Good post, not enough goals from the pair of themSell Kent, Aribo and Kamara if we get good offers for them. Keep Alfie whatever the cost, even if we lose him for free next year. Keep the rest of the players and invest in a quality CB (unfortunately it looks like Goldson is off), a quality midfielder and a wide right player. 3 very good first team players is all we need to add, we have the spine of a team that made a europa league final, and we have the most promising group of youngsters I’ve ever seen come through.
I completely agree with this. A balanced approach. Freshen up and improve the squad we’ve already got, whilst promoting a couple of youth players.I’d like to keep Morelos & Kent, take money for Aribo & Kamara, make a couple of big signings, and get the likes of Lowry far more central to our plans going forward.
Spot on - this team will now be broken up and assets soldCash in and begin the rebuild. Not fair to ask the manager go again with the same faces especially when you consider there's key players with 12 months left on their deal.
Get the money and reinvest.
We should have a model where we develop players and hopefully get a massive resale between 2 and 4 years down the line but think it would be madness to try and punt them all at the same time and leave us in a weakened state.A few months ago with the title slipping away, many of here were lamenting that we didn't sell our best players last Summer when their value was at their peak. With the run in the Europa, a number of players values will be up again this Summer.
Do we cash in on this and rebuild a fresh team with hopefully a higher ceiling? That would likely involve selling our best players, bringing in promising but cheaper young players, whilst the club pockets some of the money to stabilise the clubs finances. The risk there though is with a rebuild we probably would have less chance of getting through the CL qualifiers and could be quite far behind in the league before the new players start clicking.
Or do we stick what we have got. That would probably increase our chances of getting into the CL group stage, pocketing the cash from it, whilst also increase chance of winning the league. The risk there is that if we fail to do that, the players values will likely drop substantially and the club finances would be under real strain. Unlikely to have much spare cash to improve the side from where we are.
It's probably worth noting that for all the stick the scum get about their spending, they actually brought more money into the club then they spent last summer, whilst improving their team significantly (albeit from a lower base than ours).
A few months ago with the title slipping away, many of here were lamenting that we didn't sell our best players last Summer when their value was at their peak. With the run in the Europa, a number of players values will be up again this Summer.
Do we cash in on this and rebuild a fresh team with hopefully a higher ceiling? That would likely involve selling our best players, bringing in promising but cheaper young players, whilst the club pockets some of the money to stabilise the clubs finances. The risk there though is with a rebuild we probably would have less chance of getting through the CL qualifiers and could be quite far behind in the league before the new players start clicking.
Or do we stick what we have got. That would probably increase our chances of getting into the CL group stage, pocketing the cash from it, whilst also increase chance of winning the league. The risk there is that if we fail to do that, the players values will likely drop substantially and the club finances would be under real strain. Unlikely to have much spare cash to improve the side from where we are.
It's probably worth noting that for all the stick the scum get about their spending, they actually brought more money into the club then they spent last summer, whilst improving their team significantly (albeit from a lower base than ours).
I'd say cheerio to Roofe and Helander if possible. Can't get a sustained run in the side from either. With the amount of games we play, we need Tav/Goldson/Kent type attendance reliability.I think we will still have the crux of a very good squad to build upon despite the exodus and more continuity than most expect. McGlaughlin, Tav, Souttar, Bassey (if we can somehow keep him as he will be in high demand imo), Barisic, Lundstram, Jack, Wright, Hagi, Sakala, Alfie (I personally think he will stay) assuming McGregor and Davis retire and Aribo, Goldson, Kent, Kamara, Ramsey and Diallo move on. Upgrade a few key areas with genuine quality and utilise the youths more regularly as the back ups in unison with more experienced players like Roofe etc and I think we will be fine tbh.
My fear is we're on here in 3, 4 years time saying Remember all those great euro nights under Gerrard and Gio as we go back to being euro flops every other year.This team will be broken up.
Of that there is no doubt.
And it's the right thing.
Yeh that would be good. However Morelos and Kent need to sign a new contract if not we try to sell. I also feel we will get some bids in for Bassey which would be unfortunate . I would like to see him here for the next few years as a main part of a new team.I’d like to keep Morelos & Kent, take money for Aribo & Kamara, make a couple of big signings, and get the likes of Lowry far more central to our plans going forward.
We reached a European final, only losing on penalties, and you want to get rid of 7 of the team lol.McGregor, Goldson, Barisic, Davis, Kamara, Aribo, Kent all at the end of their cycle with the club.
If any of those 3 don’t sign a new contract in the coming weeks then we have to cash in. It’s one thing losing Goldson on a free but these guys are potentially 8 figure assets.Aribo, Kent and Morelos will need to be sold as they only have 1 year left.
The rebuild begins. I love Kent but he’s not clinical enough for the style we play. We need goalscorers in his position.
We also lost the league to a team in a transition season. Their cycle is done.We reached a European final, only losing on penalties, and you want to get rid of 7 of the team lol.
How much did you drink yesterday??
Kents got 20 assists this seasonAribo, Kent and Morelos will need to be sold as they only have 1 year left.
The rebuild begins. I love Kent but he’s not clinical enough for the style we play. We need goalscorers in his position.
Out
Mcgregor
Barisic
Aribo
Goldson
Katic
Itten
Ramsey
Diallo
Hastie
Middleton
In
Souttar
New LWB
New GK
New striker
New wide right
New number 10
We'll also hopefully see a return of Helander, Morelos, Hagi
Kent for the money we paid and the wages he's on doesn't give us nearly enough on a consistent basis.
Not sure I'd be up for giving him more money TBH.
Behave, he's got us to a European final, if you asked anyone at the start of the season or especially after the first 2 games of the campaign, everyone would've laughed.To be honest I’d be considering replacing Van Bronckhorst before most of the team
His decisions last night cost us
The manager clearly doesn’t rate a fair number of the squad, yet has got a lot out of them in recent months.Cash in and begin the rebuild. Not fair to ask the manager go again with the same faces especially when you consider there's key players with 12 months left on their deal.
Get the money and reinvest.
If Jack was reliable for most games I'd probably be happy enough to cash in on Kamara and release Davis.Sell one or two of Morelos, Aribo, Kamara, Kent
release Mcgregor, Davis
Rebuild
To be honest I’d be considering replacing Van Bronckhorst before most of the team
His decisions last night cost us
To be honest I’d be considering replacing Van Bronckhorst before most of the team
His decisions last night cost us
This has been the subject of a lot of passionate and confrontational debate on a WhatsApp group in on… I don’t think Kent does enough in terms of goals and assists. He’s got bags of talent and does a power of running off the ball.. I see all of that. Like you say, we need our forward players to be weighing in with double figures in goals though.Kent has scored two goals in the league this season.
Jota and Abada have ten goals each. That’s been the difference for me. Their attacking players are chipping in with plenty of goals.
The way we play requires Kent to hit those numbers. I fucking love the boy but the fact is I don’t think he’s what we need. He simply doesn’t score enough goals and his finishing is the worst part of his game.
Fergie was great at it when he was winning everything with UnitedYou have to refresh. There is a quote that I can't fully remember from one of the top gaffers - Guardiola I think - about needing to refresh a squad (or the manager) no later than every 3 years.
I thought Kamara never really got a hold of that game last night. When you have Lundstram moving between midfield and defence then he is needed all game long though, and with Jack coming off after about an hour in any game (we did well to get the 75 minutes or so last night) then Kamara was unlikely to be taken off.They didn't.
He got a couple of decisions wrong, but they weren't game changing. Kamara was lucky to last as long as he did. Aribo was garbage other than capitalising on a mistake by the Frankfurt defender. Arguable that Ramsey shouldn't have been brought on to take a penalty, but Trapp could have saved somebody else's spot kick.
What cost us was the lack of a proper striker who knows how to play against defences. Roofe fit enough to play the whole of extra time and there's a chance we win that because by that point Frankfurt were knackered. Too many players just didnt perform well on the night.