barcelonabear
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All the players mentioned were elite in their own era! But I was watching clips of 90s serie A the other day and I couldn’t believe how much the standard has even improved since then.
Remind me how many World Cup Winners medals Messi has?Not rubbish but Messi is far superior.
Yep it was a draw.I thought they drew 4-4?
Remind me how many World Cup Winners medals Messi has?
3 and your point is? maradona is widely regarded as being the better of the two and he has 1 WC.Remind me how many World Cup Winners medals Messi has?
I have no dog in this fight, but Brazil's domestic game was much much much stronger when Pele played.Remind us how many European Cups Pele has? Oh that's right, he never played in Europe.
If you had seen him play then there would be no suspicion about his goal tally.Before my time but I've always found Pele's goal tally a bit suspicious.
He did what he did at a time when players could kick the living shoite out of each other.Too many people before my time rated Pele so highly that he must have been great. I never saw it in any film till I saw footage on YouTube which I hadn't seen previously, and he looked an incredible player. Most of what we probably do see is highlights of goals, but I detect what made him great went well beyond that.
Marilyn MonroeCan’t be arsed with these arguments. It’s like arguing about who’s the better ride in their prime Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Johansson, Margot Robbie.
Showing yer age there fella but i wouldn’t argue with you, which is my point.Marilyn Monroe
To be fair the Brazilian league was probably the strongest in the world during Pele’s career given its best players came together to win the World Cup 3 times out of 4 in that period. And it’s not as if Pele had any trouble translating his domestic form to games against European opposition as he regularly hammered them with Santos and the national team. In fact his record against the top European club sides is remarkable, scoring 47 in just 39 games. That’s why he only competed in 3 Copa Libertadores, because after he won 2, Santos decided they could make more money touring Europe.Pele played in the Brazilian keague majority of his career and won the South American equivalent of the champions league twice in 14 years.
It is simply untrue to say Maradonna is widely regarded as the superior of the two. Of course many prefer him, but it is arguable even to this day who is regarded the best. Having seen both play, my preference between them is Pele. I would also add that in recent times Messi overtakes both. In my humble of course.3 and your point is? maradona is widely regarded as being the better of the two and he has 1 WC.
Pele played in the Brazilian keague majority of his career and won the South American equivalent of the champions league twice in 14 years.
In the 2014 final higuan missed a host of chances to win the trophy for the argies. So bad were they he wanted to retire after that game. Puts one of those chances away no one would be taking about messi never winning a WC. A WC where messi dragged them to the final it should be said.Remind me how many World Cup Winners medals Messi has?
If you had seen him play then there would be no suspicion about his goal tally.
He is still by far, for those who have seen them all play including Messi and Ronaldo, the GOAT.
How many of Pele’s contemporaries played in Europe, that right none! It wasn’t an option in his timeRemind us how many European Cups Pele has? Oh that's right, he never played in Europe.
that would still leave him two behind!In the 2014 final higuan missed a host of chances to win the trophy for the argies. So bad were they he wanted to retire after that game. Puts one of those chances away no one would be taking about messi never winning a WC. A WC where messi dragged them to the final it should be said.