ChildOfGoth
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Not getting it yet , a clue or two BB ?
Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)
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Not getting it yet , a clue or two BB ?
BlueBaloo
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"Mystery businessman" with CFC connections
I'm sure a certain someone at CP was getting some heat at that time and was trying to deflect the heat away knowing the reward money would never be claimed
Or it was Haughey
Either way nameless bogey men in cases like this reek
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Bobafett Bear
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As it’s public knowledge now what a disgrace !
thanks for the info on pm,much appreciated!
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Regional Network Meeting
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SGbanwa
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As it’s public knowledge now what a disgrace !
thanks for the info on pm,much appreciated!
Regional Network Meeting
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Wow just unbelievable
Mustang mad
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Is that not just trolling victims?As it’s public knowledge now what a disgrace !
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Regional Network Meeting
Eventbrite - Scottish FA Wellbeing and Protection Department presents Regional Network Meeting - Wednesday, 11 March 2020 in Glasgow, Glasgow. Find event and ticket information.
Jesus christ, talk about insensitive
Blues and Royals
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To the politicians trying to cover it all up.
You couldn’t make it up. Any victim or family member seeing that would be upset. Of all the places in Glasgow where this could be held, they pick the biggest child abuse crime scene in world football.
The Goal Machine
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The latest from the Times
Paedophiles in football ‘co-operated as a network’
Marc Horne
January 18 2020, 12:01am, The Times
Barry Bennell was given a 30-year sentence
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An investigation has been opened into claims that some of the country’s most notorious predators worked together in a paedophile network that preyed on young footballers.
A review commissioned by the Scottish FA will hear evidence next week that Barry Bennell, a former scout with Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra, and Jim McCafferty, a former Celtic kitman and boys’ club coach, were part of an organised cross-border abuse ring.
Bennell, 66, is serving a 30-year sentence for abusing boys on what was described as an “industrial scale”. McCafferty was jailed last year for molesting youngsters over a period of 24 years.
Harry Dunn, the former Rangers and Liverpool youth scout, died before he could stand trial over abuse charges in 2017
One survivor has presented fresh evidence, claiming he was abused separately by McCafferty and Bennell after being introduced to them by Bill Kelly, a former coach with the now defunct West Lothian team Uphall Saints.
Kelly, 84, was jailed for sexually assaulting at least 12 players at the club over a period of 22 years.
Another one of his victims claimed that Kelly was an associate of Harry Dunn, the former Rangers and Liverpool youth scout, who died before he could stand trial over abuse charges in 2017.
Malcolm, 48, from Glasgow, was subjected to two years of abuse in the mid-1980s after attending games, trials and tournaments in Scotland, England and Spain. He said: “I was abused by men who went on to be convicted of multiple offences, involving large numbers of victims, over exceptionally long periods of time. They were prolific, connected and worked together.
“I have no idea how this network of predatory paedophiles came into being or was put together, but it existed and it ruined countless young lives. Scottish FA executives need to sit in a room with myself and the other abuse victims, hear our statements, look us straight in the eye and see if they can continue to deny responsibility and liability.”
Jim McCafferty was jailed last yearPOLICE SCOTLAND
James, 62, from Lanarkshire, claims he was regularly taken to a health centre in Edinburgh city centre with other boys after they had been abused by Kelly in the late 1960s and early 1970s. He insists that Kelly, who served as secretary of the West Lothian Association of Youth Football Clubs, would take them to a sauna where he would introduce them to “friends”, including a referee, child protection officer and a man he now believes was Dunn.
James said: “You can’t help but think there was a definite interlinking and knowledge of what was going on by abusers. These guys knew each other and worked together.”
Their evidence will now form part of the Independent Review of Sexual Abuse in Scottish Football, whose final report will be published this year.
The Times understands it has already received evidence that McCafferty took youngsters from Glasgow to a tournament in the northwest of England where Bennell was in attendance.
Bennell was found guilty in February 2018 of 43 charges of historical child sexual abuse.
A junior football coach and youth scout, he boasted that he could find young star players for professional football clubs. He repeatedly abused boys while promising to further their careers and is serving his fourth prison sentence for child sexual abuse.
Once a youth player at Chelsea, Bennell is most closely associated with Crewe Alexandra, where he worked in the 1980s and 1990s. Bennell also ran summer holiday camps in the UK, often held at Butlin’s, youth football tours and “soccer camps” in the US and it was in there that his crimes first came to light.
In 1994, police in Jacksonville, Florida, charged him with sexually abusing a 13-year-old British boy on a tour. The trip reportedly involved young footballers aged 11 to 14.
According to a court report in the Birmingham Mail at the time, Bennell was arrested after the boy returned home from a camp and told his parents he had been abused. Bennell was sentenced to four years in a US prison.
A source close to the Scottish FA review said that they would share the fresh evidence with counterparts at the English FA. They said: “Testimony which speaks to a connection between a high profile offender in Scotland and a very high profile offender in England would be included in our report.”
Manchester City confirmed its own internal abuse investigation had established that Bennell took youth teams to tournaments in Scotland.
The Scottish FA said it would be willing to meet both men, listen to their concerns and offer support.
A spokesman said: “The chief executive has issued a heartfelt apology on behalf of Scottish football to those with personal experience of sexual abuse in our national game. We acknowledge the very deep impact experiences of sexual abuse has had on many individuals and that is why we commissioned the independent review.”
Kelly denies having any connection with McCafferty, Bennell or Dunn.
Paedophiles in football ‘co-operated as a network’
Marc Horne
January 18 2020, 12:01am, The Times
Barry Bennell was given a 30-year sentence
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An investigation has been opened into claims that some of the country’s most notorious predators worked together in a paedophile network that preyed on young footballers.
A review commissioned by the Scottish FA will hear evidence next week that Barry Bennell, a former scout with Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra, and Jim McCafferty, a former Celtic kitman and boys’ club coach, were part of an organised cross-border abuse ring.
Bennell, 66, is serving a 30-year sentence for abusing boys on what was described as an “industrial scale”. McCafferty was jailed last year for molesting youngsters over a period of 24 years.
Harry Dunn, the former Rangers and Liverpool youth scout, died before he could stand trial over abuse charges in 2017
One survivor has presented fresh evidence, claiming he was abused separately by McCafferty and Bennell after being introduced to them by Bill Kelly, a former coach with the now defunct West Lothian team Uphall Saints.
Kelly, 84, was jailed for sexually assaulting at least 12 players at the club over a period of 22 years.
Another one of his victims claimed that Kelly was an associate of Harry Dunn, the former Rangers and Liverpool youth scout, who died before he could stand trial over abuse charges in 2017.
Malcolm, 48, from Glasgow, was subjected to two years of abuse in the mid-1980s after attending games, trials and tournaments in Scotland, England and Spain. He said: “I was abused by men who went on to be convicted of multiple offences, involving large numbers of victims, over exceptionally long periods of time. They were prolific, connected and worked together.
“I have no idea how this network of predatory paedophiles came into being or was put together, but it existed and it ruined countless young lives. Scottish FA executives need to sit in a room with myself and the other abuse victims, hear our statements, look us straight in the eye and see if they can continue to deny responsibility and liability.”
Jim McCafferty was jailed last yearPOLICE SCOTLAND
James, 62, from Lanarkshire, claims he was regularly taken to a health centre in Edinburgh city centre with other boys after they had been abused by Kelly in the late 1960s and early 1970s. He insists that Kelly, who served as secretary of the West Lothian Association of Youth Football Clubs, would take them to a sauna where he would introduce them to “friends”, including a referee, child protection officer and a man he now believes was Dunn.
James said: “You can’t help but think there was a definite interlinking and knowledge of what was going on by abusers. These guys knew each other and worked together.”
Their evidence will now form part of the Independent Review of Sexual Abuse in Scottish Football, whose final report will be published this year.
The Times understands it has already received evidence that McCafferty took youngsters from Glasgow to a tournament in the northwest of England where Bennell was in attendance.
Bennell was found guilty in February 2018 of 43 charges of historical child sexual abuse.
A junior football coach and youth scout, he boasted that he could find young star players for professional football clubs. He repeatedly abused boys while promising to further their careers and is serving his fourth prison sentence for child sexual abuse.
Once a youth player at Chelsea, Bennell is most closely associated with Crewe Alexandra, where he worked in the 1980s and 1990s. Bennell also ran summer holiday camps in the UK, often held at Butlin’s, youth football tours and “soccer camps” in the US and it was in there that his crimes first came to light.
In 1994, police in Jacksonville, Florida, charged him with sexually abusing a 13-year-old British boy on a tour. The trip reportedly involved young footballers aged 11 to 14.
According to a court report in the Birmingham Mail at the time, Bennell was arrested after the boy returned home from a camp and told his parents he had been abused. Bennell was sentenced to four years in a US prison.
A source close to the Scottish FA review said that they would share the fresh evidence with counterparts at the English FA. They said: “Testimony which speaks to a connection between a high profile offender in Scotland and a very high profile offender in England would be included in our report.”
Manchester City confirmed its own internal abuse investigation had established that Bennell took youth teams to tournaments in Scotland.
The Scottish FA said it would be willing to meet both men, listen to their concerns and offer support.
A spokesman said: “The chief executive has issued a heartfelt apology on behalf of Scottish football to those with personal experience of sexual abuse in our national game. We acknowledge the very deep impact experiences of sexual abuse has had on many individuals and that is why we commissioned the independent review.”
Kelly denies having any connection with McCafferty, Bennell or Dunn.
The Goal Machine
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Football child abuse victims lured by promises of stardom
Marc Horne
January 18 2020, 12:01am, The Times
Hampden Park, the national stadium of the Scottish Football Association, which has commissioned a review into the abuseJEFF HOLMES/PA
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Pot-bellied and yellow-fingered from decades of chain smoking, Bill Kelly was an unlikely Svengali figure.
Yet for generations of boys growing up in the council estates of West Lothian he was the man who could make their dreams of becoming a professional footballer come true.
As manager of Uphall Saints, the most successful team in the county, and secretary of the district football association, his influence and connections to the talent scouts, or “jackets”, were unrivalled.
Now, decades later, survivors of his abuse have come forward claiming that Kelly was an active part of an organised paedophile network involving some of the most notorious abusers in Britain’s sporting history.
His modus operandi was to single out boys, shower them with gifts and attention and tell them they had a great chance of making it, but only if they attended additional trials and training sessions.
One such player was James, now 62, who, at the age of 12, was told by Kelly he could become team captain.
“That was the start of the invites round to his flat on a Saturday after games,” he recalled.
“He was very well connected and I had no reason to doubt he could deliver on the promises he was making. There were two or three of us and Kelly would start by discussing how the game had gone. Then he would say, ‘It’s time to loosen off before training tomorrow, so let’s get a hot bath.’
“After that, he’d pick us off one by one and take us to his bedroom. It went from playing and touching to rape.”
Kelly would take his victims to the Olympic Health Club, now closed, in Edinburgh’s Lothian Road.”
James and the others found themselves being paraded in front of Kelly’s “friends” in the sauna.
“It was nowhere near where he lived but now it is obvious why he chose it,” he said. “It was a place where men, who had similar desires to him, would meet.”
James believes one regular attender was Harry Dunn, a stalwart of Edinburgh youth football, who went on to scout for Rangers, Chelsea and Liverpool. He died in 2017, while awaiting trial on child sex charges.
James outgrew Uphall Saints, telling no one about the abuse. Newspaper reports described it as a “prolific feeder team” and reveal the club invited representatives of Celtic FC to an event, thanking them “for the kind and practical interest they have shown in the [club].”
In 1983, Malcolm joined Uphall Saints as an enthusiastic and gifted 13-year-old. Within months he had been invited to Kelly’s flat where he was told to try on swimming trunks and shown gay pornography before being subjected to horrendous sexual abuse.
Malcolm claims Kelly and McCafferty, who he recognised as the trainer of neighbouring Fauldhouse United and is now a convicted paedophile, abused him together many times.
A year later he accompanied Kelly on a trip to Blackpool, enticed by suggestions it could lead to him being signed by a big club.
“I was told a man wanted to meet me. Kelly told me he was the lead scout for Crewe and his name was Barry Bennell. He said that if I showed my ‘appreciation’ then he could open doors and get me noticed.”
Malcolm claimed Bennell then abused him, alongside Kelly.
Marc Horne
January 18 2020, 12:01am, The Times
Hampden Park, the national stadium of the Scottish Football Association, which has commissioned a review into the abuseJEFF HOLMES/PA
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Pot-bellied and yellow-fingered from decades of chain smoking, Bill Kelly was an unlikely Svengali figure.
Yet for generations of boys growing up in the council estates of West Lothian he was the man who could make their dreams of becoming a professional footballer come true.
As manager of Uphall Saints, the most successful team in the county, and secretary of the district football association, his influence and connections to the talent scouts, or “jackets”, were unrivalled.
Now, decades later, survivors of his abuse have come forward claiming that Kelly was an active part of an organised paedophile network involving some of the most notorious abusers in Britain’s sporting history.
His modus operandi was to single out boys, shower them with gifts and attention and tell them they had a great chance of making it, but only if they attended additional trials and training sessions.
One such player was James, now 62, who, at the age of 12, was told by Kelly he could become team captain.
“That was the start of the invites round to his flat on a Saturday after games,” he recalled.
“He was very well connected and I had no reason to doubt he could deliver on the promises he was making. There were two or three of us and Kelly would start by discussing how the game had gone. Then he would say, ‘It’s time to loosen off before training tomorrow, so let’s get a hot bath.’
“After that, he’d pick us off one by one and take us to his bedroom. It went from playing and touching to rape.”
Kelly would take his victims to the Olympic Health Club, now closed, in Edinburgh’s Lothian Road.”
James and the others found themselves being paraded in front of Kelly’s “friends” in the sauna.
“It was nowhere near where he lived but now it is obvious why he chose it,” he said. “It was a place where men, who had similar desires to him, would meet.”
James believes one regular attender was Harry Dunn, a stalwart of Edinburgh youth football, who went on to scout for Rangers, Chelsea and Liverpool. He died in 2017, while awaiting trial on child sex charges.
James outgrew Uphall Saints, telling no one about the abuse. Newspaper reports described it as a “prolific feeder team” and reveal the club invited representatives of Celtic FC to an event, thanking them “for the kind and practical interest they have shown in the [club].”
In 1983, Malcolm joined Uphall Saints as an enthusiastic and gifted 13-year-old. Within months he had been invited to Kelly’s flat where he was told to try on swimming trunks and shown gay pornography before being subjected to horrendous sexual abuse.
Malcolm claims Kelly and McCafferty, who he recognised as the trainer of neighbouring Fauldhouse United and is now a convicted paedophile, abused him together many times.
A year later he accompanied Kelly on a trip to Blackpool, enticed by suggestions it could lead to him being signed by a big club.
“I was told a man wanted to meet me. Kelly told me he was the lead scout for Crewe and his name was Barry Bennell. He said that if I showed my ‘appreciation’ then he could open doors and get me noticed.”
Malcolm claimed Bennell then abused him, alongside Kelly.
Baladloyal1872
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Brace your self before reading that article. I feel sick in my soul from just reading that. The victims of this are some of the most deserving of our pity I can even imagine. I swear to God if it were the other way around I drive a boldozer into Ibrox myself. For a nominally religious people Celtic don’t act like people who have any care of an after life. May God damn anyone who had anything to do with this or covered it up.
Baladloyal1872
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This needs to be a UK wide and probably international investigation.
Baladloyal1872
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And Dunn was a sick POS who is burning in hell right now. But he seemed to operate quite independently of the rest of the Rangers organization.
Baladloyal1872
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Even this still seems like the tip of the iceberg. Marc Horne tries to connect the dots but we know there is more out there. Like all the photos found at Celtic Park. That one boy who was murdered.
Also we have no idea how this thing started. Or more scary when/if it ended. We know these crimes happened in England and the US too. We need a full inquiry at the British government level and with US Government involvement.
Also we have no idea how this thing started. Or more scary when/if it ended. We know these crimes happened in England and the US too. We need a full inquiry at the British government level and with US Government involvement.
Bobafett Bear
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And there you have the connection down south in print and by the looks of it a sworn statement!
buckster9719
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I apologise for the typing mistakes above - I was upset when I wrote them. However today in the TImes newspaper you can read the full story
buckster9719
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I gave the Times last week over 116 different documents of evidence. Scottish Court and tribunal service documents from the trial in 1987 - the proof that Bill Kelly knew Jim McCafferty from 1970 onwards. Proof that Bill Kelly was West Lothian football association secretary whilst Jim McCafferty coached Armadale Thistle - - proof that one week after BK was convicted Jim McCafferty resigned from his coaching position. Proof that Celtic awarded end of season medals to players at Uphal Saints. Proof that there were trips to Blackpool and Spain under the guise of football tournaments where Barry Bennell abused me and others.
Disgusting state of affairs, Buckster. I applaud you for your bravery in coming forward and I sincerely hope that you are given some kind of justice. I say that with the realisation that you will never get back these years of terror and pain that these lowlifes inflicted upon you.
Bobafett Bear
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A harrowing read my friend and I won’t even try to imagine your pain and suffering,after your heartache you felt,your strength to fight on for justice is truly humbling buddy.
These new revelations take this to another level and must now warrant a full UK independent enquiry into the sexual exploitation of children in football.
Again B9719 thank you for your honesty and input as you have 1st hand details of this.
These new revelations take this to another level and must now warrant a full UK independent enquiry into the sexual exploitation of children in football.
Again B9719 thank you for your honesty and input as you have 1st hand details of this.
Thasunke Witko
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So sorry to hear your sordid past through no fault of your own, cap doffed for being brave enough firstly to come forward and secondly for having to keep and then reveal stuff that would bring those memories back, you truly are the bravest of the brave having to show and tell what can only be described as bad memories.
brand69
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I salute you sir and wish you nothing but the very best in your persuit for justice.
The Goal Machine
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I salute you sir and wish you nothing but the very best in your persuit for justice.
Buckster, I hope you get the justice you deserve. You are correct this is not just about the other side, if there are perpretators who are linked to our club, so be it, they deserve the hand of justice for their evil.
Stay strong my friend.
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With this brave gentleman coming forward along with the articles today by Marc Horne, clearly shows there were links in England reference these perpetrators.
People that have been following this thread will know we have said this from day one.
The documentary that will be coming this year will also highlight this fact. I can also tell you that people in the background are in contact with MSP’s again asking for their comments, not only on this subject but other recent developments. Again anything that can be posted on the thread will be. I know you will understand that victims confidentiality has to be respected no matter what.
People that have been following this thread will know we have said this from day one.
The documentary that will be coming this year will also highlight this fact. I can also tell you that people in the background are in contact with MSP’s again asking for their comments, not only on this subject but other recent developments. Again anything that can be posted on the thread will be. I know you will understand that victims confidentiality has to be respected no matter what.
ChildOfGoth
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Is this a psychological act to say Celtic are taking some control ? Victims get quelled n controlled ?As it’s public knowledge now what a disgrace !
thanks for the info on pm,much appreciated!
Regional Network Meeting
Eventbrite - Scottish FA Wellbeing and Protection Department presents Regional Network Meeting - Wednesday, 11 March 2020 in Glasgow, Glasgow. Find event and ticket information.
Agree it is wayyyy Out of line . Filthy .
Bobafett Bear
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Got me thinking,bold and brass and to do this and show’s the line they are taking,Torbett/Bennell was the same,but their day is coming and will alway’s be associated with the sexual exploitation of children.
Just when you think you heard the worst,it’s overtaken by another horror story.
AYEBrox
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Well done! All the best to you & others who take strength & hope from your actions.
Allybear
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@buckster9719 I hope you get the answers backed by proper action you very much deserve. In fighting to restore the honour for all those affected by these horrible people, you are doing something very honourable indeed. Look forward toward the better days that are ahead, and Much respect to you all. Keep going
Fingers1872
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No need for apologies mate, I for one admire your courage in coming forward. I hope you can draw strength from the support given by posters on this forum. I long for the day when you and your fellow victims are given some sort of closure on this whole affair.
Grigo Yossarian
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Massive respect that you’ve kept yourself together in these horrific circumstances mate.
Grigo Yossarian
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Brilliant work mate.
Not been on the site for a a wee bit, i have kept up though. all i can say is keep up the good work bears. the truth will out and it is getting closer,the bears and bearettes on this,the efforts that have been and are being made are astounding,these efforts are not about having a dig, they are of human decency, the reward they seek is not finanacial, its about watching an RSPCC advert on tv,and not have to turn it over because you turned your back on the kids abused, their reward will be their clear conscience, and for justice to be served on all the monsters involved regardless, of race,religion,colour, creed, or politics, once again i salute the victims, you have and continue to be an inspiration, the courage and dignity you have shown is beyond measure, the determination time and effort of the people working on this is truly heartwarming ,keep up the good work,
Ps for the Lurkers big storm coming,the rats are already leaving the
ship look at youre share price
hoho
Ps for the Lurkers big storm coming,the rats are already leaving the
ship look at youre share price
hoho
The Ranger
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Too buckster 9719 and anyone else who has been affected by these evil people. Never blame you're selfs you's have done nothing wrong. No one on this site will ever judge you's. Anyone anywhere who try to judge you's are evil ,evil people. Welldone to everyone who are putting so much effort into exposing these animals
Bluetothecore
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And the 2 men that robbed watches from glen eagles jewellers Got 30 years between the two of them!
what is worse stealing watches or sexually abusing 100s of innocent children sentences would suggest stealing absolutely disgusting this country!!
Bluetothecore
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What is in the SFA rule book as regards to any club found to have paedophile within it?
have they not just changed it recently? Reason I ask is it’s my opinion that separate entity f.c had placed men in a position at the sfa which would stop anything coming to light, no rules in place if it did come out so they wouldn’t be punished
Or a rule that would protect them otherwise.
just like the SNP done just as all this was coming to light after been hidden for years (say that with tongue in cheek) they decided to make it that they could not investigate sporting institutions now if that’s not a coincidence I don’t know what is, as all the top place SNP mob seem to be one religion and support one team again no coincidence!
have they not just changed it recently? Reason I ask is it’s my opinion that separate entity f.c had placed men in a position at the sfa which would stop anything coming to light, no rules in place if it did come out so they wouldn’t be punished
Or a rule that would protect them otherwise.
just like the SNP done just as all this was coming to light after been hidden for years (say that with tongue in cheek) they decided to make it that they could not investigate sporting institutions now if that’s not a coincidence I don’t know what is, as all the top place SNP mob seem to be one religion and support one team again no coincidence!
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Grigo Yossarian
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I couldn’t have put it better BTTC. You just can’t legislate for inconsistencies like this.
We’ve really got it so wrong.
Edit - Legislates the wrong word, because that’s what we should do to sort it.
Bobafett Bear
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What was the legislation that was pulled from the SFA weeks before that initial report was due out,can anyone remember as it seemed pivotal.
Pretty sure it’s section 5 of the children’s act 1995
Bluetothecore
Well-Known Member
Not sure that how I ask bud, SFA change legislation and the SNP change legislation. It absolutely stinks!!!
Bobafett Bear
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Bobafett Bear
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There was a post and some one showed a screen shot of what was pulled,any other folk have that screenshot or related info?
Mosset Bear
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Can anyone confirm that Adidas are definitely getting involved with the scum? If they are, I'll be firing off the same message that I sent to new Balance, informing them that if they deal with that vile club I'll bin my Adidas running and gym gear. I will also inform them that I won't buy any of their stuff in the future.
Hopefully they'll have the decency to reply, unlike NB who point blank refused to answer my emails.
Once again, well done to all the folk on here working to see justice done.
Hopefully they'll have the decency to reply, unlike NB who point blank refused to answer my emails.
Once again, well done to all the folk on here working to see justice done.
3600superally1968
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Buckster. I admire your honesty.
Can't be easy.
As fellow Bears have already said. Hope justice prevails.
We are all together with you in this.
Can't be easy.
As fellow Bears have already said. Hope justice prevails.
We are all together with you in this.
macjohn212
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Your in our thoughts Buckster...
Bump, this need to be on page 1
BigSteve
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Disgraceful. What is wrong with this country.
And can we confirm the huge drop in share price is linked to what is coming with regards this thread?
