Bluethruandthru
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The word "politically" in the title is unnecessary. The rest is fine.
They seem to have a thing for the Basques who historically are very conservative and very right wing. Same with the Croatians. I think it's the Roman Catholic exceptionalism that appeals to them. They haven't squared the circle between support for an ultra right wing church and support for what they think is socialism.We know of their celebration for racist IRA death squads, and they apparently were flying flags commemorating Spanish Republicanism last night at the Piggery. These would be the same Spanish Republicans who murdered thousands of RC priests and nuns during the Civil War.
Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War - Wikipedia
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No doubt they were simultaneously holding up Vatican flags and Pope Francis scarves. Ha-ha-ha !
Utter morons.
They seem to have a thing for the Basques who historically are very conservative and very right wing. Same with the Croatians. I think it's the Roman Catholic exceptionalism that appeals to them. They haven't squared the circle between support for an ultra right wing church and support for what they think is socialism.
Do you know why they didn’t like nationalist, catholic Franco? Do you know what ideology he had? Do you know what he did to those people? Do any of you know why the Vatican supported him?We know of their celebration for racist IRA death squads, and they apparently were flying flags commemorating Spanish Republicanism last night at the Piggery. These would be the same Spanish Republicans who murdered thousands of RC priests and nuns during the Civil War.
Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
No doubt they were simultaneously holding up Vatican flags and Pope Francis scarves. Ha-ha-ha !
Utter morons.
Worth remembering their pro-Argentina chants during the Falklands War, and their taunting of Simon Weston at an OF game at Ibrox, and of course their pigsty being closed during the Second World War due to the chants and songs being sung then.Celtc's " anti-fascists " celebrate the IRA, who were open Nazi collaborators during WW2.
They will now be denying pearl harbour ever happened
I don’t think anyone is supporting Franco here. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the Celtic support claiming to be über-Catholics when convenient while simultaneously flying the flag of a group who killed priests and nuns just because they think it’s the latest trend.Do you know why they didn’t like nationalist, catholic Franco? Do you know what ideology he had? Do you know what he did to those people? Do any of you know why the Vatican supported him?
Are you lot seriously defending a European fascist dictator because Celtic fans don’t like him? Do catholics have to like Mussolini because of their faith? Hitler was baptised a catholic, does that make all catholics nazis?
You are what you accuse them of being and you act like what they accuse you of being. Please actually think before you speak.
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Only the contrary I think they are clued up politically - they’re gutter life but they’re smart they attach themselves to causes like BLM, LGBTQ, Antifa etc so that even though the decision makers and supporters are maniacs they are structured in such a way you can’t possibly argue against their cause
That’s why I think we need to be smarter and bring back even more of our Loyalist roots because it’s a legitimate culture but smart enough to drop FTP add ons because it’s a no win and plays into their hands
Aye, but they had their “Keys” up so shooting back wisnae fair..Irish Republican 'Army' don't believe the enemy are allowed to shoot back.
Don't forget they fly the Irish flag with the Orange section representing Irish Protestants......Wonder how many of them realise that , particularly when they hate us so much....Confused and stupid....We know of their celebration for racist IRA death squads, and they apparently were flying flags commemorating Spanish Republicanism last night at the Piggery. These would be the same Spanish Republicans who murdered thousands of RC priests and nuns during the Civil War.
Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
No doubt they were simultaneously holding up Vatican flags and Pope Francis scarves. Ha-ha-ha !
Utter morons.
Do you know why they didn’t like nationalist, catholic Franco? Do you know what ideology he had? Do you know what he did to those people? Do any of you know why the Vatican supported him?
Are you lot seriously defending a European fascist dictator because Celtic fans don’t like him? Do catholics have to like Mussolini because of their faith? Hitler was baptised a catholic, does that make all catholics nazis?
You are what you accuse them of being and you act like what they accuse you of being. Please actually think before you speak.
White Terror (Spain) - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
We are not the Brits, we are British.The thick cúnts call us huns! They are the most clueless idiots. They think if they just repeat the names you call them and call you it, it means they are correct. Most kids grow out of that stupid stage by about 7 or 8, not them.
As I said in another thread, I just remind them that We are the Brits.
Catholicism.What is this iron age cult you speak off?
I don’t care much for the Vatican, the IRA or the Argentines either, but you can’t condemn them for disliking a fascist dictator while simultaneously saying that they support “fascists”. Pick one. It’s just political and historical ignorance.Eh. ?
These maniacs wave far-right Vatican flags, celebrate IRA Nazi collaborators, indulge in overt anti-Semitism that they forced out a Jewish Board Director of their own club, abuse their own Jewish players, supported the Argentine fascist junta during the Falklands War. The list goes on and on, yet they pose as socially-progressive anti-fascists.
They’re certainly the most politically backed fans/club in the world.
But that's the point, they are oblivious to their own contradictions.I don’t care much for the Vatican, the IRA or the Argentines either, but you can’t condemn them for disliking a fascist dictator while simultaneously saying that they support “fascists”. Pick one. It’s just political and historical ignorance.
I don’t care much for the Vatican, the IRA or the Argentines either, but you can’t condemn them for disliking a fascist dictator while simultaneously saying that they support “fascists”. Pick one. It’s just political and historical ignorance.
A superb read.This "Martyr" rubbish that the OP has flagged up on wiki is no more than Vatican rewritten history and propaganda to hide the truth of these priests and nuns. The Vatican was the biggest ally, along with Hitler supplying planes and arms, to Franco's fascist forces.
Many moons ago I worked with an old guy, who as a young man, volunteered to fight with the International Brigade against Franco's fascists. He told me stories long before I read them for myself in books and documentaries in later years. The most vivid of which was entering a village, and on the outskirts, the road embankment was strewn with dead bodies. Apparently they were all socialists murdered by Franco's troops. How did they know they were Republican sympathisers? Well the priest and nuns of that village took Franco's troops with unrestrained zeal round and pointed them out for execution. Then they would take the children to their orphanages and fill the children's heads with propaganda and the evil of their parents.
This old guy happened to be born second generation Irish catholic, a faith that he had long rejected because of his experiences in Spain. He gave me two pieces of advice that I didn't really understand then, but my experience has seen the wisdom of. The first was "Never vote for a political party with the word National in it". The second was that you cannot claim to be a socialist and be a catholic. They are oxymoronic as the Roman Catholic church is the faith of fascism. Something that is self evident through twentieth century history.
The truth is, and we all know that truth can be the first casualty of war as the Vatican has shown, is that these priests and nuns were executed for what the Republicans saw as war crimes and their part in ordering the killings of civilians.
The Republicans of the Spanish Civil War were as far removed from the "Republicans" that the Celtc minded hero worship as I am from Green Brigade membership. They will be turning in their graves to know their cause is being hijacked by these confused political illiterates as the OP calls them. As Immortal Seven points out Eire through the machinations of the RC church there sent thousands to fight for Franco. They wore blue shirts would you believe.
In the parlance of Hollywood westerns the Republicans of Spain who fought to maintain their democratic government were the guys in the white hats. Franco, the RC Church and their modern day equivalents the Green Brigade would always be played by Jack Palance.