Abd so it starts. Call to remove 'tangerine' kit

monkey magic said:
UEFA are fat old bureaucrats in Switzerland who are told what is or isn't deemed offensive by FARE, an organisation that has a proven track record of a vendetta against our club.
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Yet it seems all they have ever managed to achieve is to get UEFA to ban us from using one word and two specific songs/chants.

I think the orange jerseys will be safe indefinitely.

These slippery slope arguments are based on nothing tangible at all.

Right now we have no strict liability in Scotland at all. They aren't going to punish the club over orange kits or flying the Union Jack or doing the bouncy. There is nothing to suggest these things will ever be banned in any capacity.

UEFA have shown them the ONLY route to effectively punishing us. A single word that we could easily, EASILY, stop using. A couple of songs that could easily go away.

Then they have NOTHING.

Don't know why people are fear mongering to this degree.

Let them rant and rave.

Sing Rangers songs and keep ourselves out of bother and then laugh at the inevitable implosion when we are champions of Scotland again.
 
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
An absolute nonentity,player and now supposed pundit,tainted and biased........nothing more.
 
This reminds me of Archers column in the Aston Villa aftermath.
He said we should be evicted from Ibrox and made to play in black and white stripes.
 
Edweird said:
Perfect example. The singing stops, we move on to the color of the shirts. We dump the orange shirt then we'll be told the blue reminds him of how we used to have an orange shirt.
Then on to the Union Jack and it never ends.
The whole thing is a sham.
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I agree but sometimes an army has to retreat to a more defendable position.

Some on here think the Sash and Derrys Walls arent on the hit list. They're wrong. Haggerty and Findlay wont stop ever.
 
RedWhiteBlue said:
Yet it seems all they have ever managed to achieve is to get UEFA to ban us from using one word and two specific songs/chants.

I think the orange jerseys will be safe indefinitely.

These slippery slope arguments are based on nothing tangible at all.

Right now we have no strict liability in Scotland at all. They aren't going to punish the club over orange kits or flying the Union Jack or doing the bouncy. There is nothing to suggest these things will ever be banned in any capacity.

UEFA have shown them the ONLY route to effectively punishing us. A single word that we could easily, EASILY, stop using. A couple of songs that could easily go away.

Then they have NOTHING.

Don't know why people are fear mongering to this degree.

Let them rant and rave.

Sing Rangers songs and keep ourselves out of bother and then laugh at the inevitable implosion when we are champions of Scotland again.
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FARE are a discredited far left group with their own political agenda against our club and supporters. Why would they even know the terms that they presented to UEFA to demand sanctions against our club, when UEFA don't know anything about regional colloquialisms ? Rangers have to stop FARE in their tracks. That much is now clear.
 
LOL 133 said:
I agree but sometimes an army has to retreat to a more defendable position.

Some on here think the Sash and Derrys Walls arent on the hit list. They're wrong. Haggerty and Findlay wont stop ever.
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That’s why I think we need to stop the billy boys,super rangers (unless we change one word) and ftp.then we are standing on solid ground when they come for the rest
 
RedWhiteBlue said:
How is it the perfect example?

The guy who is against the orange shirts is outnumbered 2 to 1 on BBC Sportsound of all places.

I think it might be a while before we have UEFA saying "you aren't allowed to have an orange jersey".

Either way the singing has to stop. Unless UEFA are going to do a backtrack and say "actually that word we classified as racist 8 years ago is no longer racist".
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This 100%. The likes of Michael Stewart are absolute nobodies who will spout any nonsense to try and stay relevant - it his wet dream to have a thread on FF based on something he has said; ignore him and the others and they soon dissappear.

Uefa have sanctioned us on breaking one of their clear rules and the sanction is as per their rulebook. They have no rule about wearing orange strips.
 
Him and his ilk want us dead. Everything about our club offends them.

The problem is our board. Yes, they should pick their fights but they NEVER pick any. You only hear from them when it's to criticise their own fans.

Stewart should have been very firmly put in his place recently, now he's riding his high horse.

Oh wait, I'm to be eternally grateful to our board who are beyond criticism.

Our own players are being assaulted on and off the park. Our board do nothing.

We win an award from the MoD but how many people outside us know about it? That was a glorious opportunity for positive press.

Kilmarnock won the PR war over Bears being crushed. That was an open goal for us.

A ref openly cheated us, Gollum, and we lost the PR war and got fined.

They're hopeless. So when something like the UEFA sanction comes along it just becomes the next kick. We're that terrified we stand and take it even on occasions that should be a "slam-dunk" for us.

Like the DM era they only respond when personally attacked.
 
Maybe he wore an orrange bib when doing his failed trials, its just a jealous thing.
 
LOL 133 said:
I agree but sometimes an army has to retreat to a more defendable position.

Some on here think the Sash and Derrys Walls arent on the hit list. They're wrong. Haggerty and Findlay wont stop ever.
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I'm in total agreement. If TBB stops and all is well I am happy to say I'm wrong. If we end up in a more defensible situation it still won't matter as no one in any media outlet is listening and no one will report it. The plan right now seem to be to retreat until the attacks stop. They won't.
Currently, the real situation is this.
A Tim defends The Green Brigade's rights by saying "They are standing up to the Orange b@stards across the city and also pointing out that the Brit soldiers are child murdering cowardly scum fcuks and the Jews are manipulating the whole planet."
A Ger replies "Jeez, and you are upset with being called a 19th Century Terrorist?"
The upshot from that is a meltdown on social media and Scottish media at the use of the word 19th Century Terrorist. There's something completely crazy about that.
 
He’s one bitter bitter bstrd just cause he got told to do one from one of our shitest squads ever. He’s not relevant and is frankly a joke. Arguing against a good ranger in Ferguson who still went and cheered his boy on for Aberdeen! What does that show ye! We welcome everyone as long as you believe in Glasgow rangers!
 
Thought our strips were blue first kit, back second and a red third. What sort of planet does this moron live on or is he colour blind.
Anyway we can choose whatever colour we like, the mans a moron.
 
The guys in our warehouse wear Orange hi-via jackets. Are they all sectarian too? Some of them are actually RCs.
 
This won’t go down well, but there’s a valid point in this argument.

The Club knew exactly what they were doing in producing an orange strip. They looked for financial gain, from the leanings of the support. So, whilst taking the media out of the equation, they profited from a view that they now seem to find repugnant. The UB’s have been thrown under the bus throughout this situation, but the Club encouraged supporters to buy an orange strip, solely down to the fact they knew it’d sell well.

Before anyone responds, tell me if you think a yellow, pink, purple or multicoloured top would’ve sold as well.

The Club can’t criticise with one hand, and profit in the other. They need to pick a stance and stick to it.

Edit - I don’t have an issue with the top, just the Clubs ‘flip-flop’ view. They can’t have it both ways.
 
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We can expect more of this shite the closer we get to winning the league and they won’t be happy until we are stripped of everything and we die. Unfortunately for them we have no intention of going away and we will only get stronger.
 
The songs are the inroad that allows our haters to go after everything and anything of ours. If we didn’t have songs saying ‘up to our knees’ then the couldn’t go after other stuff so easily.
 
As I said in another thread, they are wanting to strip up of all our tradition and history; and we are to sit back politely and let them do it while they carry on with their political and terrorist sympathising bile!
Loud and proud I say or we will have nothing as 8s the republican wish.
 
paisleybear8811 said:
Anyone who thinks dropping the offensive songs will stop these cunts coming after us is deluded.
They will chase us for everything they can while ignoring every other club.
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Of course they will, but singing 19th Century Terrorist is going to fck us right over.

The club can not defend 19th Century Terrorist, but they can defend orange strips.
 
Edweird said:
Perfect example. The singing stops, we move on to the color of the shirts. We dump the orange shirt then we'll be told the blue reminds him of how we used to have an orange shirt.
Then on to the Union Jack and it never ends.
The whole thing is a sham.
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It'll be the socks next. Oh no, they've tried that.
 
WE should do it every year. Fucking let them try prove the motive behind it. They can’t. It’s ridiculous but it was blatant this debate would turn up eventually.

Sadly I doubt we’ll see the orange stuff again after this seasons training range. We know how the board roll.
 
People taking the victim/hate crime group need to get a grip.

All you need to say in response to this is that a colour isn't sectarian.
 
Michael Stewart can take a massive fúck to himself.

The day we take lessons in morality from someone as bitter and narrow minded as him is the day we chuck it.
 
RedWhiteBlue said:
Yet it seems all they have ever managed to achieve is to get UEFA to ban us from using one word and two specific songs/chants.

I think the orange jerseys will be safe indefinitely.

These slippery slope arguments are based on nothing tangible at all.

Right now we have no strict liability in Scotland at all. They aren't going to punish the club over orange kits or flying the Union Jack or doing the bouncy. There is nothing to suggest these things will ever be banned in any capacity.

UEFA have shown them the ONLY route to effectively punishing us. A single word that we could easily, EASILY, stop using. A couple of songs that could easily go away.

Then they have NOTHING.

Don't know why people are fear mongering to this degree.

Let them rant and rave.

Sing Rangers songs and keep ourselves out of bother and then laugh at the inevitable implosion when we are champions of Scotland again.
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It's the chip chip effect. Mention it enough times and it becomes fact

Rangers get the reputation for being the bigots in Scotland, then we are marginalized. Parents won't let their kids support a team like that, sponsors look elsewhere, and the supporters become targets in the workplace and on the streets. It's been happening for a decade and a half
 
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