yarrumdavid01
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What I dont understand is Clement changes players to freshen things up in the squad, however, seems to constantly play the same core players. Is it maybe that these players are now burnt out?
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Dado_Prso_9
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Similar to what he did at Sheffield United isn’t it?
Karky Madoolla
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Him and Lawrence were that far back last night they should have had a goalie top on. Compare and contrast our midfield to the scum’s who have a playmaker sitting plus others pushing on scoring goals from the edge of the box and inside it. We have absolutely zilch threat from midfield. Lawrence is totally finished.
TheCanonburyCaniggia
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So this is why he has basically given up. Zero pride or wanting to win for the fans. Makes sense tbh. Average player with average mentality.
FabioSilva'sDUG
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I wouldn't accuse him of lack of effort tbh. He's lacks acceleration and mobility. He isn't very athletic. When your missing those qualities, I think it can look like he's not trying.
Gers55
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Easy money playing 5 yard passes. No wonder he wants to stay.
A quick look at this season’s attendances provides some insight. Top appearances for them is 41, for us 51. Butland and Tav are on 51 and Lundstram 48. That’s a heck of a lot of football under pressure. It reflects on our horrendous injury record and lack of good cover in some positions.
So our top appearances are 25% higher than their’s. That counts against us towards the end of the season.
So our top appearances are 25% higher than their’s. That counts against us towards the end of the season.
Mendes Loyal
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He's been brutal for the vast majority of his Rangers career and is vastly overpaid for what he brings to the team which to be honest isn't a huge amount
Can't pass, slow across the ground, can't drive out with the ball, struggles to track runners, shooting isn't particularly good- what does he actually do well?
Thought he'd maybe turned the corner in Clements first few months but is back to being the player he always has been
Can't pass, slow across the ground, can't drive out with the ball, struggles to track runners, shooting isn't particularly good- what does he actually do well?
Thought he'd maybe turned the corner in Clements first few months but is back to being the player he always has been
You can’t say that on here. The losers in this forum will continue to support the losers in our team.
I seriously hope Clement can show to me that he really does have it and drops half this team and builds one up back to be a proper Rangers team.
stonewall Jackson
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Clement was watching this at County and again last night so he must either condone the nonsense or the players are ignoring his instructions.
Either way it’s a shambolic situation.
He's probably realised that that's as good as he's going to get anywhere else, based off his recent performances. Didn't the same thing happen at Sheffield United when his contract was running down?
stonewall Jackson
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He reminds me currently of the tramp when playing for the rattlers.
No pace or tactical insight but a 95% pass completion rate. Passes over 5 to 10 yards almost all square or back.
I'd say it's worse than that.
He's actually a very poor player technically, who's physical attributes, when aligned with him actually wanting to put the effort in and showing the right mentality, get him over the line to be a good player for us.
But he seemingly can't be arsed now he's, again, as contract talks have stalled. He's been poor throughout his time here other than the Europa season when it was fresh and exciting for him and the last couple of months, playing for a contract.
It's about him, zero personal pride or playing for the jersey or fans.
TCWNS1872
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Hear, hear mate.
The amount of punters on here that want to completely exonerate Clement is incredible but entirely unsurprising.
It's like a re-run of the excuses trotted out for Mick Beale and Gio before him.
sr1983
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I'd have said that a few weeks ago but after watching the last few games I'd say he's a massive part of the problem. In his position he's the one supposed to be setting the pace of the game, he's jogging around taking far too many touches and rarely playing forward. Everything he does is so slow that the opposition easily get back in position before we get near their box
Whether folk like it or not he is a consistent, and generally a solid 7/10 every week. He is one of the players that has divided opinion of fans some just can’t stand him but don’t appreciate the good he does, all about the mistakes he makes or every bad result is on him.
Compare him with any of our players, particularly midfield and no one comes close. Look at his seasons heat map, a genuine box to box midfielder, not an Arfield going beyond, that is what Lammers, Cantwell, Lawrence, Dowell and others have tried and failed.
Reality is we set up with no shape and generally have a one man “midfield”. Other than set pieces when have you seen any of our other “midfielders” making challenges in or around our box.
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Compare him with any of our players, particularly midfield and no one comes close. Look at his seasons heat map, a genuine box to box midfielder, not an Arfield going beyond, that is what Lammers, Cantwell, Lawrence, Dowell and others have tried and failed.
Reality is we set up with no shape and generally have a one man “midfield”. Other than set pieces when have you seen any of our other “midfielders” making challenges in or around our box.
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bob1873
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You are definitely not alone mate
Skyy Bluenose
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Fixed that for you.
Orange County
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What about Hagi.
tottie beck
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His form has dropped off a cliff, which makes me think his contract negotiations have not gone well. Whatever the reason I would have Sterling in midfield ahead of him, if only for his energy. Personally I feel he is wasted at LB or even on the wing
BrooklynBlue
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What was the contract length offered and does it come with a signing-on fee? 19k over 3-4 years hardly seems "derisory".
The harsh reality is that he's unlikely to get significantly better elsewhere. I won't be surprised if he re-signs.
I think he's been asked to do too much and his form has suffered. He requires someone to assist with the hard yards alongside him and instead Clement has tried Cantwell, Lawrence + Dowell.
TCWNS1872
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I was going to post similar earlier - like a skinny Neil Lennon. Popcorn teeth might've passed the ball forward more which is a damning indictment on Lundstram.
stonewall Jackson
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He has previous for this, under GVB latterly and in Napoli when he deliberately got himself booked in order to miss the Ajax game.
He wasn’t taking painkillers then.
Trafalgar
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Forgot about him as well
Artful Dodger
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I’ve got to say when Lundstram signed I had my reservations when Sheffield Utd fans warned this would happen.
As for Butland the guy has been terrific and saved us a good few times. His form has been one of the only plus points. I can’t fault the guy. Sure he’s made mistakes but who hasn’t.
I'm. Not saying he's good enough or should stay I'm undecided tbh
What I can see is a player that had been run into the ground while others have being rotated and he looks physically done trying to be a one man midfield. Dio has helped that but dio is the one rotated.
You then have the contact situation that in the end the club should not have asked to get to this stage it generally always ends badly
To me is another another example of poor management by the club.
Thewandofpedro
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He’s been on his game for period and now seems to have regressed back.
I just hope this isn’t due to the nice security of a new deal he’s signed which hasn’t been announced
I just hope this isn’t due to the nice security of a new deal he’s signed which hasn’t been announced
Trafalgar
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I believe there's potential there
3-4 weeks ago i was 100% for Lundstram to get a new contract, i have now 100% u-turned and want him away in the summer
ThreestripeS
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He was good up till a month ago and his form has fell of a cliff.
Looks burnt out
Looks burnt out
Shawlands_Bluenose
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Have said it before the club have badly mismanaged his contract situation.
If we were serious about keeping him the deal should have been done months ago (at a time when he was playing well and everyone would have been on board with it). Now its been dragged on for months and his deal is up in six weeks time and there is a possibility he is now subconsciously playing within himself in case he picks up an injury and fucks his chances of a deal with anyone
If we were serious about keeping him the deal should have been done months ago (at a time when he was playing well and everyone would have been on board with it). Now its been dragged on for months and his deal is up in six weeks time and there is a possibility he is now subconsciously playing within himself in case he picks up an injury and fucks his chances of a deal with anyone
Trafalgar
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Based on what he showed previously. I think he needs arun in the team after his injury.
I think a good pre season under his belt and he, Sterling and Diomande could be our midfield regulars
Honestly I don’t think he’s shown anything of note apart from a couple of games since he joined. Nothing attacking wise, passing ability or in a defensive way.
Hope he comes good but can’t see it mate
HandsomeHead
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The manager clearly trusts him and up until the last 5 or 6 weeks he was repaying that trust in spades.
That being said though, Lundstram has always had his limitations. He’s taken over Steven Davis’s role as the fulcrum of our play (I’ll stop short of using the term ‘playmaker’ because unlike Davis I don’t really see him as that type of player).
Which is part of the issue. He doesn’t have the skill or range of passing to be that player. He’s played as well as he probably can for long spells this season under Clement, but the feeling remains we need better in that role.
Personally I’d be thanking him for his services at the end of the season and allowing him to move on as a free agent, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s offered an extension.
That being said though, Lundstram has always had his limitations. He’s taken over Steven Davis’s role as the fulcrum of our play (I’ll stop short of using the term ‘playmaker’ because unlike Davis I don’t really see him as that type of player).
Which is part of the issue. He doesn’t have the skill or range of passing to be that player. He’s played as well as he probably can for long spells this season under Clement, but the feeling remains we need better in that role.
Personally I’d be thanking him for his services at the end of the season and allowing him to move on as a free agent, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s offered an extension.
thethunderer
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He's being selected to do the Number 6 job, but isn't cut out for it.
He can't keep things ticking over quickly when we get the ball and doesn't break up opposition transition play when we don't.
He can't keep things ticking over quickly when we get the ball and doesn't break up opposition transition play when we don't.
Barkingmad
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Were any of them forward?
Two purple patches of good form in almost 3 season!! Absolutely pathetic considering he’d been play regularly in the EPL and obviously on a good salary with us. In the bin with the rest of them when the season comes to an end.
Ron Swanson
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I’m exactly the same.
We need to get shot of as many of them involved in this collapse as we can.
We need to take advantage of the fact a few like Lundstram are out of contract and reinvest their substantial wages wisely.
cuecard1872
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Our midfield lacks mobility and athleticism and it's a big issue. Ending a game with a midfield of Lundstram, Lawrence and Dowell is brutal.
