The red card was a red card, the penalty wasn't a penalty.Not really his fault with the stupid red card tackle
He also ignored the missiles thrown at Tav.
The red card was a red card, the penalty wasn't a penalty.Not really his fault with the stupid red card tackle
The refs have made it pretty clear they believe in this style of refereeing and integrity is not important. It is true what ref defenders/supporters say on the appointment thread it no longer makes much difference who refs that game they all know the score.Also seems small at the time. But I’m pretty sure hatate pulls Raskin shirt with about 12 mins to go. He’s on a booking. It’s a second yellow. He had booked McGregor for same thing on halfway line. I’m happy to be corrected but at the time I was sure it was hatate.
It’s these small details over the 4 matches where they always seem ti gain the advantage.
Surely over four matches something goes Rangers way??
Roofe goal. Dessers goal .
Last match there Johnston Bernardo no second yellow.
Today no second yellow. For hatate or McGregor.
That does not mean rangers haven’t done the job required. Lacked a cutting edge. Shat it Vs Ross county and Dundee.
But you can also ask that ref does the job they are paid to do.
It's a second yellow for a dive and brings it to 10 v 10 on the 55th minute.He's kicked Diomande in the leg and threw himself to the ground. Enough celtic cheerleaders will throw doubt on it, claim it was a 50/50 decision and we'll never hear of it again.
It had no bearing on the result but it's yet another big VAR decision going for celtic which is one in every old firm game since VAR was introduced.
O’Reilly wasn’t booked…It's a second yellow for a dive and brings it to 10 v 10 on the 55th minute.
It does have a bearing on the result.
Is that what you call a non penalty?The penalty was soft and McGregor should have a second yellow.
The most paranoid posters defend refs and tell us about that mob every 5 mins. I would guess, complete guess, that everyone on their side is quite happy with match officials. It is not the 90s.I genuinely hate that in the last decade or so, a portion of our fans have turned into the paranoid nut cases we used to always slate that lot for being.
Anyone thinking Collum cost us that game yesterday are beyond delusional.
Genuinely can’t recall this tbh?Has everyone completely forgotten the fact that Diomande had a decent penalty claim turned down in the 1st half?
Teams and supporters who focus their scrutiny and energy on blaming the refs tend to win f*ck all.
Been involved in football a long time albeit at a low level, but always the same, refs fault excuse creeps in after every loss, you know you are looking for excuses and ultimately going to fail. It’s like a deflection tactics from admitting your own shortcomings.
99% of the time, your good enough you win. That’s the bottom line.
And Hatate.The penalty was soft and McGregor should have a second yellow.
It was from a corner. 30 odd mins. Diomande looked like he was going to score with a header.Genuinely can’t recall this tbh?
he had a major influence especially first half where he gave them every single decision, the first decision to go in our favour was on the 96th minute.Ultimately, Collum had little influence on the outcome of the game as we were dreadful. However, the ridiculous penalty decision just underlined the fact that he'd have been there to help out if they'd needed him.
and Silva.Has everyone completely forgotten the fact that Diomande had a decent penalty claim turned down in the 1st half?
The Silva one was blatant cheating. Sick of Rangers saying nothing.he had a major influence especially first half where he gave them every single decision, the first decision to go in our favour was on the 96th minute.
Silva first half uses his strength to win the ball against their right back, he would have been able to run into the box at the touch line and who knows what wouldve happened, instead freekick to them.
McGregor should have been off yesterday as he could easily have been given two yellows with his behaviour and the way you could see him screaming at Collum and he was taking the abuse from him.he had a major influence especially first half where he gave them every single decision, the first decision to go in our favour was on the 96th minute.
Silva first half uses his strength to win the ball against their right back, he would have been able to run into the box at the touch line and who knows what wouldve happened, instead freekick to them.
What has that got to do with it? Hatate and McGregor should have had 2nd yellows.How did that win them the game? They missed it.
If Johnson Doesn't plant his leg down Lumston is winning that ballWas definitely a red card and thats why we lost, but that penalty decision was absolutely ridiculous
That's not what the thread is about.I genuinely hate that in the last decade or so, a portion of our fans have turned into the paranoid nut cases we used to always slate that lot for being.
Anyone thinking Collum cost us that game yesterday are beyond delusional.
the thing is we're not very good yet celtic still need cheating ref's to help them get through games against us and other spl team, their non sending off against the sheep for example.That's not what the thread is about.
It is totally irrelevant that we played shite.
Absolutely everybody knows we didn't deserve to win.
When will it sink in with some people that this thread is about the the referee's performance?
Is there some rule I don't know about that states you can only debate a ref's performance if we've played well and won?
Do you seriously think the ridiculous penalty should be entirely forgotten about and not discussed?
Don't be absurd.
It’s unfathomable to me that folks can’t separate how these games are officiated from how Rangers perform during the game. It’s a very simple concept yet we continually get posts talking about it not making any difference yesterday because we were poor. Or comments like the penalty was missed so it doesn’t matter. Who needs enemies.The worst case of referee cheating most of us have ever witnessed came in a 2-1 win for Rangers at Parkhead at the end of 2019. No 'excuse' needed then!
Celtic managed to win without scoring from the penalty spot yesterday but that does not mean we are wrong to highlight the penalty award as another instance in a pattern of behaviour when it comes to key decisions involving Rangers and Celtic.
Posters who go down this path of 'it all evens out, you're paranoid' must either put up or shut up. Provide a list of key decisions over the last few seasons that have seriously disadvantaged Celtic (outwith UEFA competitions, of course, where the rules are applied a tad differently as far as that club is concerned).
More Angry at Tav showing him the missles than them actually being thrown.The red card was a red card, the penalty wasn't a penalty.
He also ignored the missiles thrown at Tav.
The worst case of referee cheating most of us have ever witnessed came in a 2-1 win for Rangers at Parkhead at the end of 2019. No 'excuse' needed then!
Celtic managed to win without scoring from the penalty spot yesterday but that does not mean we are wrong to highlight the penalty award as another instance in a pattern of behaviour when it comes to key decisions involving Rangers and Celtic.
Posters who go down this path of 'it all evens out, you're paranoid' must either put up or shut up. Provide a list of key decisions over the last few seasons that have seriously disadvantaged Celtic (outwith UEFA competitions, of course, where the rules are applied a tad differently as far as that club is concerned).
You saw what happened when Beaton suddenly went off-message at Tynecastle and told Robertson to review a possible Hearts penalty.So why is this happening, is someone from Celtic sitting the ref down before the game or the start of the season and briefing / incentivising him? Are the refs colluding?
I don’t think you believe that btw and think you think something more subtle is going on, but I stick by my point, your good enough, you win, the top / best teams tend to get the decisions and the luck.
That’s absolutely fine.That's not what the thread is about.
It is totally irrelevant that we played shite.
Absolutely everybody knows we didn't deserve to win.
When will it sink in with some people that this thread is about the the referee's performance?
Is there some rule I don't know about that states you can only debate a ref's performance if we've played well and won?
Do you seriously think the ridiculous penalty should be entirely forgotten about and not discussed?
Don't be absurd.
I think you’ve came in and made your comment without perusing the thread, Lex.That’s absolutely fine.
There are, however, multiple people who are blaming Collum for the result itself, which is absurd.
If people are able to agree that we were terrible, Collum was terrible and that neither one impacted the other - no issue with that.
I think you’ve came in and made your comment without perusing the thread, Lex.
It’s pretty unanimous that we didn’t deserve anything from the game.
It doesn’t mean Collum isn’t a c*nt.
Serious question, how many "could" we have had?14 years without a Rangers penalty at the piggery.
Collum will more than pleased with his endeavours ever since 2010.
Serious question, how many "could" we have had?
Not being funny, but outside the handball furore from New Year, I can't remember us even being close to having earnt one, let alone be given one
Okay, so what you're saying, is that for us to have gotten a penalty in the East End in the last 14 years, it would have needed to be a refereeing mistake?Well, when you see the blatant ones we've had denied down the decades, what makes you think we would never had had one, even by a ref error. ?
Okay, so what you're saying, is that for us to have gotten a penalty in the East End in the last 14 years, it would have needed to be a refereeing mistake?
The "not had a penalty in 14 years stat is great", but it doesn't even tell close to half the story really does it?
Diomande and Lawrence should have been booked very early but he was lenient.What has that got to do with it? Hatate and McGregor should have had 2nd yellows.
He was the ref that awarded us the last one which was at a crucial time in the game.14 years without a Rangers penalty at the piggery.
Collum will more than pleased with his endeavours ever since 2010.
Of this evidence, which of these shocking decisions occurred in the last 14 years?So what you're saying is not a debating device, mate.
You've been given clear evidence of Rangers being denied numerous shocking decisions at the piggery. If you think that still hasn't continued since then, then more fool you.
AwayDiomande and Lawrence should have been booked very early but he was lenient.
Collum wasn’t the issue yeaterday
Of this evidence, which of these shocking decisions occurred in the last 14 years?
Bad decisions happen, that much we absolutely agree on
This stat of 14 years gets banded around like we're denied a stonewall penalty every time we go there... we aren't
It just reeks of "don't want the right decision, want the right decision for Rangers"
We need to get better at football.
So going back to #236 where I say "outside the new year handball shambles, we've not been close to earning a penalty"Off the top of my head.
From just last season.?
Alfie's goal being disallowed for no reason.
Johnston punching the ball out of play.
Johnston, already on a yellow, elbowing Sima in the face directly in front of the ref, and with no yellow card.
I'm sure others will post more from down the years.
Just deny it all you like, tbh.
I certainly dont blame him for the result i thought the title was gone anyway but i do think the refs would have kept a tim on the pitch for the same tackle which was red, i also think the ref would have changed his decision on the penalty if he had given it to us which sounds a long shot.That’s absolutely fine.
There are, however, multiple people who are blaming Collum for the result itself, which is absurd.
If people are able to agree that we were terrible, Collum was terrible and that neither one impacted the other - no issue with that.
So going back to #236 where I say "outside the new year handball shambles, we've not been close to earning a penalty"
Your examples of the penalties we've been denied at Parkhead in the last 14 years.... aren't penalties?
What if Celtic had not had a penalty at Ibrox in 14 years? How would that go down?Okay, so what you're saying, is that for us to have gotten a penalty in the East End in the last 14 years, it would have needed to be a refereeing mistake?
The "not had a penalty in 14 years stat is great", but it doesn't even tell close to half the story really does it?
Are you just being deliberately obtuse? Or deliberately not reading what I've a) written, and b) replied tooYour argument has now changed to penalties and not massive decisions against us. ?
What makes you believe that we get big decisions in our favour at the piggery.?
Give us a few, like the shockers against us that I've posted.