my first sight of tim on tim violence as they fought amongst themselves at their end of the ground.
Soaking wet day and important as the first trophy to come to Ibrox for a few years.
Waddell was the manager but I think Jock Wallace was the one who really got the players pumped up for that one.Anyone else recall stories of Jock hosing the players down with freezing cold water before getting into their strips before kick off or have I got that wrong ?
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instructor
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We had been second fiddle to Celtic for a few years and my brother and I as kids listened to the match on a large radiogram with my parents, sadly no longer here. I can still remember Johnstone's goal going in. It was a tremendous feeling that we had beaten them to win a cup.
ao2
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We had been second fiddle to Celtic for a few years and my brother and I as kids listened to the match on a large radiogram with my parents, sadly no longer here. I can still remember Johnstone's goal going in. It was a tremendous feeling that we had beaten them to win a cup.
David Francie commentating? Those were the days when you only got the last 5 minutes of the first half and the whole of the second on the radio, and definitely no live TV!!!! My main memory of it was of going into school on the Monday and us all raving about this lad of 16 who'd won the cup, the first I could actually remember us winning.
gi joe
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David Francie commentary?
o7o
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He did
No Hiding Place
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That game started Cel**c on a run of losing 7 finals out of 8 between 1970 and 1978.
huistra23
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First game,we beat Cowdenbeath 5=2,DJ scored twice,at Ibrox
huistra23
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Capped as a centre half,midfield,and striker
Grigo Yossarian
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Murphy is right, he definitely played v Cowdenbeath.
Bluebear72
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McDougall was “farmed out” to Pollok and despite being. Midfielder by trade played up front for the Juniors and scored close to 50 goals in that season before returning to the Gers
He got done by a Hibs player shortly (McEwan?) after his first start with us which if I remember was against a good Ayr team. We won 3-1 ,McDonald scored and made one ,he was unplayable that day. The best first game I have seen from any player who came through our youth system.
I was just a youngster at the time and recall the Retard had carried out a straw poll of other club captains or hacks (can't recall for sure) on the day of the match and they all had the bheasts to win (celtc10 Rangers 0 was the back page banner headline).
On the Monday morning the back page banner was Rangers 1 celtc 0.
A memorable result as we hadn't won anything since the 1966 Scottish cup final.
On the Monday morning the back page banner was Rangers 1 celtc 0.
A memorable result as we hadn't won anything since the 1966 Scottish cup final.
thevietnambear
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I was crossing the Atlantic from West Africa to Jacksonville, USA on the mv Dalla a general cargo ship of Elder Dempster Line when the 2nd Engineer from Belfast told me Rangers had won 1 - 0 , we had a wee drink that night to celebrate.
stonewall Jackson
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DJ was a magnificent player and a proper Centre Forward. He was really that good its was a tragedy when he had to retire early in his career due to attitude and fitness problems.
Truckerman
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I remember the match well I was 17 at the time 10 months older than big DJ, it poured with rain that day and me and my mates all went to the game in Crichton st bus which left ftom the Orange hall in Coatbridge.
I think there was a 100,000 at the game?, after final whistle and all the celebrations I lost my mates in the crowd.
Not being savvy with Glasgow then ,I couldn't find my bus so I started to make my way to the city centre, I walked down Cathcart Rd ( big mistake) and reached just about where the new motorway is now and got attacked by 6/7 scum, they hit me with a bottle, luckily I had one of those duffle coats with the fur round the hood which softened the blow, but they got a few kicks into me.
A wee wifie ran across the road and started to batter them with her shopping bag and the wee cowards ran away towards the Gorbals.
2 middle class bears in their big Rover car saw it and stopped and gave me a lift to High st station to get a train back to Coatbridge, they told me to put my scarf and tammy in to my pocket , that was my memory of that LC final, I still shiver at what could have happened to me if it wasn’t for the wee wifie and the 2 Bears
I think there was a 100,000 at the game?, after final whistle and all the celebrations I lost my mates in the crowd.
Not being savvy with Glasgow then ,I couldn't find my bus so I started to make my way to the city centre, I walked down Cathcart Rd ( big mistake) and reached just about where the new motorway is now and got attacked by 6/7 scum, they hit me with a bottle, luckily I had one of those duffle coats with the fur round the hood which softened the blow, but they got a few kicks into me.
A wee wifie ran across the road and started to batter them with her shopping bag and the wee cowards ran away towards the Gorbals.
2 middle class bears in their big Rover car saw it and stopped and gave me a lift to High st station to get a train back to Coatbridge, they told me to put my scarf and tammy in to my pocket , that was my memory of that LC final, I still shiver at what could have happened to me if it wasn’t for the wee wifie and the 2 Bears
mulguy1953
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Remember the game well was there & unfortunately we ended up in a barny after the game with a crowd of Tim's from the Drum , only our crowd got lifted , fined ,bla ,bla.
A few years later wee Bud, ( who sat on the ball that day ), told me the players got the day off on the Monday & when they returned on the Tuesday for training, bud gets called to the managers office.
Waddel ,sits there with a huge pile of letters on his desk. ???
He says to Bud " Willie this is not fan mail "
The hoards had been complaining about his ungentlemanly conduct.
Now I know Bud gave Jim Craig a roasting that day but if memorie serves me right it was Jimmy Johnstone he was " taunting " when he sat on the ball.!!!
So many great memories from that day,
Big Ronnie lifting the cup
DJ,s goal.
Colin Stein hitting the post.
And Bud sitting " oan the ba"
A few years later wee Bud, ( who sat on the ball that day ), told me the players got the day off on the Monday & when they returned on the Tuesday for training, bud gets called to the managers office.
Waddel ,sits there with a huge pile of letters on his desk. ???
He says to Bud " Willie this is not fan mail "
The hoards had been complaining about his ungentlemanly conduct.
Now I know Bud gave Jim Craig a roasting that day but if memorie serves me right it was Jimmy Johnstone he was " taunting " when he sat on the ball.!!!
So many great memories from that day,
Big Ronnie lifting the cup
DJ,s goal.
Colin Stein hitting the post.
And Bud sitting " oan the ba"
rangers1962
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It’s strange that I can remember being in the Toby jug after the game and at HT at hamdump they played band of gold. Ffs can’t even remember last weekend
Ardoyne RSC
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That is amazing. Apart from the girlfriend, that is exactly what my experience was, including the bit about being close to the fence (the same fence) with my big brother, and the 69 cup final. I was a bit older though, about 14.
bigTAM weeTAM
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Absolutely. Gave everything for 10 years or so 1st time around. Loads of goals in cup finals and v THEM.
bigTAM weeTAM
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I was 6 y.o & my Dad never allowed me near an old firm game for years!
monkey magic
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Those are incredible lesser known stats that any player would be proud of. We always play down our players achievements.
Topps
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A guy from my home village actually showed ne DJs medal from that game at the beginning of the year. Was given to him after a clearout of a storage unit. Mental that something like that goes missing. He did say he was going to contact the club about it. Dont know if he ever did.
Laudrup11Cooper
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That is your opinion.
But you are saying that a guy that played for AC Milan, Monaco,? and England couldn't lace DJ's boots?
Seriously have a look at season 93-94 or 94-5
Ally had broken his leg, and Big Hateley almost won the league for us single handely!
His goal tally was immense.I think we won the treble that particular year?
Loved Dj...but I doubt even he would agree that.
DJ will always be one of our greatest in my opinion. What a player he was!
wee bud's pit boots
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My old man took me to see him at a reserve match at Cliftonhill. Thinking back it was obvious he was starting to get a name for himself.
However, no one at that time would realise what an effect he would go on to have.
wee bud's pit boots
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Not sure I agree.
Three league titles doesn't cut it for me, when we talk about success.
But as is always said, it's all about opinions.
It was Chris Shevlane that done Iain McDonald with a horrific tackle on him. It was vindictive and can be compared to the one on Ian Durrant at Pittodrie
Like you said, its all about opinions. I think it is a travesty that Hately was in the Rangers greatest XI in front of DJ.
bigTAM weeTAM
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Defence, midfield, forward and scored from all those positions
Remember bud sitting on the ball v Bayern '72 also.
My fave though was when he dinked Provan on the head with the ball before his throw in was lashed in by Alex Miller 1980
Laudrup11Cooper
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Fair enough. Respect your opinion.
But I do agree DJ was immense on both positions.
Laudrup11Cooper
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I also think when that poll was done there was a great leaning towards 9_I-A-R players.
Maybe that was why Hateley was chosen ahead of DJ?
Again ...just my opinion.
Clicker
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That game was my first at the Piggery, a mentally challenged mate of my old man got us tickets for the Stand, but their part. Before the game my dad said “whatever you do, if we score don’t celebrate”. When Ted and Bomber did score I found it so difficult to sit there emotionless.
The thing that struck me that day was how small and plain their mhidden was compared to the majesty of Ibrox.
Slipshod
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It was certainly a monkey off our back at the time.
yes its bollox
wee bud's pit boots
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Not disagreeing with you, because I know where you are coming from.
My opinion, such as it is, is that three out of ten doesn't make it a success for me.
instructor
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I think Hateley and Johnstone are comparable so neither should be demeaned in support of the other, just a matter of who you liked best between 2 great Rangers.
wee bud's pit boots
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Absolutely correct.
I've said on here before, to a great defender of DJ, Alex Venters, it is that because of how versatile he was, it ends up hampering him on how he is judged. And I believe that of John Grieg also.
Most versatile player? Johnstone or Hateley? Derek Johnstone wins hands down for me.
Most fearsome centre forward? It's Hateley, and I will point to two goals he scored at the cesspit as a case in point. Aug 91, when he broke through for the opener. Ne'erday 94, also for that opener.
I don't think DJ would have had the legs to score those goals.
Not a criticism, just pointing out they had different strengths.
As for DJ? There's not many Rangers players I would think would have won three SC badges in different areas of the park, although 76 and 78 were probably more similar.
instructor
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I think part of Johnstone's career is maybe tarnished slightly in that when Greig made him captain, Rangers didn't perform well. I don't know exactly what was going on at Rangers at the time, certainly after we lost the league at Parkhead things went downhill fast, but you have to remember Derek for the good times and there were plenty of those. As you say, there are not too many players who were a class act at centre forward and centre half! Mark was a terrific all round forward, tidy on the ground and an excellent finisher. If he had been available for the match in Marseilles after a harsh sending off v Bruges, we may have made the European Cup final.
