Liewell’s propaganda machine in full swing.

EndOfDays

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#2
The "Scottish Football Supports Association" getting treated like they are a real thing. :rolleyes:

It's just a guy with a few email addresses and the media go to him for quotes because he will say what they want to hear despite knowing fine well he has zero credibility.
 

Arminius

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#15
We really are poor at this stuff.

They form diddy pseudo organisation one after the other and then their big brothers or cousins in the Record / STV / SFA treat them as impartial and the campaign is on.

This farcical “organisation” is solely in place to stop us highlighting their disgusting paedophile cover up.

It’s not about actually worrying about us or anyone actually belittling victims of abuse. It’s about trying to end a legitimate desire and right for anyone to protest about the lack of action taken against paedophiles and against those who concealed their crimes
 
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Damsidebear

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#18
Dont give them hits guys.



Sex abuse victims 'left
suicidal' after being tortured by sick football chants

Survivor groups say there is a growing problem of child abuse chants and explicit banners at Scottish football, something that can trigger a major breakdown in victims

Sick football chants are leaving childhood abuse survivors suicidal, it has been claimed.

Survivor groups have said there is a growing problem of child abuse chants and explicit
banners at Scottish football games.


Organisations say it has led to an increase in calls for help from survivors – and even claim it’s leaving some suicidal.

They have demanded the sick songs are treated in the same manner as sectarian and racist behaviour by football authorities.

It comes a week after the Celtic and Aberdeen Scottish Cup semi-final was mired in sectarian and child abuse chants from rival fans.

But it’s just one of a handful of games across Scotland that has seen an increase in the disgusting behaviour in recent months. Banners showing sex acts being performed have also appeared at other stadiums, including Fir Park and Ibrox.

Dave Sharp, of childhood abuse organisation SAFE, said he’s been inundated with calls in the past few weeks.

He said: “Recent football matches have seen a lot of these disgusting chants. There have also been banners with pictures of priests abusing young boys.
“No one is saying or doing anything about it, especially the football authorities.
“This has a major effect on victims and survivors. They go to football matches too.
“I was called by a survivor who was badly triggered when he saw a banner with a priest abusing a boy. He told me it hit him like a sledge hammer. It had left him contemplating suicide.

Dave Sharp says banners have major effect on victims, who go to football matches too (Image: Daily Record)
“This happens with survivors – something you might think is quite minor can cause a major breakdown.
“It is now the norm for supporters in football stadiums to blast out child abuse songs when they play Celtic.
“I’d like to see football authorities treating the problem like racism and bigotry – it’s a cancer that needs
to be cut out.”
Last weekend’s Scottish Cup game saw sectarian abuse aimed at Aberdeen boss Derek McInnes.

Celtic FC said the sex abuse chants aimed at them – which centred on historic abuse that took place at Celtic Boys’ Club – had “no place in football”.

Paul Goodwin says abuse chants should be treated the same way as racism and homophobia (Image: SNS Group)READ MORE

Paul Goodwin, of the Scottish Football Supporters Association, said: “There is a line between banter and decency and this crosses the line. Abuse chants should be treated the same way as racism and homophobia as having no place in the game.”
Sharp has arranged to speak with the SFAabout the issues.
A spokesman for the SFA said fans chanting about childhood abuse was “unacceptable”.
He said the organisation had made improvements in training staff on issues surrounding childhood abuse since 2016.
He added: “This has included the adoption of consistent policies and procedures by all members as well as the training of almost 12,000 people on child wellbeing and protection by 700 club child wellbeing and protection officers.”
A spokesman for the Scottish Professional Football League declined to comment.

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GimmeShelter

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#20
I am becoming more and more certain by the week that these vermin will walk away from all of this scott free or even worse if any settlements are made Celtic will then be applauded and the spin will be that they have went above and beyond what was asked of them to help the victims.
Nothing surer mate, it's disgusting how complicit the media are in all this
 

Souness86

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#22
Paul Goodwin, of the Scottish Football Supporters Association, said: “There is a line between banter and decency and this crosses the line. Abuse chants should be treated the same way as racism and homophobia

Hmmm, where have I heard that before?

Oh aye, former Celtic manager Gordon Strachan said pretty much the same thing.
 
#29
The only way to root this out and get closure is to get to the root of it. Find out who knew what, who knew what went on and if the club had knowledge of what was going on.

Get to the root of it and serve punishment to said club if they willingly let wrongdoing or wrongdoer's continue.

Untill scottish football have a full investigation and dish out punishment where it's due, there will never ever be any closure.
 

bornabluenose

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#31
Im sure they felt even more suicidal after being subjected to heinous acts of sexual abuse but lets no go down that road. Lets not look for justice for the victims. Lets create a smokescreen and turn this all on to people who want the truth.
Every passing day is like time travel back to 1930s Germany
Bang on , the scandal behind what that club allowed to happen to those kids is the real cover up .

George Orwell wasn't kidding.
 

baselbear

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#32
Dave Sharp also said 'This wouldnt be necessery if the church and the Scottish goverment and the SFA stopped turning its back on historical child abuse. I am sorry but it has to be said. Scotland is a ticking time bomb because of the attitude of those who should be dealing with this subject. S.A.F.E. '.

He isn't a plant.
 
#33
Its quite incredible how the filth have the power to get utter made up bollox into mainstream media. It's absolutely sickening. The whole of Scotland knows these poor kids were systematically abused under the Septic name. The fact they farcically continue to dispute this truth is what disgusts people. Goes way above football rivalry and should be called out time and again. The media in this poxy country are an utter disgrace to their profession. An utter disgrace.
 

Tim Hunter

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#35
Embdy have contact details for this Goodwin chap, or the SAFE guy?
It would be nice to know if they can tell the difference between waving banners and chanting, than paedophilia, and the concealment of these offences and the protection of the offenders.
It would also be interesting to find out what action they have or intend to take against the perpetrators of these crimes.
 

buc11

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#36
Just making yourselves look even worse Peter.

It's over, any moral high ground you claim to have doesn't exist. Rangers are deed, Rangers are bigots, Rangers this Rangers that, nothing will ever compare to what your club did, ever.

Keep telling yourselves you're the good guys while abandoning the separate entity and continue to keep the image of Celtic clean why don't you.

They should be stripped of their license and made to re-apply.
 

Arminius

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#42
Dave Sharp also said 'This wouldnt be necessery if the church and the Scottish goverment and the SFA stopped turning its back on historical child abuse. I am sorry but it has to be said. Scotland is a ticking time bomb because of the attitude of those who should be dealing with this subject. S.A.F.E. '.
I can’t see that bit in the Record article.

Any reason why that might be the case ?
 
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mart22

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#47
This is risky for Celtic. Real survivors organisations will have something to say. Strachan was pilloried for equating child abuse to racism.
Scotland is putrid when it comes to child abuse. Something evil is going on here. Everything possible is done to silence anyone with something to say on it. Particularly if it's about the Celtic paedophiles. Are those engaged in covering up scandalous abuse cases to be protected from public shaming. Only in Scotland could such moves get this far.
I've not heard a single Celtic supporter speak out on child abuse at their club. Every single one of them is complicit in covering up abuse in my opinion. Shame on them all.
 
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Wilbour

Active Member
#48
Their PR really is awesome, you have to give them that.
To try to detrect
from any responsibility for the heinous acts of child abuse that they overseen and done nothing about and then deflect the issue by getting offended by chants by opposition fans whist their own fans sing about and support terrorist organisations is beyond parody.
I'm sure we will remind them of their sick crimes when the come to Ibrox in a few weeks.
 

Gibraltar Loyal

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#49
They aren't gonna get away with it the whole story will be told very soon and it won't be good watching for anybody related or involved with NoShame FC. They have already started an attempted cover up with their " Separate Entity " pish.
Is this your opinion or do you know of stuff in the background?
 

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