Official Compromise reached over Old firm ticketing - SPFL announcement

[ClockworkOrange]

Nothing to do with being on camera. We are being told that we are getting more tickets than them. We will get 2700 max based on the allocation the bheasts give to euro teams. The rangers support will be stuck in the corner whilst that lot get premier unobstructed views when they come to our stadium.

Some don't care about their view or impact on other supporters who will miss out at Ibrox to accommodate the bheasts according to you. Great outlook that is.

You're now bringing up things you didn't mention in the post I replied to, which was about being stuck in the corner with a shite view. Most fans who are in favour of some kind of away support at Parkhead won't care about this.

Due to the layout of their stadium, 2500 fans having a premier, unobstructed view at Parkhead for the away support is virtually impossible.

 

[Empire]

Happy with Bisgrove today?

That’s utterly pathetic and you should know better.

 

[HeyBert]

Not sure how this is brilliant news for the traveling support , there’s 12 to 15k register for every away game , you’ll be lucky if a thousand go to MYGers for this , you always got at least one ticket a season with the old allocation for parkheed , they’ll still be gold members nowhere near this fixture next season

 

[muttley]

"Celtc stance pays off" is the headline

Brenda gets a joke of a punishment yesterday, and now this shambles. Just give them the keys to both the SPFL and SFA. Its more than disappointing.

 

[kdy_bear]

That’s wrong. I know loads of folk who go to away games who think this is an awful decision

Me included.

 

[Oranje]

It’s a compromise in that it gets our support back into the away fixture. There was a lot of desire among a lot of our support to make this happen.

On the other hand we’ve conceded to celtics “Ibrox unsafe” narrative with all of the safety net stuff.

 

[Northglasgow]

Where are all these seats coming from to move the st holders affected by the scum
And the season ticket holders getting moved for the disabled access

 

[dh1963]

I had said the 2500 European allocation was the logical and best solution, as someone who loved going to Parkhead to see my team win. But I had thought that meant every one of our season holders got a seat at the game. If we are denying entry to just 1 so more Celtic fans are there, then it's a bad move.

 

[WilkinsBullet]

I agree more with those concerned about the positioning and restricted views rather than the 5% figure, so difficult to cast a vote due to that.

 

[hunter1rfc]

How any of our fans can see this as a win is beyond me. Stuck in the corner (I've been there) with a shite view.

See when pedro mendes rattled that ball in the net or when novo lobbed douglas

I never left the ground going know what my day was ruined standing in that corner

If you are behind the pillar just move

 

[ClockworkOrange]

Because it's not about the numbers.

It's about the impact on our own supporters. There are no STs for Europe. We are now offering discounted STs for the League and failing to guarantee those ST holders seats for the two biggest games of the season - and this is to accommodate the away support of our only domestic rival.

It also accommodates our own away support.

 

[yosser hughes]

Then maybe someone should contact Rangers cause they seem to think we are getting 5% of seats.

we probably are getting 5% of the seats , but 10% of that total may be used up by segregation

 

[temperance]

Why is there zero tickets the last two games? Honestly the spfl are just a parody at this point. Celtic literally told them to go and %^*& themselves and their rules and they do %^*& all.

Glad there’s a compromise. Long as our fans aren’t stuck in that shite restricted view bit of their midden and need to be ready for an escort to the stadium 3 hours before hand like has been the case the last few years.

Already saying we will be in the same area at the piggery.

 

[muttley]

Perhaps people just want to see their team play in the biggest away game of the season, and don't care about whether they're on camera or the view from their seat?

Yeah, great. A restricted view and stuck in a corner. Its a big win for us. Embarrassing stuff, tbh.

 

[Kinghornloyal]

we probably are getting 5% of the seats , but 10% of that total may be used up by segregation

Then we aren't getting 5% of the stadium. Segregation is the home teams problem. So away teams shouldn't lose tickets

 

[tazzabear]

Correction. It means 300 short.

How so?
Five percent of sixty thousand is more than five percent of fifty thousand.
I guess there is something in the fourteen pages that explains this.

 

[deBoersHeader]

That’s utterly pathetic and you should know better.

Id say it's a perfectly good question.

 

[Youngsa]

I think it’s bad. The continual compromises we are asked to make as a club and fan base are slowly eroding our identity. In terms of around 5% I suspect in real terms that will mean they get 2500 seats and we’ll get no more than that hence ‘around’ 5%

 

[Bknowe]

given its the same amount of away fans as a maximum , how is not comparable ?

Liverpool 2600

tims 2600

Because European games are NOT INCLUDED when you buy a ST.

Simple

 

[ClockworkOrange]

Yeah, great. A restricted view and stuck in a corner. Its a big win for us. Embarrassing stuff, tbh.

You'll need to point out where I said, "big win."

As previously said, none of these posts seem to acknowledge the different stadium layouts, the impossibility of our away support being placed elsewhere and the Piggery being a bigger stadium.

 

[westwoodrsc_gm]

Me included.

Why’s it an awful decision?

 

[temperance]

Hopefully could get raised by fan media and clarify if its 3000 tickets we are getting. If its anything less then its a poor deal from our end.

As previously stated, it will be 2,700 to accommodate segregation.

 

[kdy_bear]

I agree more with those concerned about the positioning and restricted views rather than the 5% figure, so difficult to cast a vote due to that.

That's my position as well. We're stuck in that shitty corner again by the look of things, while they get prime seating with great views and far more exposure to both the players on the field and those watching on TV.
The way the fans are sited means you'll see and hear that lot way more, willing to bet they're delighted with this. And, due to 'segregation concerns' you just know we'll get a bit less than agreed.

 

[Dashboard Jesus]

You're now bringing up things you didn't mention in the post I replied to, which was about being stuck in the corner with a shite view. Most fans who are in favour of some kind of away support at Parkhead won't care about this.

Due to the layout of their stadium, 2500 fans having a premier, unobstructed view at Parkhead for the away support is virtually impossible.

I posted a picture of our likely allocation at the pigsty which you omitted from your initial reply. Are the two proposed allocations proportionate?

You stated that folk won't care about the impact and have reinforced this view again in the quoted post. I find that selfish.

I would prefer to see our stadium filled with Rangers supporters and not see people having to be moved to accommodate that lot.

We won't agree so I will leave it there.

 

[BrooklynBlue]

That’s utterly pathetic and you should know better.

Yes, it's a cheap jibe.

But you've used this platform to criticise Bisgrove repeatedly. Now you're celebrating a decision by the same man who brought us Australia to remove games from Ibrox ST holders.

It's an awful look and another kick-in-balls for the loyal home support - you know the ones the Club like to patronise every now and again with a 'thank you'.

It might not be such a kick if the Club had used the opportunity to secure allocations across the country. But no. This is simply due to Celtic forcing the issue.

 

[Dado’s Napper]

It's first come first serve of when tickets become available.Some will miss out.But good to you and a few others got their wish and ST holders were fucked over in the process,all in the name of where's ma piggery ticket.

They are still going to see the game mate it’s not as big a deal as being made out stadium also adding seats this summer so chances of some missing are slim.

Its for the better deep down you know that the game is all we have to market in this country and having no away fans was killing the special and unique atmosphere and experience.

If I sat there I would be annoyed but not too much as I know I’ll get relocated.

I want our fans in their stadium too it’s sorely missed nobody can deny that especially us that go to away games too

 

[jweebear]

They used to get what 8k? So it's still a win for more Rangers fans long term.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Why’s it an awful decision?

Because some Rangers fans, with a season ticket, are likely to only get to attend 17 of our 19 Home league matches? The two they miss out on being the biggest games of the Home season.

 

[ekbear]

The fact that some of our own will miss out on seeing Rangers at our ground to accommodate more of that lot is a disgrace and a stain on this board.

 

[android]

You'll be able to wear your half n half scarf now

Wait to you hear him squeal when he doesn’t get allocated a Piggery tix. TBF, he’d be better just getting a ST for the Theatre of Screams and just be done with it

 

[Gringotts Dragon]

Where are the Board fighting over ticket allocations for Rugby Park, Easter Road, Pittodrie etc… or we just allowing the home team to dictate?

It’s quite clear what the differences are here. The % we get in these grounds is already way over the 5% mark

Also rangers v Celtic is the game the tv deal is centred on. Clearly different

 

[4KHDTV]

Best Derby in the world? what a load of bollocks your talking, for footballing entertainment its not even the best in the UK.

Opinions are like arseholes etc

 

[Holytown_loyal]

Why would it be?, as BF1 is unaffected with this new seating arrangement

Cause as I said in replying post they would rather the union bears in copland as far away as possible from them

 

[basiltherat]

However you try to paint it our board has caved
Perhaps some behind the scenes pressure from sponsors / tv came to bear but looks like another victory for them
If you think they are going to play by the rules or even more naively play fair with the allocations please send me your details as I have some magic beans that you'll want to buy

 

[Gringotts Dragon]

You'll be able to wear your half n half scarf now

Yeah I’m sure our fans get half and half scarves at every away game they go to. Why is wanting to attend away matches against against our biggest rivals so taboo

 

[muttley]

You'll need to point out where I said, "big win."

As previously said, none of these posts seem to acknowledge the different stadium layouts, the impossibility of our away support being placed elsewhere and the Piggery being a bigger stadium.

How is it " impossible " for our away support to be placed elsewhere at the piggery.? A bigger stadium should mean we should have even more choice of seating.

 

[yosser hughes]

Then we aren't getting 5% of the stadium. Segregation is the home teams problem. So away teams shouldn't lose tickets

im in full agreement with that, but we know how things generally play out when that shower are involved,for me I think this is how they will play it, 5% of seats ,but not 5% of the crowd

 

[Kinghornloyal]

im in full agreement with that, but we know how things generally play out when that shower are involved,for me I think this is how they will play it, 5% of seats ,but not 5% of the crowd

I suppose same would apply at Ibrox. If we don't get 3000 at first game then we make sure they don't get 2500

 

[Gringotts Dragon]

Why is it always the people who don’t go home and away saying the club have been spineless?

It’s the travelling fans who have told the club this is the best thing to do and they’ve listened.

Or people who admit they’ve been to Parkhead before and enjoyed their days out there calling others selfish for wanting to go.

The mental gymnastics are spectacular

 

[IbroxMainStand]

As previously stated, it will be 2,700 to accommodate segregation.

So we have agreed to giving up 300 tickets because of their poorly designed/built stadium? If it was the other way round they wouldn't agree to it so why have we.

 

[GR4Dave]

The 800 in the corner should have been enough. The same as any other support in the league.

Poor decision and affects our own supporters being there.

 

[DerekSSR]

How are folk failing to grasp that Sky have probably played a part in this, the old firm has a reputation of one of the best derbies in the world, they'll 100% want healthy away supports at these fixtures.

 

[Trafalgar]

That’s not what the statement from the SPFL says.

SPFL rules state away teams must be offered tickets, we weren't for the last game and SPFL didn't bat an eyelid. What SPFL do and say are 2 totally separate things

 

[ClockworkOrange]

I posted a picture of our likely allocation at the pigsty which you omitted from your initial reply. Are the two proposed allocations proportionate?

You stated that folk won't care about the impact and have reinforced this view again in the quoted post. I find that selfish.

I would prefer to see our stadium filled with Rangers supporters and not see people having to be moved to accommodate that lot.

We won't agree so I will leave it there.

As far as I can see, the post of yours to which I replied didn't have a picture - you were replying to another poster who had posted one.

And no, the two proposed allocations aren't proportionate. I'd have thought that would have been clear from my first post on the thread.

You're now stating that I said "folk won't care about the impact." I have said no such thing - in every one of my exchanges with you, I have talked specifically about our fans not caring about the location of our proposed allocation - the demand for those tickets will be through the roof, and people will tolerate it to attend the game.

 

[Papasmurf]

The fact that some of our own will miss out on seeing Rangers at our ground to accommodate more of that lot is a disgrace and a stain on this board.

And it’ll be the kids as before. I had two season tickets. One adult and one kids. Only the adult ticket was active against the scum and put all over the stadium. Wee guy had to stay at home.

 

[Herman]

How are folk failing to grasp that Sky have probably played a part in this, the old firm has a reputation of one of the best derbies in the world, they'll 100% want healthy away supports at these fixtures.

To sing songs that media deem offensive……make their minds up

 

[Jono]

Opinions are like arseholes etc

Dead right mate and your comment just proves it.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

They are still going to see the game mate it’s not as big a deal as being made out stadium also adding seats this summer so chances of some missing are slim.

Its for the better deep down you know that the game is all we have to market in this country and having no away fans was killing the special and unique atmosphere and experience.

If I sat there I would be annoyed but not too much as I know I’ll get relocated.

I want our fans in their stadium too it’s sorely missed nobody can deny that especially us that go to away games too

We are adding circa 600 seats overall from this Summer's proposed changes. The increased allocation will see us give up an extra 1700 seats, plus maybe a few more with increased segregation.

I'd say the chances of someone missing out - particularly if its a parent and child seated together or even a parent and two children seated together - are more than 'slim'. Its the Family Stand after all, not everyone is a 'loner' who can be easily relocated.

 

[Gringotts Dragon]

Been said many times before but follow follow surveys aren’t exactly representative of the fan base as a whole.

If the club really cared about fan opinion they’d have done a full season ticket holder survey but they haven’t, much like they just implemented the union bears relocation

What people are failing to grasp is this decision was made due to pressure from sky, sponsors and corporate season ticket holders at both clubs

 

[Trafalgar]

Where are all these seats coming from to move the st holders affected by the scum
And the season ticket holders getting moved for the disabled access

They aren't. Some STHs won't be guaranteed old firm games. All to accommodate scum fans and those Rangers fans that were greetin because they couldn't get to the Piggery. Let's see if any of them step forward to offer their home ticket to those that can't now attend due to this. I'll bet not one is willing to do so.