falkirkbear
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Already used by them, Broadwood isn't used by a senior team now, the womens team play there, its five minutes from the motorway and a 15 minute walk from Croy station.Or Airdrie
Already used by them, Broadwood isn't used by a senior team now, the womens team play there, its five minutes from the motorway and a 15 minute walk from Croy station.Or Airdrie
It's playing adult mens football whilst not having to leave our elite coaches and facilities. Loans result in a drop in coaching standards. They also play WITH players of lower quality, even when loaned to championship sides.They’re playing against glorified amateurs in the lowland league. I don’t see how playing in lower leagues readies any player to play for our first team
Look at Josh mcpake, doing relatively well in Championship and was highly touted for us but he’s absolutely no where near being good enough. Playing against amateurs would’ve done 0 for his development
To be honest, I'd rather see ambitious teams like Darvel and the other big junior teams getting their chance than some of the dross that makes up the lower league. Slamming the door on them iseliminating the opportunity for new teams with bigger fanbases to improve the Scottish game.
With 3 leagues of 16, is that a 30 game season, or would you still incorporate some kind of split?
I’m not strictly saying you are wrong, but one of the factors for smaller clubs is the matchday income and I don’t see them looking to significantly reduce that.
Already used by them, Broadwood isn't used by a senior team now, the womens team play there, its five minutes from the motorway and a 15 minute walk from Croy station.
I hate nursery teams being allowed to play in theI know it'll never happen but our B teams would be so much better if they were playing at a higher level. For instance when Barca and Real Madrid B's used to play in the second tier of Spanish football.
The Spanish big teams have B teams in their tier system, has not affected their league structure.Don’t disagree but the big clubs in Scotland, including us, shouldn’t be allowed to enter B teams into the proper league system as it’ll just clog it up
Imagine rangers or Celtic B winning the championship regularly and blocking teams promotion. It would make a mockery of Scottish football
They need to move the B team fixtures to Broadwood too, bigger stadium in a pretty central and easily accessible location.
The pyramid structure in theory is great ,but there still isn't enough promotion/ relegation from division 2.
Open Goal Broomhill use it.
Make it mandatory for every team in the top league and championship to have a reserve team and fulfil all fixtures otherwise your first team is not allowed to play . It really is that simple .You know that many SPL sides don't have a youth team right? There wouldn't be enough for a league and it wouldn't be remotely competitive enough.
Playing in League 2 to Championship would be very good for the Old Firm and could eventually for the national team. Whether it would be good for the rest of the clubs down there, I doubt it. Slightly torn, but overall the greater good should be prioritised.
Scottish football people are mental. All I've heard in 40yrs is about them wanting major change to our game. Yet when they get the opportunity, they act all offended if anything is put forward for the good of the game.They shouldn't be creating a League Three to do this. It should be part of a national restructuring of the entire pyramid with larger leagues and less tiers at SPFL level. B-Teams should be entered at an appropriate level.
Therein lies the problem.Scottish football people are mental. All I've heard in 40yrs is about them wanting major change to our game. Yet when they get the opportunity, they act all offended if anything is put forward for the good of the game.
The idea that B teams are the reason that the Dutch and Spanish do so well ignores the very limited impact that B team football has in Germany. German B sides typically play in regional leagues. A couple of them will sometimes have a run in 3.Liga. You're more likely to see German sides loaning their better youngsters out to teams in 3.Liga or Bundesliga 2 than to rely on their B teams playing in the German regional leagues.
If we don't improve everything that happens before kids hit 18/19 years of age then playing them against low level professionals won't make a bit of difference. We still won't produce good players. We also need to abandon this notion that teams can't play 20/21 year olds because of the risk involved. If a 20 year old can't be relied on to be part of Rangers' squad and to come on as a sub, or to start some games against weaker opposition, then they're never going to be good enough. Neither Rangers nor Celtic have developed good enough youngsters beyond that critical mid teens age where we lost Gilmour to Chelsea and the striker who went to Villa. Patterson was a massive exception - you need to go back to Alan Hutton to see the player before him who was developed by the club, played for Rangers first team as a young player and who then moved on for strong money.
There are very good reasons why we should change the league set-up in Scotland. My own preference would be 3 leagues of 16 teams, a proper winter break, fewer midweek games and a change to the cup competitions. But changing to accommodate B teams isnt going to magically fix our game.
What do they add to the game? A few leagues worth of teams with a few hundred fans? How are they going to help Scotland improve on the international scene and Scottish clubs improve in Europe.Do whats best for the professional game?
Part time clubs are professional. Believe it or not, Scottish football exists as more than a play thing for Rangers and Celtic.
Not really, they still have massive revenueThat could be said for every single club, no matter their league. What would happen to the EPL if the owners just said "we've had enough, ditch it"
The Junior Clubs have tabled proposals but trust me that is going nowhere. The League 2 Clubs don't want wider access to the league or proper restructuring. Clubs in Glasgow are massively hindered by the Council and the sell off of facilities.Darvel and 3 or 4 other Junior clubs were told last season that they would be invited into this new league as well so I don't know why Kennedy is moaning.
More league clubs would mean all sponsorship money would be divided between more clubs so someone us going to take the hit for that.
in a league league that actually matters aswell, playing for win bonuses etc.They’ve been playing each other since they’ve been 10. Playing against older tougher opponents gives them a different challenge imo.
Loan moves don't really help us as a club when we use them who was the last young player to go on loan then become a first team regular? Ross McCrorie maybe? Majority of loans we do now is because there's nothing for our players after the 18s league there's nothing to bridge the gap between that and right into men's football.
If you take Ajax for example and the squad they had against us 12 Dutch players in it 7 of them all played at least 2 years in the Dutch 2nd division at a young age whether that be with Ajax, PSV or Alkmaar. Not saying we will ever replicate what Ajax or the Dutch do in general but we need to find a way to develop our own talent that's maybe not just ready for first team football.
What do they add to the game? A few leagues worth of teams with a few hundred fans? How are they going to help Scotland improve on the international scene and Scottish clubs improve in Europe.
I never mentioned anything about it being a play thing for Rangers and Celtic.
I'd disagree with both clubs you've mentioned. Alloa's been one of the more ambitious part time sides in the last decade. 2 league Cup quarter finals, 5yrs in Championship, beat us, Dundee Utd Hearts, Hibs etc.It needs a total restructure all at once. Plenty of ambition out there and opportunity for well run clubs. Its the Cowdenbeaths and Alloas of this world that don't want change.
They can only maintain that by SFA earnings and keeping the shop closed to bigger clubs below them. It those running these clubs that don't won't wider football growth, short sighted petty and will be the death of their clubs.I'd disagree with both clubs you've mentioned. Alloa's been one of the more ambitious part time sides in the last decade. 2 league Cup quarter finals, 5yrs in Championship, beat us, Dundee Utd Hearts, Hibs etc.
Also Cowdenbeath were punching well above weight level for a few years in the championship. Unfortunately that's went all to shit now.
He’s moaning as he loves the sound of his own voice, the prick.Darvel and 3 or 4 other Junior clubs were told last season that they would be invited into this new league as well so I don't know why Kennedy is moaning.
More league clubs would mean all sponsorship money would be divided between more clubs so someone us going to take the hit for that.
What do they add to the game? A few leagues worth of teams with a few hundred fans? How are they going to help Scotland improve on the international scene and Scottish clubs improve in Europe.
I never mentioned anything about it being a play thing for Rangers and Celtic.