Celtic verdict: Latest derby disappointment demonstrates their problem isn't Rangers but themselves

Remember when Christie couldnt play and Forrest was injured the narrative was they were weakened?
Both available and played today. Strongest team out, Id argue Welsh is better than Julian, yet they still couldnt beat us. We had a centre back at RB and a midfield without Jack or a fully fit Arfield. We also had 2 extra games over the past 2 weeks including a very physically and mentally draining game on Thursday. Manager and players dealing with the fallout and no real time to prepare, yet they still couldnt beat us.
They were at home, yet they still couldnt beat us.
Facts are at their very best they are still in our shadow.
 
Started reading then thought, nnah
Same. Just couldn’t be arsed.

The league is won. Winning the game would’ve been nice but the draw is just as good for us because the only tangible thing we wanted was to keep our invincible run going. We achieved that even after the exertions of Thursday. Having good spells against us in those circumstances doesn’t show they’re better than us.

They're delighted with that result because they think it shows there’s only a wee bit of luck between the teams.
 
"Rangers have fared well on such contentious moments this season, it must be said, and it is remarkable that 15 months have now elapsed since a penalty was awarded against them in the Premiership."
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We probably played at about 60% today and they still could not beat us.This journo can deceive himself and his readership about how close to us he thinks they are but they are well short and their better players Edourd and Ajer will be offski next season.
 
These guys can't possibly watch the games or they know fcuk all what they are talking about.

I'll concede that overthe 90 minutes they were probably better than us. But at no time were they dominant. The longer the game went we looked the more likely to nick it.
 
'there is no compelling evidence that Celtic’s decline is guaranteed to take up a permanence beyond this unreal Covid-19 season'

...based solely on parts of today's game I have to assume.

They had three loanees starting an OF game and not because of injuries, why?, because too many of their own players are not trusted by their staff. Add in an ageing captain, star striker who is looking for the exit and a bad history of recruitment in general and I don't see a quick fix at all. Happy days.
 
Isn’t the truth that Celtic, like most other teams, raise their game against Rangers? Against the rest, they lapse into mediocrity. And like the others, they are unable to beat us despite the extra effort.
Exactly...they were trying to show the GFITW its worth opening their wallets for a season ticket renewal.

Didnae work.
 
Why compare their total number of attempts on goal with our number of shots on target - surely a direct comparison would have been the ‘proper’ way to do it. Unless you were deliberately seeking to peddle a line.:rolleyes:
So that your average yahoo thinks that they are still the dominant team in Scotland 7 that we are only winning this season due to how badly they`ve been affected by Covid
 
"Yet, however daft it might sound, there is no compelling evidence that Celtic’s decline is guaranteed to take up a permanence beyond this unreal Covid-19 season, for all the damage done across six months of self-inflicted ills."

Keep telling yourself that Timothy....
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20 points behind and they still believe this crap.

Long may it continue
 
With a bit of luck they will continue to believe this kind of nonsense, will only be to our benefit.
A continuation of the sort of delusion which has seen us win the title 20 points ahead of them.
 
Andrew Smith's demonic ranting in The Hootsman:

"Celtic’s problem hasn’t so much been Rangers but themselves. For the second time in succession against their bitterest rivals, they proved unable to perm every metric of superiority into a victory. A 1-1 draw might have stopped the losing rot in the fixture, but it denied their supporters the win they craved. And all the product of age old deficiencies rearing up again.

John Kennedy might seek to talk up his team. Understandable, when they were dominant, slick and creative in spells, and had their visitors on the rack with the intelligent manner they fashioned a raft of opportunities. However, these virtues are more than offset by Celtic’s bog-standard vices.

There has been a lot of rot talked this week about the tide turning in this fixture. Across the past two seasons, the clubs have met six times. Rangers have outplayed Celtic in three, with the roles reversed in the other three. The fact that the Parkhead men have taken one point from six now in back-to-back encounters they have commanded betrays the shortcomings that have consistently let them down.

In this season’s competitions, Celtic haven’t been able to to deliver on even the most meagre target. What their followers demanded from them against the unbeaten Premiership champions was a victory to ward off any threat of a league campaign without loss to match the exploits of Brendan Rodgers’ side in the 2016-17 top flight. For it to prove beyond them was ridiculous when they had 16 goal attempts as they restricted their opponents to three efforts on target.

The Ibrox men, entitled to be weary in body and mind following all that went on during and after their Europa League exit against Slavia Prague on Thursday and with the league settled, appeared there for the taking. Yet, as Dundee United, Ross County and now Rangers have demonstrated in the past month, there are certain givens that have been taken from Celtic this season.

Your defence can be opened up consistently against them without punishment - as was true for the Tayside men a fortnight ago - and you can score against them even if you put them under precious little pressure..the case in their 1-0 loss at Dingwall that ended Neil Lennon’s tenure.

The derby draw was a mix of both. The Alfredo Morelos 38th minute equaliser from a corner poorly-defended zonally by Celtic - a la County - means Rangers’ past five derby goals have all ensued from set-pieces. That is an atrocious trend but is telling as to how the Parkhead men, with more craft in their ranks, have not been prospering in the fixture as they should have.

In the fixture this season, Celtic have made little from a lot; their adversaries much from relatively little. They had hardly been up the pitch when Jonjoe Kenny needlessly conceded the corner from which they capitalised. Before it, though, Celtic should have been three-up. The sweeping move that allowed Mohamed Elyounoussi to head in the 23rd minute opener was typical of the pattern that had developed; Celtic switching play rythmically and breaking the visitors’ lines time and again.

It would be easy to focus on the penalty incident six minutes after Celtic claimed the lead as the source of their troubles. There was the slightest contact when Borna Barisic slid in, but potentially not enough for referee Willie Collum to award a penalty. Certainly the Frenchman did exaggerate the touch on him in how he hit the ground, with Collum decreeing that worthy of a yellow card for simulation. Rangers have fared well on such contentious moments this season, it must be said, and it is remarkable that 15 months have now elapsed since a penalty was awarded against them in the Premiership.

Yet, Celtic’s failure to claim a win their play merited was all about a growing softness in their opponents’ final third across the second half of this morale-sapping campaign. Allan McGregor may have made a series of saves, but they were all stops comfortable for him. He had no ‘how-did-he-block-that’ moments as he did when he kept the Ibrox club’s goal intact in the pair’s January meeting.

Callum McGregor and David Turnbull both drove the ball straight at the Rangers keeper when boring down on goal, but the chief culprit was Edouard. A delightful one-two with Turnbull that sliced the visitors’ backline apart on the stroke of half-time should have been his moment. Instead, from the centre of goal only 14 yards out, he couldn’t find power or direction in unconvincingly knocking an effort straight at McGregor, who let the ball go through his legs before clasping it as it dribbled towards goal. Edouard was similarly blunt from a glaring opening in the second period, which came on the back of the first ending with Elyounoussi lacking the clean contact from a header required to stop McGregor being able to flick it with a hand.

What the latest confrontation between the pair revealed was nothing very much, in the final analysis. These are not two teams whose relative squad strength or capabilities should see 20 points separating them, but Kennedy has acknowledged Rangers’ consistency has earned them that chasm.

The Ibrox men have an edge and ruthlessness that has allowed them to win 28 and draw five of their 33 league games, and they deserve huge plaudits for such an outstanding record. Yet, however daft it might sound, there is no compelling evidence that Celtic’s decline is guaranteed to take up a permanence beyond this unreal Covid-19 season, for all the damage done across six months of self-inflicted ills."

 
The 7 stages of grief
  • Shock and denial. This is a state of disbelief and numbed feelings.
  • Pain and guilt. ...
  • Anger and bargaining. ...
  • Depression. ...
  • The upward turn. ...
  • Reconstruction and working through. ...
  • Acceptance and hope.
 
With a bit of luck they will continue to believe this kind of nonsense, will only be to our benefit.
A continuation of the sort of delusion which has seen us win the title 20 points ahead of them.

Exactly! let them continue to think that they are better than they really are. That will give us an easier ride in the league and allow us to focus on Europe which is where we need to be.
 
The last 2 games we have played them the players haven't even got out of 2nd gear and the best they could get was a draw today, today was a big game for them and we didn't break a sweat - yet they still couldn't beat us.
 
Laughed at this bit

"means Rangers’ past five derby goals have all ensued from set-pieces."

If he is counting Goldsons second in October as coming from a set piece and ignoring the wide play between Arfield and Kamara, the block of the initial shot and then the tap in as a set piece then he would have been as well writing

"means Rangers’ past five derby goals have all ensued from kick off."

Bitter lady's front bottom. Glad he is hurting.
 
That is so much serious hurt there with so many plays on the figures/stats to help him say"they urnae that good and we urnae that bad.
He is now trying to make some goals worth more than others lolz..
Rangers working out that Sellik are piss at defending set plays is somehow not as good as an open play goal: it is called finding a teams weakness and hitting it-HARD Andrew.

You know? How sport works.

I just picture him with a bottle of beer (cheap), wiping away Timmy tears as he typed that out -breaking his keyboard in the process- interspersed with deep sobs with snotters tramlines out his nostrils.

Signed Neic Lennon pic next to him.
 
I really hope they keep thinking like Andrew.

If they are blind to how good a system Rangers have and keep thinking it is all about them then we should all be stacking up on fireworks and 56 banners for the end of next season.
 
"Rangers last 5 Derby goals have ensued from set pieces"

Bloody rangers, finding an opponets weakness and exploiting it. Shouldn't be allowed.
 
Their problem is that their bitterness doesn’t permit them to accept reality.

They were probably the better side over the ninety minutes, but the idea that their superiority was such that not taking maximum points was something of a travesty is part of the reason they fail.

It was the same story after the New Years game when they convinced themselves they’d given us a right going over. They hadn’t, and they didn’t do it earlier either.

But I’m happy for them to continue labouring under this delusion. Until they wake up and accept they’re nowhere near as good as they think they are (despite all the evidence to the contrary) they’ll continue stumbling along in our shadow.
 
"Yet, however daft it might sound, there is no compelling evidence that Celtic’s decline is guaranteed to take up a permanence beyond this unreal Covid-19 season, for all the damage done across six months of self-inflicted ills."

Keep telling yourself that Timothy....
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An 'unreal Covid-19 season' what as unreal as awarding a title nine games short of a season and when not arithmetically won.
 
56% possession for them equals ‘dominant’? Since when? They were the home team and just shaded the possession stats against a team that had played with 10 men, then 9 men, for long spells against a quality European team just a couple of days ago.

It was the slowest, tamest OF game I have ever seen, with nothing really at stake other than a bit of pride for them. Having no fans only emphasised the flatness. Even then, we sat back for a lot of the game, after a long 90 minutes on Thursday, then looked like snatching it in the last 10 minutes.

In terms of points and goals for/against, we are having one of the greatest seasons any Scottish team has ever had. Even if they had turned 3 of their draws into wins, they would still be miles behind.

Are they so twisted and bitter that they can’t see that their failure is not so much their inconsistency, but that it is the fact WE have been so consistent?

Half of their team will be away next season and replaced with cheaper alternatives. Not to mention a new CEO, manager, and coaching staff to bed in. Is this journalists head in the sand when he says there is no compelling evidence to suggest a long term decline into next season?

There are in denial, and the longer they are, the more they will fall and the more we will prosper. It bodes well for next season.
 
"Rangers have fared well on such contentious moments this season, it must be said, and it is remarkable that 15 months have now elapsed since a penalty was awarded against them in the Premiership."
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Wouldn’t be a Celtic fan if he didn’t twist the facts to create a story.
Like excluding penalties in other competitions or making the time gap seem longer than it is by omitting mention of a nearly five month close season or telling us where the referees erred in our favour.
 
He fails to omit that off the Celtic starting 11 today ...

eduoard - away
Ajer - away
Laxalt - away
Kenny - away
El yanoussie - away
Christie - potentially away

going into next season they only have Griffiths as a striker, only big julie Anne in defence
 
Remember when Christie couldnt play and Forrest was injured the narrative was they were weakened?
Both available and played today. Strongest team out, Id argue Welsh is better than Julian, yet they still couldnt beat us. We had a centre back at RB and a midfield without Jack or a fully fit Arfield. We also had 2 extra games over the past 2 weeks including a very physically and mentally draining game on Thursday. Manager and players dealing with the fallout and no real time to prepare, yet they still couldnt beat us.
They were at home, yet they still couldnt beat us.
Facts are at their very best they are still in our shadow.
Remember when they had "Games in hand"
 
The narrative once again seems to be they dominated. They didn’t! They had a good spell for 20 mins of the first half then the 2nd half was pretty flat and an even game.
They had 2 weeks to prepare for the game. We had 2 day after 90 mins of Europa football followed by a rammy and they still couldn't take advantage.
 
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