Scottish Fitba

Albertz89

Albertz89

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Do any other bears genuinely enjoy Scottish football and its sort of 'uniqueness'?

Yes the quality can be piss poor at times, but it is an incredibly fast and physical league which in turn makes it difficult for many players (especially overseas) to adapt.

Many may disagree but I enjoy the hatred we attract, all due to fact we are so successful and the rest cannot stand it. I'm disregarding the obvious issues with refereeing and authorities as that's another topic, this is purely an opinion on the game here. The passion, intensity and scrutiny our game has makes it what it is imo.
 
I prefer it to the tourist league across the border. It remains proper football up here with guys attached to their club through having a feeling for them as opposed to monetary reasons.
 
cooprfc said:
I prefer it to the tourist league across the border. It remains proper football up here with guys attached to their club through having a feeling for them as opposed to monetary reasons.
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I had the EPL in mind when I posted this, don't get me wrong I'll watch the games as I'm a football fan but just seems a little 'mainstream' if that makes sense? Tourist league is accurate
 
Love it , far more raw than that commercialised money fuelled leauge down south. A lot of supporters down South go to games so they can say they have been to Old Trafford, Anfield etc which means not true supporters are going. Whereas up here nobody goes to the Tony Macaroni as something they can tick of their bucket list they go because they care about the team that’s playing. Far more passion in the stands in Scotland
 
Raking studs down Morelos and waiting for the reaction is Scottish fitba' today.

Sportscene full of mentally challenged highlights on why Rangers should not have had a penalty with comments like 'biomechanics' from learned pundits.

Sportscene (fuk I've mentioned them twice) contacting the compliance officer after 12 o clock Mass to bring attention to broony being 'assaulted' again without mention of the fact he's a mongo with tainted medals.

Just about sums it up really.

Oh... then we have Lennon in the hot seat at the Chamber of Secrets. Couldn't make it up!
 
I know what you men OP - when I try to compare it- there's nothing out there that I can see even slightly similar

It is what it is & I can't see it changing much any time soon

But it's what you get used to & other versions can end up looking a bit sanitised

It doesn't stop me dreaming of a much improved option of more skill, less hammerthrowing & packed defences though.
 
gersandproud said:
I know what you men OP - when I try to compare it- there's nothing out there that I can see even slightly similar

It is what it is & I can't see it changing much any time soon

But it's what you get used to & other versions can end up looking a bit sanitised

It doesn't stop me dreaming of a much improved option of more skill, less hammerthrowing & packed defences though.
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Very much agreed, it is far from the best but it's blood and thunder all the way and it's where we call home. Watch them froth at the mouth when we rule again... next season that trophy comes home
 
Ynyrliddell1872 said:
Love it , far more raw than that commercialised money fuelled leauge down south. A lot of supporters down South go to games so they can say they have been to Old Trafford, Anfield etc which means not true supporters are going. Whereas up here nobody goes to the Tony Macaroni as something they can tick of their bucket list they go because they care about the team that’s playing. Far more passion in the stands in Scotland
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Something else they've got far more of is empty seats and substandard grounds.
 
Albertz89 said:
Do any other bears genuinely enjoy Scottish football and its sort of 'uniqueness'?

Yes the quality can be piss poor at times, but it is an incredibly fast and physical league which in turn makes it difficult for many players (especially overseas) to adapt.
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Yet we're now ranked 26th in Europe and we're about to embark on 4 rounds of qualifiers to get to the group stages of Europe's second competition.

It's all a little bit misty-eyed and 'who's like us'. It's easier than facing reality on where the game is.
 
BrooklynBlue said:
Yet we're now ranked 26th in Europe and we're about to embark on 4 rounds of qualifiers to get to the group stages of Europe's second competition.

It's all a little bit misty-eyed and 'who's like us'. It's easier than facing reality on where the game is.
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Well aware of the shortcomings of football in this country mate, was more referring to the 'charm' that it may have for some people, myself included. Granted many people loathe it, got no problem with that
 
I will not even watch the CL Final if I don't have a bet. Football is the only sport where participants are lauded for cheating. When I started following the game it was played by men not Neymars. I love Rangers and want success like everyone else but Rangers apart it is a boring sport
 
Albertz89 said:
Well aware of the shortcomings of football in this country mate, was more referring to the 'charm' that it may have for some people, myself included. Granted many people loathe it, got no problem with that
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I don't loathe it. When I'm back and we're not playing, I'll likely be at a game with my brother. I think, however, there's a tendency to talk of this 'uniqueness' to ignore the shortcomings.

The game is on a downward trajectory, not helped by the media, manufactured weekly controversies and inept authorities.

I think the game could be so much t better. The basics are in place.
 
Scottish football is awful. The standard outwith us and them is comparable with League of Wales. We have a governing body who are only interested in serving one club. They don't want to hear any new ideas and anyone who is worth listening to is shouted down by pundits such as Shoo Keevins and Tom English. Then you have the scenario that Malky Mackay is appointed as the Technical Director. What the f**k qualifies an ex Celtc sub to be in charge of improving our game?

The game in this country will neverf improve until we have a massice clearout of the SFA and the SPFL. These organisations need to merge and we need passionate football men in charge who are not afraid to take risks. For anyone who follows the Celtc/SFA XI, get used to not qualifying for major tournaments as it aint happening anytime soon
 
I watch Rangers games and nothing else. If Rangers were not in Scottish football I wouldn't even consider watching it. It is incredibly corrupt and backward. Until referees start applying the same rules as the rest of the world in a fair and honest manner it will continue to regress. The treatment of Morelos by press, authorities and "fellow pros" is shameful. The treatment of Pedro by the press has no place in a civilised country. In general the treatment of foreigners, particularly if they play for Rsngrrs shines a light on attitudes that should have died out decades ago.
 
basiltherat said:
I watch Rangers games and nothing else. If Rangers were not in Scottish football I wouldn't even consider watching it. It is incredibly corrupt and backward. Until referees start applying the same rules as the rest of the world in a fair and honest manner it will continue to regress. The treatment of Morelos by press, authorities and "fellow pros" is shameful. The treatment of Pedro by the press has no place in a civilised country. In general the treatment of foreigners, particularly if they play for Rsngrrs shines a light on attitudes that should have died out decades ago.
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Good point that I missed. We used to look at some of the Eastern European countries and the Italians and think they were corrupt to the core. Scotland in 2019 has now become toxic. Corrupt, weak, morally empty people in charge both in football and politics. If I was a sponsor I would be wanting nothing to do with this shit show
 
Mr_Miscellaneous said:
Our league is unique.

If you can't make it here, you can't make it anywhere worth a damn.

I'd like us to go to 14 teams.
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We need to go with a top league of 16 or 18. The smaller teams have to find a way to merge as we have far too many clubs for a country this size. These wee diddy teams teaming up will be better for them financially in the long run. Have two bottom leagues of whatever is left. Two up via promotion and a third place up for grabs in a play off with third bottom of the league above
 
Cambuslang Bear said:
We need to go with a top league of 16 or 18. The smaller teams have to find a way to merge as we have far too many clubs for a country this size. These wee diddy teams teaming up will be better for them financially in the long run. Have two bottom leagues of whatever is left. Two up via promotion and a third place up for grabs in a play off with third bottom of the league above
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14/14/16 (or 18 or 20) (with colts)
 
Different teams and different players are officiated in accordance with different rules. Most games are played in half empty stadiums. Most of the half empty stadiums are shite. The standard of football is appalling. Some of the games are played on plastic pitches.

In conclusion, Scottish football is absolutely dreadful and I have no real interest in it beyond us. It’s just a terrible product and even the commentary and punditry teams that are selected to ‘sell’ it are utterly woeful.
 
I struggle to watch a 90min game if Rangers are not involved. As a kid I’d watch any game from around the world but now the actual game bores the shit out of me. What I enjoy now are the pre and post match podcasts, transfer rumours, FF forum, reading articles etc. I agree though, Scottish football is unique and people from the outside looking in must shake their heads at times with the way we do things. The larger European leagues may have the money and the glamour but they don’t have our passion and numbers-only a select few
 
It's on a downward spiral quality wise,The fhilth have just won a treble treble and to be honest that team would have struggled in the past not just against us the standard of the other teams has dropped significantly,
 
Dreadful overall standard. Emphasis on physicality over skill. Doesn't help that majority of fans in Scotland just want to get the ball up the park with no patience. Scottish football, in general, is in the dark ages. Might be the reason attendances are poor and tv package brings in such a low amount of money. Not to mention the (general) poor results in Europe and by national team.
 
No I can't stand it. The only reason I go to watch it is because I'm a Rangers supporter.

It is amateurish. It is third rate. It is brutal.

It is run by incompetent people, who have stood aside for decades, and watched and knew about massive sex abuse at Celtic.

The national team is a joke. Their supporters, in many cases, a bigger joke.

The reporting of the game is a farce. Aberdeen's eight booking, twenty-three foul victory, at Ibrox described in a newspaper as a "clinical performance."

I'm desperate for a day when we are no longer playing "Scottish Fitba". Get us into a European league with half decent clubs, and away from the parochial crap of Scotland.
 
I watch it now and again and will go out my way to watch a match if we have tied down a player or are linked - just to see what they are like.

I watched the likes of Dundee United in the play offs as I wanted to see them beaten.

The standard is poor but just look at yesterdays £170m match down in England and numerous others through out the season.
 
CaptainCourageous said:
I watch it now and again and will go out my way to watch a match if we have tied down a player or are linked - just to see what they are like.

I watched the likes of Dundee United in the play offs as I wanted to see them beaten.

The standard is poor but just look at yesterdays £170m match down in England and numerous others through out the season.
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Good point about the EPL play off, was decent to watch simply because what was at stake but the quality? Million miles away from a top Scottish game? I think not.
 
Scottish football is rubbish, absolute tosh and I include us in that general overview. It is horrible to watch, if it was not for being brought up the way I was, I wouldn't open my curtains to watch any football match in Scotland. Suffice to say the only games I watch are us.

Look at any other league in Europe, pace is slower, very few 'tackles', more tactics, off the ball running, you even have goalkeepers getting involved in build up play and being able to pass a ball 60 mtrs to a players foot...............not in Scotland, hump up the park to be headed back as far as possible followed by career ending tackles and build up play that consists of three passes and a long ball.

Scottish football is an embarrassment to football.
 
As one who gets to watch Scottish football only on TV or, perhaps, half a dozen times a season in the flesh, I feel that as others have said the passion is the big plus.
The big minus is the predictability of who will be champions next season. For Scottish football good I look forward to the day when Hearts or Aberdeen putting in a meaningful & sustained challenge to be crowned the best in the land
Interest south of the border is maintained by the calculating, between matches, of the promotion or relegation chances of teams depending on results. To be crowned champions as I have said there are only two teams in it.
Solutions. An old hobby horse but, re-introduce the old League Cup format at the opening of the season. This brings match fitness to the large clubs and puts money into the coffers of the smaller ones.
Cull the SPFL to a size that reflects the countrys population.
Change the qualifying date for schools football to, say 1st of January. If someone is born in the summer months he has about 1/2 the chance of being a professional footballer than someone born in the other 9 months.
Minimum standards viz. spectator facilities, pitch quality, transport for any club that seeks to rise to the top.
SFA coaches to be attached to every primary school in the country.

I could go on and on but I will take my pills now and go back to bed
 
Sure some of the blood and thunder stuff can be exciting at times but the shortage of quality players in our top league is alarming. Guess that a major factor is the shortage of money as too many players who have been released from lower league teams elsewhere are recruited into the Scottish league. Another factor is the reluctance and lack of patience in developing young blokes who with decent coaching are likely to be better than some of the cast offs who add very little to the quality of the football displayed.
 
I enjoy Scottish football and everything that comes with it.

The quality might not be the best but that is due to the money (or lack of) in the game in Scotland compared to the money down south.

I'd much rather watch an Edinburgh Derby that has passion and atmosphere than a soulless tourist fest of a London derby for example.
 
I very rarely watch a match if it doesn’t involve Rangers.

I agree tho, we may not have the quality of other leagues but at least we have proper supporters in our league.

The EPL is exactly what id hate our game to become. Most are more of a tourist attraction than a passionate sports club with proper supporters.
 
With a few tweaks we'd have a half decent product to sell / advertise. Sadly as a nation we are miserable as %^*& and only concentrate on the negative aspects of everything. The TV coverage and fall out from games kind of sums this up.

With a more transparent and professional governing body, less click bait style coverage and more grass we could become a lot more grown up a set up.
 
As alluded to above, the product is dreadful. I only watch Rangers games, the rest continue to promote Scottish football to the world as the shortbread version of Wimbledon 88.

The coverage and the half empty stadiums are an embarrassment. The only ounce of comfort is we all share the same passion for the game but we've been screaming out for a reboot for the best part of 30 years. The diddy clubs now equate passion to excellence whereas the rest of the world equate achievement to excellence. Until the leagues are re-organised into a top flight and 1st division with the rest either being amalgamated or going amateur we're going nowhere.
 
The standard of football up here is piss poor. Delusional to think otherwise.

You only have to look at Scotland’s national team and our diddy club’s efforts in Europe to realise that.

We can all moan about money but our truly shite referees mean any genuine technical ability is quickly battered out of our young players.

I long for a return to the days when our teams routinely reached the latter stages of European competition.

Never going to happen now whilst hammer throwing can earn you 17 winners medals in your career up north. Mongo has 17 winners medals. Let that sink in and then tell me that Scottish football is decent :eek:
 
cooprfc said:
I prefer it to the tourist league across the border. It remains proper football up here with guys attached to their club through having a feeling for them as opposed to monetary reasons.
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Yes but the money improves the product. Bournemouth, Swansea and Huddersfield had a combined gate receipt total of 18 mill last season. But all received over 100 mill from Sky! I wouldn't mind a slice of that.
 
Arminius said:
The standard of football up here is piss poor. Delusional to think otherwise.

You only have to look at Scotland’s national team and our diddy club’s efforts in Europe to realise that.

We can all moan about money but our truly shite referees mean any genuine technical ability is quickly battered out of our young players.

I long for a return to the days when our teams routinely reached the latter stages of European competition.

Never going to happen now whilst hammer throwing can earn you 17 winners medals in your career up north. Mongo has 17 winners medals. Let that sink in and then tell me that Scottish football is decent :eek:
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He wouldn't have been near a Celtic team even 20 or 30 years ago. Horrible how standards have fallen since around the late 80s.
 
The OP mentions "passion and intensity", unfortunately this becomes acceptable brutality when it is against Rangers, whereas a bit of petulance invites severe punishment when Rangers are the culprits.
If the mhankies are guilty of (frequent) brutality against anyone, this is usually described as robust.
Dems the rools guys.
 
Corrupt governing body and corrupt officials. And a backwards mainstream media.

We have the one of the best national team captains, who played high level in the EPL, as our manager. The media and SFA should be fawning over that and use him as a selling point to the rest of the world. But he doesnt manage their beloved Celtc... so is ignored.

(The football may not be pretty in Championship but the battle for promotion there may be worth watching... Dundee, Dunfermline etc)
 
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