The point I am making is that their system seems to get it right Without drawing lines on screens. Two guys with some replays and it’s sorted reasonably quickly. VAR has only been about for a few years with many issues. These chaps have been doing this for much longer. We should have copied this years ago.
A long time. Every decision explained.
It’s a different game when you start to play rugby at a young age your taught to respect the ref and his decision is final. Also if you disagree with the ref on a penalty decision he will give another 10m for the back chat so players tend not to argue with the officials
I don’t think they have all played at a high level. But the culture of the game is worlds apart in terms of respect for officials. Very little play acting and trying to cheat refs. And don’t start me on the diving...
So why can’t we change the culture With the very same penalties? If we just accept the pish that happens it will always stay the same.
I am sure they don’t always first time but TMO sorts it out almost every time.
They brought that in about 10 years ago but it seemed to disappear
It would stop if there was a will to stop it! I just can’t get my head around it!Also, in rugby union or rugby league, if you interfere with the ball or prevent the other team from playing on after the referee has blown for an infringement you are immediately penalised.
In football, interrupting play is normal now. Why is it so bad? Is it the referees being weak?
It’s a pain in the arse and wish it would stop.
Our administration have the ability to do this....oh wait....our administration is farcical....
For me the biggest thing is to punish the cheats. The diving and simulation is getting to critical levels of comedy. Pathetic dives which refs are buying. It’s criminal and will drive folk away or off.
As already stated they experimented this in England over ten years ago then binned it. One reason was players sometimes gave the backchat deliberately to try and nullify the free kick specialists
I recall Man Utd getting a penalty for some shirt tugging at a corner in about the 93rd minute at Stamford Bridge a number of years ago. MOTD had a spirited debate between Alan Hansen and Alan Shearer. I seem to recall Hansen saying the referee’s decision was correct. Shearer said give penalties for that and you’ll have ten penalties every game. Hansen retorted ‘only for a very few games then players and managers would get the message’. I contend that Hansen was and remains correct. I am yet to find in the Laws of the Game where grappling an opponent is allowed. Let’s have in football application of the Laws of the Game as rugby applies the laws of their game I say.
Alfredo would have us defending a free kick on the six yard line.
Football is unique tho.
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Difference is the TMO will flag up any key issues for the ref to look at the officials work together and don’t leave it all to the ref.
No they don’t, in fact this years 6N has been riddled with inconsistencies and awful decisions.
I do not agree.
Agree. Clear explanation of every decision keeping both teams informed and very much in charge. Even if you disagree with the final decision they reached, his communication was excellent.
Quite simple to solve. In some instances in Rugby League the ref stops play, puts the player on report and its looked at after the game and bans given out accordingly. A professional version of our compliance officer and not decided by media but the officials.
Not sure about the level that referees have played at but only the captain can talk to the referee in rugby and you can also be penalised for backchat.
It needs to be recognised by referees that they are in fact responsible for creation of the diving and simulation culture we now have. Rudd Gullitt told,the story , I think it was during one of the big competitions when he was working for the BBC. He recounted that after he, van Basten and Rijkjard went to AC Milan just before half time van Basten (I think ) was fouled in the penalty box but the referee didn’t award the penalty. Going off at half time the A C Milan captain Franco Baresi quizzed the referee why he didn’t award a penalty for the obvious foul on van Basten. The referee replied that he didn’t go down so it couldn’t have been enough to deserve a penalty. At half time in the AC Milan dressing room the seed was planted, get contact in the box and you go down. Gullitt maintained that was the point where simulation became part of the European game as players had to convinve referees they had been fouled. Another infamous occurrence was Michael Owen in the 2001 (?) UEFA final which Liverpool eventually won with Gary Mac in the team. Owen was clearly pulled in the box impeding his progress but didn’t go down so referee waved play on. A clearer penalty you will never see and the lack of an award simply said to all that a 0layer needs to go down to get a penalty.
That was tried in football on a trial but was dropped after about half a season on the basis penalties were being given for back chat.
Shelved alongside the "6-second rule" for the goalies.
Would love to see this in football, players would think twice about screaming on the referees face at every decision, Rugby players don't because of it
Rugby is more of a stop start game compared to football but I see what you meanAlso, in rugby union or rugby league, if you interfere with the ball or prevent the other team from playing on after the referee has blown for an infringement you are immediately penalised.
In football, interrupting play is normal now. Why is it so bad? Is it the referees being weak?
It’s a pain in the arse and wish it would stop.
Rugby league is not a stop/start game.
