Exactly palGood stuff, mate. Its important that we keep things brief, easily read, and more importantly, 100 % accurate, when sending info to potentially helpful sources concerning that horrible club.
Exactly palGood stuff, mate. Its important that we keep things brief, easily read, and more importantly, 100 % accurate, when sending info to potentially helpful sources concerning that horrible club.
Its Frank Cairney, mate. CBC were playing a tournament in Kearny, New Jersey, at the time.
Just received this email from smerixa...can any bears help with this?
Our police are doing there best to find information dating back to 1991, unfortunately back in the day we didn’t have computers so they are doing search by paper trail. Any police reports that you can get would help as well, the articles are one thing but I prefer documentation for verification.
some of the unwashed have said on one of their forums that the Adidas deal is close to being complete and will be announced at end of year...seems strange Adidas would continue down the road of sponsoring them.
THIS is a bit surprisingQuick 'Not today, thanks' response from Boston! ...
On 23 Jul 2019, at 14:25, Wallack, Todd <todd.wallack@globe.com> wrote:
'Hi. We're just a small investigative team in Boston. We, unfortunately, cannot generally investigate stories in the UK.
Todd Wallack
Reporter
Boston Globe
todd.wallack@globe.com
617-929-2069
617-929-9100 (fax)'
My response ...
'Hi Todd,
Thank you for your quick reply.
I thought, given that one of the offences occurred in Kearney, NJ, you might have seen some value in pursuing the story.
That being the case, could you please suggest any contacts that may have an interest?
Thank you.
Regards,
johnkp'
His response to my response ...
'New Jersey is outside of our readership area. You could contact a newspaper or other media organization there.'
I sent emails this morning at 3am to the following;
The observer, 39 Seeley Avenue, Kearny,
NJ 0732.
Lisa feorenzo, advertising/co owner
Lisa@theobserver.com
Bob Pezzolla, General manager
Gm@theobserver.com
Kevin Canessa, editorial and website
Kc@theobserver.com
Kearny is obviously the place where CBC were staying in 1991. No email has pinged back so I’m guessing the address is still live. It may lead somewhere or not. But it’s another avenue to go down.
Tommy; I am sure that somewhere in a full long article about the Airport Stopover
Meeting that it mentioned of "The Brannigans seeking advice" from sources(?) who
would have known what The Brannigans should DO too keep themselves kosher?
Will have a dig about, maybe someone could add if this is their thoughts also
We could do with a fuckin index or abrtract/ timeline????
Email sent to Lisa in New Jersey and Marc Horne at The Times. Finally some movement!
Good work BN and all. I've got plenty for her.
I require to partake in feeding me face, thereafter, anything I can find is getting blasted.
If anyone has a ready made list of contacts (outwith the sponsors one I've already done - unless they're new ones) please post or PM me them. Your time won't be wasted. Cheers! WATP.
Pointless going to Trump mate, he's defending his paedo mate Epstein among others in hisKeyboard wizards on FF. I need your help.
Alberto G. Santos
Mayor of Kearny New Jersey. Just sent him an email basically stating everything and asking for assistance. But the email returns saying something like it’s classed as spam and can’t be received. He’s been the mayor since 2000 so I thought I’d give it a go. You never know we might get a reply.
Failing that then I’m going for Trump next
Pointless going to Trump mate, he's defending his paedo mate Epstein in a child rape/child sex trafficking scandal.Keyboard wizards on FF. I need your help.
Alberto G. Santos
Mayor of Kearny New Jersey. Just sent him an email basically stating everything and asking for assistance. But the email returns saying something like it’s classed as spam and can’t be received. He’s been the mayor since 2000 so I thought I’d give it a go. You never know we might get a reply.
Failing that then I’m going for Trump next
Well guys this is the first response after weeks of trying to get scottish government to reply to any of my emails it says it all I'M FCKN SCUNNERED
23 July, 2019Thank you for your email of 24 June. The Scottish Government unreservedly condemns the abhorrent crime of sexual abuse. Experiences of sexual abuse in Scottish football will have a profound and long-lasting impact on those who were abused. Ensuring children can enjoy taking part in sport in a safe and secure environment – as well as giving parents confidence about the safety and wellbeing of their children – is a priority for the Scottish Government.You may be aware that the Scottish FA announced the terms of reference for an independent review of non-recent sexual abuse allegations in Scottish football on 2 February 2017. The interim report was published on 26 July 2018, allowing the Scottish FA to address some or the recommendations before the final report is published when current on-going legal cases are concluded.The Scottish Government will consider next steps when the final report is published.Yours sincerely Reagan Woodrow
WATP
Something that will be relevant. In America we have a duty to report. Meaning if I am sitting on a park bench and some kid tells me they are being molested I have to report it. Legally not just morally. So separate entity will mean jack shit here.
Its Frank Cairney, mate. CBC were playing a tournament in Kearny, New Jersey, at the time.
Pointless going to Trump mate, he's defending his paedo mate Epstein among others in his
Pointless going to Trump mate, he's defending his paedo mate Epstein in a child rape/child sex trafficking scandal.
A lot of good people doing some great work on this matter and appreciated by many of us . Keep it up lads and lasses , hopefully justice will prevail .
I might be wrong Tommy but I don’t think it was reported back in 1991. I’m sure the airport article said if the American police got involved the boy would be taken into care and they got in touch with Celtic to tell them what to do. Celtic then organised flights home promising the parents it would be dealt with.
Tommy; I am sure that somewhere in a full long article about the Airport Stopover
Meeting that it mentioned of "The Brannigans seeking advice" from sources(?) who
would have known what The Brannigans should DO too keep themselves kosher?
Will have a dig about, maybe someone could add if this is their thoughts also
We could do with a fuckin index or abrtract/ timeline????
Hi Nacho, what angle did you take with Marc ?
I wanted to push him towards the LSE issue to establish whether there was an issue for their 2 Yr Investigation statement ?
Best, GY
See post 10,412 GYMy recollection is the same Karbear !
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Shameful+airport+pact+haunts+us+after+5+years;+EXCLUSIVE:+Truth...-a061256232
The secret deal which protected a sex pervert for five years was struck in an American airport cafe.
Hours before Celtic Boys' Club were due to fly home, five men sat around a table at bustling Boston airport.
There they sealed the shameful pact that has haunted them since.
Frank Cairney - the man who WAS Celtic Boys' Club - agreed to resign and a dingy chapter in Celtic's history was born.
A young player had claimed he had been touched sexually by Cairney while in bed.
Now the other four men who were part of that airport deal, former chairman Jim McNally and officials Bill Gilfillan, John Gallacher and Willie Hampson, have decided to speak about it for the first time.
They talked to the Daily Record which last week lifted the lid off the sex abuse scandal at the boys club.
Jim McNally, speaking for all four, said: "Apart from sworn statements to Celtic and the police, none of us has ever spoken about what happened.
"It has been painful and has taken a great toll on all of our lives."
Players had been staying in the homes of ex-pat Celtic fans in Kearney, New Jersey, in 1991 for a showpiece tournament. Two were living with exiled Scot, Pat Brannigan.
Jim said: "Pat Brannigan told me that a boy had made a serious allegation against Frank Cairney. I interviewed the boy after Pat Brannigan came for me very early in the morning.
"Pat and his wife Diane were there. I asked a second boy who was also staying at Pat's house to leave the room.
"The first lad was very distraught. He repeated the allegation of a sexual nature against Frank Cairney.
"He said it happened in Pat Brannigan's basement where the boys were sleeping.
"Frank had been staying at a hotel nearby. But it wouldn't have been unusual for him to be in the house because he always went around to where the boys were staying, to make sure they were all right.
"Initially I found the whole thing hard to believe. I had never experienced anything like that before in my life.
"I honestly thought and hoped it was horseplay that had got out of hand a wee bit. Immediately I talked to the other three officials.
"I told them what had happened. We were visiting a theme park that day and I got the senior players together and told them what had happened. They already knew.
"I asked them if they would keep their eye on this lad until we got things sorted out."
He continued: "We decided that we would talk to Frank Cairney and we did. He very forcibly, strenuously denied the allegation. He was very angry. He said nothing happened.
"While we were talking about it, Pat Brannigan arrived and said he had spoken to his lawyer and the police.
"I also spoke to Pat's lawyer about the procedure and what we would do.
"I asked him what would happen if the boy made a formal complaint. And what he told me was the real shocker of the whole thing.
"He said that Frank Cairney would be charged and that the boy, and the other boy who was staying in the house, would be put in protective custody."
Distraught Jim and the officials were terrified to bring in police in case the boys were taken away from them.
He said:"I was absolutely shattered about that. There was no way I could have landed at Glasgow Airport and told two sets of parents that their boys weren't there.
"After that meeting I immediately contacted Celtic, but it was the Glasgow Fair and I had a terrible job trying to get a hold of people.
"I tried Jack McGinn, Jimmy Farrell (Celtic directors), but could not get them. I then phoned Sean McMullen and Bobby Creilly, two other boys' club officials.
"I told them what had happened and I told them of my fear that the boys would be taken into protective custody and that this wasn't for me or even the boy to decide what they should do. I felt his parents should make that decision.
"This was the Thursday and we were due home on the Sunday.
"We also booked three tickets to be held just in case the boy wanted home early.
"I spoke to the lad at regular intervals and he opted to stay at Brannigan's. He seemed to be coping.
"He continued to play in the tournament. I've always admired the boy and how he coped with all of this.
"He was only 16 at the time. He actually started officially playing for Celtic on the Monday after he returned home."
Jim McNally didn't call in the police, but Pat Brannigan may have brought them in. Jim said: "If the police interviewed the boy I wasn't aware of it. I think Pat Brannigan felt we weren't handling it correctly. But the reason we handled it the way we did was because I didn't believe it was up to me to decide what to do.
"Eventually there was a meeting with the boy's parents which Creilly and McMullen had been trying to arrange .
"We left Kennedy airport, New York, on Sunday, but still there was no word. We stopped over at Boston and this is where it all happened.
"There was a message at Boston for me to phone home.
"I was told the meeting had concluded and the outcome was that the boy's parents were quite happy to leave the matter in Celtic's hands, provided Frank Cairney resigned from the boys' club on returning.
"Myself, Willie Hampson, Bill Gilfillan and John Gallacher, the four officials, met in the cafe at Boston airport and we told Frank Cairney what we had been advised.
"He agreed to resign when he went home. We arrived at Glasgow and went straight to the park.
"Jack McGinn organised a meeting at 11am with Frank Cairney and a meeting with me at 2pm.
"At that meeting, he gave me a copy of Frank Cairney's resignation which said he had resigned because he had got promotion in his company and the pressure of work.
"We were still concerned that we weren't quite covered, so we individually consulted lawyers and collectively spoke to a QC for advice.
"He asked if we could produce any more boys who could quote incidents from anywhere at any time. But we knew we couldn't do that."
The deal they had to be part of has left them sad, jaundiced men. All have since left Celtic Boys' Club.
Jim added: "The boy told me what happened. I cannot say what happened.
"But the parents wanted the boy to get on with his career and get on with his life, once they had been given assurances he was coping."
He added: "We were never sworn to secrecy. The boy asked us not to talk about it and we respected his wishes."
Club hotline for victims
Celtic last night set up a counselling service to provide support for families struggling to cope with the trauma of the Boys' Club revelations.
Announcing the hotline, chairman Fergus McCann said: "Celtic Football Club has been receiving many calls from people and families in distress over the alleged incidents.
"In addition to asking people to report allegations to the police, it is obvious many need advice of trained specialists."
The support and advice Hotline opens today and will run for a week between noon and midnight. It is costing Celtic pounds 5000.
McCann also offered his support to current officials of the Boys Club. He added: "It is a great pity their good work should be tarnished by these alleged incidents."
Boys' Club chairman Tony McGuinness said: "The hotline is a very welcome gesture."
Lorraine Rochford of Network Scotland, who have selected the specialists, added: "Celtic Football Club have to be commended for providing this service."
HOW WE EXPOSED SCANDAL
The Daily Record exclusively revealed the Celtic Boys' Club sex abuse scandal a week ago.
In a series of exclusive stories, Scotland's No 1 newspaper unmasked Jim Torbett and Frank Cairney.
We exposed how frightened young players were fondled by the club bosses they trusted.
We revealed how Cairney lied to a local newspaper with claims he didn't know one of his victims.
And we told how pervert Torbett was booted out of the club - only to be allowed to return years later.
After the Record's sensational reports, Torbett was again kicked out by the boys' club.
And detectives have confirmed that they plan to quiz the wealthy businessman.
See post 10,412 GY
I gave him a load of information from over the years published on newspaper, BBC and STV's websites.
Ended it off by asking what he could do to help personally or what The Times as a whole could do.
Don't worry though, all the vital information is there, also added links to Patrick McGuire as he is the leader in all of this. All victims need to go to him to discuss their experiences.
Got the same reply(except the first para) at the end of June..Reply from Scottish ministers.
our ref.
23 July 2019.
Dear Sir.
Thank you for your emails on 27th 28th June to Scottish ministers. I have been asked to respond.
I understand that you have been in correspondence with Nadhim Zahawi. The Scottish government unreservedly condemns the abhorrent crime of sexual abuse.
Experiences of sexual abuse in Scottish football will have a profound and long lasting impact on those who were abused. Ensuring children can enjoy taking part in sport in a safe and secure environment-as well as giving parents confidence about the safety and well-being of their children-is a priority for the Scottish government.
You may be aware that the Scottish FA announced the terms of reference for an independent review of non-recent sexual abuse allegations in Scottish football on 2 February 2017. The interim report was published on 26 July 2018,allowing the Scottish FA to address some of the recommendations before the final report is published when current ongoing legal cases are concluded. The Scottish government will consider next steps when the final report is published.
Yours sincerely, Reagan Woodrow/policy officer/Scottish government/Active Scotland
Reagan.woodrow@gov.scot
Excellent mate.
Just really want to ensure this London Stock Exchange Route is opened up.
They won’t be influenced by the SNP and any fines could be significant if misleading investors
Got the same reply(except the first para) at the end of June..
The refusal of the SFA to publish the full report is worrying, it is a catch all that allows Celtc to go unpunished. It is very likely that cases will be going through the courts for years to come.
They could simply force a confidential agreement on all parties, there is certainly precedence for this. Then expel Celtc from football indefinitely, and sell their assets for victim compensation, then publish the review when the cases are concluded.
Gy; I seem to recall that it had an additional qualification at the bottom of it ,
not verbatim but " The LSE investigates all information, on all allegations,
though that info. is not issued to the public-- only its punishment etc".
The football authorities have used the court case excuse as a get out clause. They have no intention of ever sanctioning this mob.
The filth should already have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute with further charges to follow.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUSTICE+AT+LAST;+Celtic+Boys'+Club+abuser+faces+jail+after+ends+30...-a060945642
Meanwhile, in the light of the scandal, Celtic have issued a new code of conduct which has to be signed by every employee, youth coach and boys' club official.
Boys' club secretary Robert Wilson also said: "Every step has been taken to ensure an incident like this will not happen again."
Thanks @Humbug for the above info and links supplied,this one is intresting and maybe worth while adding to emails sent.
Good point BB
@Humbug takes all this credit Bears,had all this info and links stored on various devices,awesome find!
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUSTICE+AT+LAST;+Celtic+Boys'+Club+abuser+faces+jail+after+ends+30...-a060945642
Meanwhile, in the light of the scandal, Celtic have issued a new code of conduct which has to be signed by every employee, youth coach and boys' club official.
Boys' club secretary Robert Wilson also said: "Every step has been taken to ensure an incident like this will not happen again."
Thanks @Humbug for the above info and links supplied,this one is intresting and maybe worth while adding to emails sent.
Don't forget this has been a topic on the board for more years than there should have been,over the years there have been loads of posters with great info. We are all doing our bit, all the information is out there it just needs exposure.
Sadly years ago many of the old bloggers were labelled as cranks and bigots by too many unwilling to believe this could actually happen, times have changed.
Glad to do my bit, the victims must have their day and be heard.
Tick Tock
Oh fuuking really? I'll bet it defo has happened since Mr Robert Wilson went on the record with the parcel of sh.ite quoted above. Ask Mccafferty, Cairney, or just read the archived trials. Lying scumbagshttps://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUSTICE+AT+LAST;+Celtic+Boys'+Club+abuser+faces+jail+after+ends+30...-a060945642
Meanwhile, in the light of the scandal, Celtic have issued a new code of conduct which has to be signed by every employee, youth coach and boys' club official.
Boys' club secretary Robert Wilson also said: "Every step has been taken to ensure an incident like this will not happen again."
Thanks @Humbug for the above info and links supplied,this one is intresting and maybe worth while adding to emails sent.
Money over morals if this is the case.some of the unwashed have said on one of their forums that the Adidas deal is close to being complete and will be announced at end of year...seems strange Adidas would continue down the road of sponsoring them.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Shameful+airport+pact+haunts+us+after+5+years;+EXCLUSIVE:+Truth...-a061256232
The secret deal which protected a sex pervert for five years was struck in an American airport cafe.
Hours before Celtic Boys' Club were due to fly home, five men sat around a table at bustling Boston airport.
There they sealed the shameful pact that has haunted them since.
Frank Cairney - the man who WAS Celtic Boys' Club - agreed to resign and a dingy chapter in Celtic's history was born.
A young player had claimed he had been touched sexually by Cairney while in bed.
Now the other four men who were part of that airport deal, former chairman Jim McNally and officials Bill Gilfillan, John Gallacher and Willie Hampson, have decided to speak about it for the first time.
They talked to the Daily Record which last week lifted the lid off the sex abuse scandal at the boys club.
Jim McNally, speaking for all four, said: "Apart from sworn statements to Celtic and the police, none of us has ever spoken about what happened.
"It has been painful and has taken a great toll on all of our lives."
Players had been staying in the homes of ex-pat Celtic fans in Kearney, New Jersey, in 1991 for a showpiece tournament. Two were living with exiled Scot, Pat Brannigan.
Jim said: "Pat Brannigan told me that a boy had made a serious allegation against Frank Cairney. I interviewed the boy after Pat Brannigan came for me very early in the morning.
"Pat and his wife Diane were there. I asked a second boy who was also staying at Pat's house to leave the room.
"The first lad was very distraught. He repeated the allegation of a sexual nature against Frank Cairney.
"He said it happened in Pat Brannigan's basement where the boys were sleeping.
"Frank had been staying at a hotel nearby. But it wouldn't have been unusual for him to be in the house because he always went around to where the boys were staying, to make sure they were all right.
"Initially I found the whole thing hard to believe. I had never experienced anything like that before in my life.
"I honestly thought and hoped it was horseplay that had got out of hand a wee bit. Immediately I talked to the other three officials.
"I told them what had happened. We were visiting a theme park that day and I got the senior players together and told them what had happened. They already knew.
"I asked them if they would keep their eye on this lad until we got things sorted out."
He continued: "We decided that we would talk to Frank Cairney and we did. He very forcibly, strenuously denied the allegation. He was very angry. He said nothing happened.
"While we were talking about it, Pat Brannigan arrived and said he had spoken to his lawyer and the police.
"I also spoke to Pat's lawyer about the procedure and what we would do.
"I asked him what would happen if the boy made a formal complaint. And what he told me was the real shocker of the whole thing.
"He said that Frank Cairney would be charged and that the boy, and the other boy who was staying in the house, would be put in protective custody."
Distraught Jim and the officials were terrified to bring in police in case the boys were taken away from them.
He said:"I was absolutely shattered about that. There was no way I could have landed at Glasgow Airport and told two sets of parents that their boys weren't there.
"After that meeting I immediately contacted Celtic, but it was the Glasgow Fair and I had a terrible job trying to get a hold of people.
"I tried Jack McGinn, Jimmy Farrell (Celtic directors), but could not get them. I then phoned Sean McMullen and Bobby Creilly, two other boys' club officials.
"I told them what had happened and I told them of my fear that the boys would be taken into protective custody and that this wasn't for me or even the boy to decide what they should do. I felt his parents should make that decision.
"This was the Thursday and we were due home on the Sunday.
"We also booked three tickets to be held just in case the boy wanted home early.
"I spoke to the lad at regular intervals and he opted to stay at Brannigan's. He seemed to be coping.
"He continued to play in the tournament. I've always admired the boy and how he coped with all of this.
"He was only 16 at the time. He actually started officially playing for Celtic on the Monday after he returned home."
Jim McNally didn't call in the police, but Pat Brannigan may have brought them in. Jim said: "If the police interviewed the boy I wasn't aware of it. I think Pat Brannigan felt we weren't handling it correctly. But the reason we handled it the way we did was because I didn't believe it was up to me to decide what to do.
"Eventually there was a meeting with the boy's parents which Creilly and McMullen had been trying to arrange .
"We left Kennedy airport, New York, on Sunday, but still there was no word. We stopped over at Boston and this is where it all happened.
"There was a message at Boston for me to phone home.
"I was told the meeting had concluded and the outcome was that the boy's parents were quite happy to leave the matter in Celtic's hands, provided Frank Cairney resigned from the boys' club on returning.
"Myself, Willie Hampson, Bill Gilfillan and John Gallacher, the four officials, met in the cafe at Boston airport and we told Frank Cairney what we had been advised.
"He agreed to resign when he went home. We arrived at Glasgow and went straight to the park.
"Jack McGinn organised a meeting at 11am with Frank Cairney and a meeting with me at 2pm.
"At that meeting, he gave me a copy of Frank Cairney's resignation which said he had resigned because he had got promotion in his company and the pressure of work.
"We were still concerned that we weren't quite covered, so we individually consulted lawyers and collectively spoke to a QC for advice.
"He asked if we could produce any more boys who could quote incidents from anywhere at any time. But we knew we couldn't do that."
The deal they had to be part of has left them sad, jaundiced men. All have since left Celtic Boys' Club.
Jim added: "The boy told me what happened. I cannot say what happened.
"But the parents wanted the boy to get on with his career and get on with his life, once they had been given assurances he was coping."
He added: "We were never sworn to secrecy. The boy asked us not to talk about it and we respected his wishes."
Club hotline for victims
Celtic last night set up a counselling service to provide support for families struggling to cope with the trauma of the Boys' Club revelations.
Announcing the hotline, chairman Fergus McCann said: "Celtic Football Club has been receiving many calls from people and families in distress over the alleged incidents.
"In addition to asking people to report allegations to the police, it is obvious many need advice of trained specialists."
The support and advice Hotline opens today and will run for a week between noon and midnight. It is costing Celtic pounds 5000.
McCann also offered his support to current officials of the Boys Club. He added: "It is a great pity their good work should be tarnished by these alleged incidents."
Boys' Club chairman Tony McGuinness said: "The hotline is a very welcome gesture."
Lorraine Rochford of Network Scotland, who have selected the specialists, added: "Celtic Football Club have to be commended for providing this service."
HOW WE EXPOSED SCANDAL
The Daily Record exclusively revealed the Celtic Boys' Club sex abuse scandal a week ago.
In a series of exclusive stories, Scotland's No 1 newspaper unmasked Jim Torbett and Frank Cairney.
We exposed how frightened young players were fondled by the club bosses they trusted.
We revealed how Cairney lied to a local newspaper with claims he didn't know one of his victims.
And we told how pervert Torbett was booted out of the club - only to be allowed to return years later.
After the Record's sensational reports, Torbett was again kicked out by the boys' club.
And detectives have confirmed that they plan to quiz the wealthy businessman.
Record13/081996
Just looking at the reporting of the 1991 Kearney New Jersey Incident
Record13/081996
FIVE years ago, police in America were asked to probe claims that there had been an incident involving boys' club general manager Frank Cairney and a young boy during a trip to the USA.
The boy later played for Celtic's first team. Police investigated, but no action was taken.
The second quote is the one that is often reported as the event
Scotland on Sunday18/08/1996
It was agreed, by Brady, the boy and his parents and the then Celtic board, that the police would not be informed.
The young player was assured that the alleged incident would have no effect on his future career at the club.
However, signed statements were taken by Celtic's lawyers from the four adults who had been on the New Jersey trip. All were sworn to silence.
Which one is it?
If possible, this link should be sent to media and police sources in the USA as this meeting to subvert justice took place in that country. Anything relating to Frank Cairney's conviction here in Scotland could also be of great interest.[/QUOTE
We need to send everything we’ve got.