Arch hypocrite Sturgeon

[geoallison]

She’s got Swinney on a stick for his handling of the SQA disaster. He’ll handle a lot of ‘awkward’ press confrences for a while I’d imagine.

He’s her political bombshelter.

Or binshelter, whichever you prefer.

Bin shelter sounds about right, one that is full of republican shite.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Completely agree GY they need challenged in public as we said earlier. Let’s call their lies out use hard facts and evidence no he said, she’s said, I’ve heard, been told, kept it evidence based they will have no where to hide if we deal purely in this.

Exactly. That’s the basis of our success mate.

Hard, public evidence. Beats their wee games every time.

 

[YoungGer97]

Fuck the SNP and all who associate with them

That is all.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

You’re changing the issue though mate. The issue isn’t whether we should be looking at others to see what we ‘can get away with’ as you put it. Nobody said that. I certainly didn’t in the post to which you’re responding. Like you I wasn’t out celebrating but I understand why many did.

The issue isn’t whether they should get away with it but why their breaches are met with direct, full-throated condemnation ( and some lies) from a number of senior figures in the SNP, not only of them as rule breakers but of Rangers as a club, when the serial breaches by other fans and groups mentioned were all spoken about so differently, if at all.

It’s no biggie to me as I expect the SNP to pander to their core and go for us whenever they can especially when they have so much ongoing at the moment on which they wish to avoid scrutiny. It’s entirely predictable from them but if anybody actually thinks they’ve been even handed I have some magic beans I’d like to sell them.

Well said PR.

 

[bearmind]

Posted this on another thread before the Sturgeon thread appeared. It is more appropriate here.

I am happy to be corrected here.

As far as I can recall, there was no statement or acknowledgement by Sturgeon on the 50th anniversary of the Ibrox Disaster on 2nd January 2021. That a Scottish First Minister fails to recognise and pay tribute to the 66 citizens killed and to their surviving families, in one of the worst disasters in 20th century Scotland's history, is absolutely unprecedented, appalling and downright disgraceful for the highest minister in the land, any land.

Yet Sturgeon and her SNP cronies seem able to pass critical judgement 'quickly with ease' on a crowd of Rangers fans who gather together outsde Ibrox (covid situation rules accepted) to celebrate winning a League trophy for the first time in 10 years after what the club has been through: with no help from government either.

There is just something so wrong here in the way these two events, occurring within a couple of months of each other, have been handled so differently. The common denominator is prejudice towards Rangers and their fans by the SNP.

 

[Chairman]

Looks like Rudd Van Nistelrooy's sister by all accounts
A bit horsey

All true

 

[Brotybear]

Posted this on another thread before the Sturgeon thread appeared. It is more appropriate here.

I am happy to be corrected here.

As far as I can recall, there was no statement or acknowledgement by Sturgeon on the 50th anniversary of the Ibrox Disaster on 2nd January 2021. That a Scottish First Minister fails to recognise and pay tribute to the 66 citizens killed and to their surviving families, in one of the worst disasters in 20th century Scotland's history, is absolutely unprecedented, appalling and downright disgraceful for the highest minister in the land, any land.

Yet Sturgeon and her SNP cronies seem able to pass critical judgement 'quickly with ease' on a crowd of Rangers fans who gather together outsde Ibrox (covid situation rules accepted) to celebrate winning a League trophy for the first time in 10 years after what the club has been through: with no help from government either.

There is just something so wrong here in the way these two events, occurring within a couple of months of each other, have been handled so differently. The common denominator is prejudice towards Rangers and their fans by the SNP.

Point well made.

There is no limit to the depths that they will plunge to.

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

Completely agree GY they need challenged in public as we said earlier. Let’s call their lies out use hard facts and evidence no he said, she’s said, I’ve heard, been told, kept it evidence based they will have no where to hide if we deal purely in this.

But they won't be challenged because the poet influenced Labour party, to paraphrase Mick Jagger are yesterday's papers. And who want's yest erday's papers? Nobody in the world.

And the Tories are too cowardly to grasp what is openly staring them in the face.

 

[waldo 1160]

Her and McLaughlins Mrs what a coincidence.

She's too old for her.......no ?

 

[seturdaysanny]

There was an interesting snippet on a political chat show last week that satisfied my curiosity. What’s she done with all the Westminster Money that’s came into the NATIS’S Coffers? the startling figure is One Billion that’s not seen the light of day to the Scottish Economy. When you hear business people complaining about grants they’ve been waiting for since September, it tells you everything about
Nicola Putin’s Incompetence!

It will be used for vote winning stunts (bribes) to try and convince everyone
how good independence would be.

 

[davydumper]

I think our statement makes him look a right prick.

He doesn’t need a statement to look like a prick

 

[DavieC1953]

Since when is it the responsibility of Rangers to control the behaviour of people on a public street?
Rangers DID act responsibly by asking fans to obey the law regarding Covid safety and if the SNP government dont know this then they need told right away.
Rangers are only liable for things which occur within Ibrox Stadium and even then only if they have failed to set out safety and behaviour rules prior to admission.
We need to be telling the Government to get themselves to f**k on this and at the same time remind them of their acceptance of Covid breaches as long as it is one of their favoured groups like BLM, Asylum seekers groups or republican trash acting disgracefully at other footbal venues.
Time to stop letting these c***s ride roughshod all over us.
RTID

 

[Great British Bear]

Well I'm going to confuse the issue.

I don't want anyone like you and your ilk near Ibrox.

As for the so called reasonable Gov't? What did they have to say about the filth, the sharks and assaulting of police at the scum hut?

100%, it’s unforgivable to not understand the tradition and history of our great club and the Rangers supporters.

 

[Bluegeo64]

I mean. Every political party is condemning it. Is anyone surprised?!?! What has happened is against regs. Many rangers fans ourselves haven't gone out and gone mental for that precise reason - Lord knows if we had had free reign it would have been 100x bigger!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not begrudging those who have. 55 means a huge amount, and non-sports fans won't get just how much in truely means. But anyone going out for gatherings at Ibrox and George Square knew what they were doing and precisely how the mhedia were going to portray it.

I've just seen Lib Dems Willie Rennie pointedly blaming the club and our 'silence' for it all, the players for running over to fans in the corner, and how it wasn't a police Scotland issue, so let's not go pretending this is a SNP thing. They, being the ones in government are the only ones who HAVE to say something about it. Show me a political party who isn't giving those (notably no-one has used the staple 'small minority' of) fans a bollocking. They will all condemn it, and you know what, that's a fair cop. Turns out hundreds of folk can't have an all day rager in the centre of Glasgow during a global pandemic caused Lockdown without drawing attention to yourselves. The government arnt being unreasonable by condemning it- that's why there is wide spread political agreement on the issue!

I've always been vocal as a pro-indie bear, and I will continue to not confuse my political decision with the football team I support.

But let's not get into that. This is a spectacular weekend and I hope we all enjoy it. We were always going to go nuts, they were always going to bad mouth us for it. Who's surprised? No one. Who's still flippin extatic, every bear around the globe!

Some reasonable points there but the glaring one missed is The SNP regime's (and every other political parties) lack of similar condemnation when Celtic fans violently protested at the piggery and also when that clubs fans attended Hampden Park prior to the SC final . We also had St Johnstone fans celebrating in Perth. Not forgetting the stay safe comments from Sturgeon when BLM violently gathered attempting to attack police and rip down historic monuments. All these events occurring prior to mass vaccinations.
The Rangers support indulged in a joyfest as opposed to a hatefest.
Do you concede that this is double standards and rank hypocrisy especially from a FM who has lied to parliament and Swinney who has allowed disgusting porn to be peddled to primary kids without a whisper from the media.
They can shove their neo Stalinist preaching up their collective arses as far as I'm concerned.

 

[eeboh]

She’s got Swinney on a stick for his handling of the SQA disaster. He’ll handle a lot of ‘awkward’ press confrences for a while I’d imagine.

He’s her political bombshelter.

Or binshelter, whichever you prefer.

He must be raging about not getting Indy in 2014, she'd never get a hold of him as he'd be happy living in a cave if it meant independence so he told us lol.

 

[Bangersbc]

Some reasonable points there but the glaring one missed is The SNP regime's (and every other political parties) lack of similar condemnation when Celtic fans violently protested at the piggery and also when that clubs fans attended Hampden Park prior to the SC final . We also had St Johnstone fans celebrating in Perth. Not forgetting the stay safe comments from Sturgeon when BLM violently gathered attempting to attack police and rip down historic monuments. All these events occurring prior to mass vaccinations.
The Rangers support indulged in a joyfest as opposed to a hatefest.
Do you concede that this is double standards and rank hypocrisy especially from a FM who has lied to parliament and Swinney who has allowed disgusting porn to be peddled to primary kids without a whisper from the media.
They can shove their neo Stalinist preaching up their collective arses as far as I'm concerned.

I do, yet as you point out it appears to be cross-party and not specific to the SNP.
Tbh, I think it likely a symptom of the larger issue being the media portrayal of our two clubs. If the media sweeps under the rug for one club there is no cause for public condemnation. If the media blows another way out of proportion, then the politicians (from all parties) must be seen to condemn it.

It's all about the profile of the events, and much like our experience with the compliance officer, that is dictated by the mhedia.

Same beast, different face to me. And we can hardly be surprised. BBC Scotland must have been thanking their lucky stars for this controversy as it has taken the pressure well and truely off them. The bosses down south would have been asking serious questions about where their interviews with Gerrard and players were on the title success. Asking question about what would have been a ridiculous media silence from them on the biggest sports news story of the year in scotland. And they would have had literally ZERO content. As it is, they have George Square to fill their schedule (what relief they must feel) and they have been let off the hook. Shame...