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Why Rangers and Celtic should be compensating child sex abuse victims a former first minister says.
But But read the conclusions in the report "nobody knew"Why Rangers and Celtic should be compensating child sex abuse victims a former first minister says.
On Radio Shortbread you say..............no surprise then, maybe a Mark Daly contribution as well.
That's the one, the same one who managed to get his "no record of Gordon Neely being reported to the police by Rangers" in it though.The one who allowed hard evidence he had previously secured to be ignored in the review ?
That Mark Daly ?
Which former first minister?Why Rangers and Celtic should be compensating child sex abuse victims a former first minister says.
That's the one, the same one who managed to get his "no record of Gordon Neely being reported to the police by Rangers" in it though.
Can only be Jack McConnell surely.Which former first minister?
I was thinking Henry McCleish is usually the go to on football matters?Can only be Jack McConnell surely.
Pretty sure if I was a journalist and I asked if there was a record of a crime being reported 25/30 years ago and the answer was no, my follow up questions would be, is that unusual? Does it mean that it wasn't reported?Exactly G36.
‘Unfortunately’ he applied different standards of proof to BJK kicking Torbett out ‘as soon as he knew’ mate.
It trully is beyond fucking disgusting that they try and portray this an OF issueAre there any victims currently relating to Rangers trying to get compensation? If there are and they are due it, it should be paid no question. But the only case I have seen is the Neely one, I believe? The one that was reported to the police. The one where the boys own father, a policeman himself, didn't want to take any further. Are there any more?
It didn’t say.Which former first minister?
That's the one, the same one who managed to get his "no record of Gordon Neely being reported to the police by Rangers" in it though.
Pretty sure if I was a journalist and I asked if there was a record of a crime being reported 25/30 years ago and the answer was no, my follow up questions would be, is that unusual? Does it mean that it wasn't reported?
Of course maybe if I had asked those follow up questions and the answers didn't fit my agenda, I'd leave them out my story altogether.
Exactly, the media are doing all they can to make it a combined issue for both clubs and the silence from our club has let them control the narrative to do just thatI have no problems of Rangers compensating any proven abuse cases that happened at the club. However I am sick and tired of our club being mentioned alongside these scummy bastards, who have covered up 4 decades of the the biggest paed ring in the history of British sports.
They are desperate to try and silence us, because we are the only ones wanting the scum held to account
No I'm sure it was along the lines of the police couldn't actually find the paper record of it after being stored and moved between buildings over the long period of time. That sort of record was never digitised and stored on computer. As far as I remember but happy to be corrected.I don't know exactly what Daly might have been referring to but a Freedom Of Information (FOI) request was submitted to the police about us and Neely and the police's official response was that FOI provisions did not allow them to answer the request for information (I believe because FOI does not cover individual cases).
The Record ran a story from someone claiming to be the victim, who said Rangers never reported itNo I'm sure it was along the lines of the police couldn't actually find the paper record of it after being stored and moved between buildings over the long period of time. That sort of record was never digitised and stored on computer. As far as I remember but happy to be corrected.
Basically they couldn't actually physically find it, which obviously sounds better than saying they could find no record of it which obviously implies that we lied about it.
Reporters are scum!
Are there any victims currently relating to Rangers trying to get compensation? If there are and they are due it, it should be paid no question. But the only case I have seen is the Neely one, I believe? The one that was reported to the police. The one where the boys own father, a policeman himself, didn't want to take any further. Are there any more?
We received information that there were three potential cases relating to Neely a few weeks ago mate.
Of course, he died years ago, so validating them will be very difficult.
Can't be him. He was given money for a "think tank" review of Scottish Football by the SFA who promptly binned the consultation report. I think they might have gone for someone more "pro-SFA"I was thinking Henry McCleish is usually the go to on football matters?
How many were from Neely when he was at Rangers ?
Even if it was, if a report was made and the police never acted on it then would the victim know?The Record ran a story from someone claiming to be the victim, who said Rangers never reported it
Of course, they never named him, so it's impossible to know if they spoke to the right person
Well said CLF.
He tried to bring some kind of balance to his significant evidence on Celtic, and that was the best he could do.
Now they have latched onto it, and he has become invisible, which is extremely disappointing for a so called professional journalist who they invited to support this review.
They ignored what Hibs, as well as Celtic, actually knew & reached for a soft issue to pull Rangers in.
He has lost any integrity he had mate.
Did they state their opinion on the Catholic Church and how they should be compensating those victims obviously not.Why Rangers and Celtic should be compensating child sex abuse victims a former first minister says.
Just keep asking them if they will support a fully Independent inquiry and put their name behind it, see how far that gets.
You're right that's the worst of it, for the past 40+ years the press have given SFA concern for the victims.Even if it was, if a report was made and the police never acted on it then would the victim know?
The story was meant and worked as a hatchet job to bring us in to it.
The worst of it is a victim of CSA was used as a pawn by the press for a story.
Any victim of abuse at Rangers should be compensated and publicly issued with an apology. That applies to any victims from any club. And it's not even enough for them to be honest.We received information that there were three potential cases relating to Neely a few weeks ago mate.
Of course, he died years ago, so validating them will be very difficult.
And another thing. The SFA whitewash that nobody in Scottish football knew. What a crock of shit. The dogs in the street knew what was going on at that rancid club. I knew the reputation of celtic boys club 25 years ago as a 10 year old boy in a different city ffs.
How many different accounts of Jock Stein knowing has there been? 3 or 4? Booting his arse out the door?
Hugh Birt sacked for speaking up in the 80s? Their investigation into themselves that they reported on in their own magazine?
No evidence anyone knew? People are being convicted of murder in this country on less evidence.
Any victim of abuse at Rangers should be compensated and publicly issued with an apology. That applies to any victims from any club. And it's not even enough for them to be honest.
It's a horrible thing that can unfortunately happen anywhere. Safeguards must be improved to minimise future incidents.
But of course, the real scandal is that people want to muddy the waters on this issue.
Some clubs had these deviants operating at their club, oblivious to the fact that they were monsters. Some clubs at best covered up for these monsters, at worst actively facilitated their crimes. It's hardly the same thing.
I had some mentally challenged telling me that years ago Rangers told a neely abuse victim seeking damages that it was an “oldco” issue and nothing to with “newco”
was part of the standard “sevco / yiz ur deid” shite you get from them
any truth in that?
No I'm sure it was along the lines of the police couldn't actually find the paper record of it after being stored and moved between buildings over the long period of time. That sort of record was never digitised and stored on computer. As far as I remember but happy to be corrected.
Basically they couldn't actually physically find it, which obviously sounds better than saying they could find no record of it which obviously implies that we lied about it.
Reporters are scum!
I had some mentally challenged telling me that years ago Rangers told a neely abuse victim seeking damages that it was an “oldco” issue and nothing to with “newco”
was part of the standard “sevco / yiz ur deid” shite you get from them
any truth in that?
Have Radio Shortbread or anyone in the media EVER said "no record of <insert member of Celtic paedophile ring here> being reported to the police by Celtic" ?That's the one, the same one who managed to get his "no record of Gordon Neely being reported to the police by Rangers" in it though.
Nobody? Seriously? Big Jock Knew. Fact.But But read the conclusions in the report "nobody knew"
The club do not seem to be capable or willing to defend themselves on any issues, The fact the sms media are trying to make what happened at Ibrox comparable to the abuse at the cesspit is an absolute disgrace,Surely someone at the club can find it in themselves to defend the club.I have no problems of Rangers compensating any proven abuse cases that happened at the club. However I am sick and tired of our club being mentioned alongside these scummy bastards, who have covered up 4 decades of the the biggest paed ring in the history of British sports.
Probably asked one of the SpivsUnfortunately I think that this is correct.
The thing is, of course the SFA are going to conclude nobody knew.Exactly.
They never even bothered their arses to ensure that PUBLICLY AVAILABLE information was included, for example the ones you mention, never mind trying to dig deeper.
Mainly Celtic evidence ignored & of course Hibs evidence in relation to withholding Neely evidence. Of course, Rod Petrie is currently SFA President. What a coincidence eh ?