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RobbenHood
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Utter garbage. Hearts away was terrible too
Lyon was a better away end and had much less numbers
Lyon was a better away end and had much less numbers
Further to this:
Season Ticket = 120 points
Attendance/Use of SeatSub at 19 home league games = 95 points
Average of at least 7 non-league home games (Europe, Domestic Cups) = 35 points
That's 250 points per season already for the new season ticket holder.
5 years of that = 1,250 points. That's without points for domestic away games etc.
hearts away UB did well, was down with them and glad the sash got belted out
that hagi tav roofe bassey song is utter pish might I add
I don’t agree with the add ons, but Rangers do. If a fan is prepared to buy stuff for points and another is not, then according to Rangers, one is more deserving. The one making the financial commitment that others won’t, should be rewarded. Not everyone can afford it - I couldn’t afford it. That’s why I work 3 jobs. Some make the sacrifices others won’t but we should all have the same opportunity…
The rules are set out. Everyone knows what they have to do. Either do it or don’t. But if you ain’t going to do it then don’t moan when you don’t get tickets.
15k off a full house on Friday there - the bulk of them not there I’d guess were silver and bronze - the reason why they are silver and bronze. But they want to moan that gold get all the tickets. Yet no one in gold has had more than 5 aways games this season in a ballot.
We get 50 points for being MyGers members aswell don't we ?
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RobbenHood
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I was in the upper section near the front, could hear 2/3 songs getting sung at the one time
UB done well considering numbers but in hindsight should’ve positioned themselves around row 11/12 in the upper to lead things
Hibs/Motherwell away when they stand front row of the upper tends to be the better atmospheres at away games
cblack72
Well-Known Member
At the same time that this system does benefit me and my, let’s be honest, selfish stance on away tickets. We can’t deny that the first part you’ve described is a massive issue with Mygers.
Not as many as 50, it's either 20 or 10, I couldn't remember which so I didn't include it.
Not as many as 50, it's either 20 or 10, I couldn't remember which so I didn't include it.
20 points, just found the original email
Dangermouse
Active Member
The points that are available to them are also available to the folk in the tiers above and will be picked up the same.
My point is that the tiers have moved upwards by the amount of points available for match attendance in recent updates and will continue to do so imo. There is no way on earth that the club will be happy for everyone to get to gold. the problem of of self entitlement will coming roaring back and we`ll be back to where we were in the CCS away allocation stage
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RobbenHood
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Part of the appeal of mygers was that people could pick and choose games, only applying for games they could actually attend
It then became apparent that people would just apply for everything anyway (as every single person foreseen being the case). The club had this dream that people would be honest and only take tickets they intended to use
So one of the benefits of mygers was nul and voided - further exacerbated by it being a ballot people opt in to. So people can still get tickets for games “randomly” without knowing if they’ll be able to attend, though this then affects them for future games
I’ve previously spoke about Parkhead (I don’t want to go into depth again about it as it’s been discussed to death). I’ve been fortune that I’ve been able to follow Rangers there numerous times, with 8000 and 800; some even went when we had 15000+ however future generations will never get to experience that due to allocation cut. But that allocation cut impacts every other game too because there’s around 14000 less tickets a season we used to get, all whilst demand has went up
cblack72
Well-Known Member
The less I say on the Parkhead situation, the better. I’ll end up with a permanent ban.
But yeah, the general opinion is that Mygers needs to be revamped already. And it’s not that much of a surprise. Trusting the ticket office to get this right is impossible.
No, it's a rolling 5 year period so for those existing ST holders their points from 5 years ago will drop off at the end of each season. Whereas the new ST holder will not have any points that drop off each season so they will naturally catch up with the pack. That's my point.
The reality is that only a few will end up with more away games than under the old CCCS. The majority will end up with less. But we are all having to now pay for it. Rangers will argue it’s not an away scheme - but it is. If you took away semi and finals and away tickets, Euro aways, and charged £40, no one would join.
The focus group was a bunch of nodding heads that agreed with everything that Rangers had already decided. Just there for the free buffet.
Dangermouse
Active Member
If everyone currently on this scheme earns the same points over a five year period then they will more or less be the same. No chance that will happen.
My point is the same issue of ' I missed a cup final ticket and I`ve been a season ticket holder for 100 years. That`s ridiculous!!' will be back with us. and this will be back to square one.
There isn`t a big enough change in season ticket holders for this not to happen
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RobbenHood
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X factor type auditions to see how can sing the loudest, aggressive flag waving gets extra points as does bouncing
Yeah it'll be interesting to see how it works in practice. Especially if they switch to a 3 year rolling period which will mean even more people are congested together on similar points totals.
How many points deducted for attempting to sit down?
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RobbenHood
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Hopefully 0, I enjoy a wee seat at times even if my views obstructed
The main differential will be Euro Aways, depending on our European run and how many qualifiers we play they could be over 100 points a season available on them.
Dangermouse
Active Member
I don`t think that we will ever get to the stage where there is congestion.
I also think that this should be a scheme where only match attendance counts.
Dangermouse
Active Member
But it`s pretty much only gold members that will be able to get them. So the divide will always be there.
It depends on who we draw and when. This season hasn't been a good barometer as the only 'proper' Euro trip was Brondby which had a relatively small allocation
Dangermouse
Active Member
Obviously. But there will not very likely be many games that someone who isn`t gold will get.
Imo MyGers should be only for domestic games and it should be a straight ballot for all members with the exception of certain games (cat A etc)
I think the gamechanger would be the club re-implementing collection in the host city for Euro aways (with proper ID checks at the collection point). It would be interesting to see how many Gold members didn't apply for Brondby because I'd guess it won't be many. With the tickets being posted out, the logical thing to do was apply for the tickets whether you intended to travel or not.
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RobbenHood
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I’m convinced that’s what it’ll move back to, only we’ll all be paying £40 for it where as away CCCS was free
There’s an argument as to whether away CCCS should’ve been free considering TC was £20 but to be charged £40 for something we got for £0 will be a sore one
Maybe it was a ploy by the club to do a soft introduction for a paid sway scheme
Is this not the same thing ?
There is no difference between it happening for domestic games and Euro games, other than the difference in MyGers points.
Even the first game of season 50% of season tickets not getting in yet there was folk on here openly admitting they got one from a mate.
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RobbenHood
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Of course, I’ve always believed European tickets should be collected in the host city
What loyalty did the TC reward though, sorry or benefit the Club ?
There are a high number of folk go to the Euro away games and rarely set foot in Ibrox, some don’t reside in the UK never mind Scotland.
TC was good, it worked easily
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RobbenHood
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Direct income; Membership fees each season made the club £, they made £ on official day trips
Indirect income; use pictures of the fans in marketing
It worked easily but became a closed shop.
TC for some is the equivalent of Silver and Bronze MyGers but half the price, some paid £20 per season to get nothing.
What £ made on official day trips is not made now ? Same with indirect income ? I don’t follow ?
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RobbenHood
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They don’t make the £20 for membership as ex-TC essentially get it for free considering it’s included in mygers
Also, it was far from a closed shop. I went from 0 points to being on double figures over 2 seasons because I took all my holidays from work around euro games. I made sacrifices to follow the team, to ensure I was guaranteed tickets for more glamorous games
Has there ever been a 'normal' euro season where someone would have got 0 tickets ? Even if you started on 0 and got a KB from the first few games surely by getting points for those games it would have put you in a good position for later games that season ?
it didnt really now did it
You could afford to be selective at the start with the TC if you didn’t go to games to get at least a base of a couple of points, you might have missed out on some smaller allocations but when the time came to the bigger games if you had 5/6 points you were guaranteed a ticket.
Going back to 2008 I think you needed 8 for Florence which still stands as a record but obviously was an anomaly of a season with so many aways played plus we had a decent number in 06/07 as well.
That was until they stopped pick up away and then things started to go downhill. Previously yes you could play the system a bit with fake itineraries and lookalike pick ups but there wasn’t the widespread abuse that you see with tickets posted.
Long post really for me to say the TC worked well and shouldn’t have been messed with.
Going back to 2008 I think you needed 8 for Florence which still stands as a record but obviously was an anomaly of a season with so many aways played plus we had a decent number in 06/07 as well.
That was until they stopped pick up away and then things started to go downhill. Previously yes you could play the system a bit with fake itineraries and lookalike pick ups but there wasn’t the widespread abuse that you see with tickets posted.
Long post really for me to say the TC worked well and shouldn’t have been messed with.
Plenty qualifiers to go to and build points up
Problem is the moaners just want to to to the glamour group games and then moan like %^*& about a closed shop
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Withambear
Well-Known Member
Still feel the club missed a trick by not awarding extra points to those that go in the official trip rather than independent as official trips give the club more money
P.S I am only joking before anyone gets upset
P.S I am only joking before anyone gets upset
das
Well-Known Member
The travel club was as far from a closed shop as you could get. Anyone could join and be maximum points after 3 seasons just by going to all the games. Even if they weren't awarded a ticket for the first couple of games they got the points for applying.
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RobbenHood
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That would be an incredible thread hahaha
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RobbenHood
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Always feel the people that say closed shop either weren’t in it or didn’t properly understand how it worked.
It might’ve had that feel since those on top points tended to go everywhere and had done for years but one look at the make up of our euro support shows there’s a load of younger fans that went
TheButterflyCollector
Member
Agree with everything you’ve said there.
It was just the questioning of Bronze members having the opportunity for Aberdeen tickets as opposed to them not having the opportunity at Hearts tickets that I didn’t agree with, as the club have previously said Celtic was the only exception to this.
As you’ve said, if they come out at the beginning of the season and say ‘any allocation below X will be balloted to Gold members only’ I don’t think anybody can complain and they then have a clear strategy which people can either sign up to or not.
Stop it. This level of sensibility might catch on.
but why would they want to go to zeta, osijek or ufa when they can go to Feyenoord , porto and lyon instead
alot of seem to have that mindset
