Sheep to lose 8 players - Game vs St Johnstone Now Off

[cambridgeblue]

Are any of the Aberdeen player actually unwell ?

the game against SPFL board member Les Greys tram goes ahead as does Celtic and anyone is surprised ?

 

[GF1872]

Why would they risk passing on the virus by letting them play ? Aberdeen players have royally fuqed up here, for all we know the 2 infected players could have passed on the virus already at their training session on Sunday, they broke the rules so shouldn't get a chance to play for the 3 points.

Where do you draw the line? If one of our players catch it out for a meal and spread round team are we going to get the chance to play for 3 points?

 

[Enclosure-Loyal]

Another stitch up. It’s either all games on or all games off.
You can’t pick and choose the games ffs.

 

[Vader]

Motherwell seem to have had what looks to be a false positive test. A positive followed up by 2 negatives, but the player still has to self isolate for 7 days.

You just know that Celtic will be the only side in the league not to be affected by this over the season...

 

[McCoistscoresforRangers]

The game against the mentally challengeds should be postponed. 14 days isolation is it not

 

[Drumchapel-Bear]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd bet my mortgage 99% of people on here have broken lockdown guidelines at some point, whether that's been going to friends or family to socialise when they shouldn't have or the pub and also in bigger groups from more households than they should have.

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

That wee lunatic in Holyrood is playing political games again by calling them out. Where was her rage when her Health Minister was breaking lockdown rules in the very peak of the pandemic by going on multiple visits to her holiday homes? She actually backed her!

Her outrage at this is nothing more than a deflection tactic due to the ongoing exams scandal.

 

[Buffel87]

From what I can tell the game between Aberdeen and St Johnstone has been postponed due to the Scottish Goverment not wanting the Aberdeen players travelling down to Perth and potentially bringing the virus with them, it has nothing to do with them missing 8 players.

I also think (and this is guess work) that until the government are content that the whole Aberdeen team is free of the virus and this mini lockdown is lifted then they won't play again no matter who they play.

This was a government decision not a SPFL one.

Also I appreciate medical confidentiality however the question people should be asking (considering this story never broke until Wednesday night) is did any of the 'Aberdeen 8' train on Monday or Tuesday and if so the whole team should surely now be in quarantine ?

This is exactly the point on here that a lot of people are missing or trying to ignore. It was the government's decision to postpone this fixture today.

 

[Mark-Penny]

Where do you draw the line? If one of our players catch it out for a meal and spread round team are we going to get the chance to play for 3 points?

Our players shouldn’t be out for a meal. All players in the SPL have to be in a bubble hence the Aberdeen players breaking those rules. This is one of the reasons the season has been given the go ahead.

 

[KirkwallTrueBlue]

Where do you draw the line? If one of our players catch it out for a meal and spread round team are we going to get the chance to play for 3 points?

I ain't going to argue, go an watch Derek McInnes interview with the media, freely available on YouTube, they broke the government rulings, listen to what Derek McInnes has to say and how unfair it is on St Johnstone. One of our players going out for a meal and catching the virus is quite possible, infact its very possible however its within the rules and allowed however if 8 of our first team were to go for a meal then onto a club for drinks I'd fully expect the book to be thrown at us aswell.

 

[Mark-Penny]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd bet my mortgage 99% of people on here have broken lockdown guidelines at some point, whether that's been going to friends or family to socialise when they shouldn't have or the pub and also in bigger groups from more households than they should have.

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

That wee lunatic in Holyrood is playing political games again by calling them out. Where was her rage when her Health Minister was breaking lockdown rules in the very peak of the pandemic by going on multiple visits to her holiday homes? She actually backed her!

Her outrage at this is nothing more than a deflection tactic due to the ongoing exams scandal.

Not really tbf mate. All players in all teams have been instructed to stay within their bubbles so that football can go ahead in Scotland. They completely went against that and in turn have caused a whole shit storm of problems.

 

[GF1872]

Our players shouldn’t be out for a meal. All players in the SPL have to be in a bubble hence the Aberdeen players breaking those rules. This is one of the reasons the season has been given the go ahead.

Ok supermarket then. Punish the players involved yes, points deduction is not the way to go imo.

 

[dmaude1872]

The pandemic is serious and there needs to be a recognition of that. Clubs should be deducted points for not ensuring their players remain safe.

Or be forced to play.

It's simple.

 

[Kingging]

The players have been idiots but this won't be the last outbreak this season and there will be plenty postponements due to covid. Wouldn't surprise me if the season is curtailed to 22 games

 

[Mark-Penny]

Ok supermarket then. Punish the players involved yes, points deduction is not the way to go imo.

They’ve no got any points to deduct haha. Do you mean awarding St Johnstone the points from the game? I’m not so sure, if it was one or two players that caught it through no fault of their own then I would agree. These guys purposely went out during a pandemic when they were told not to and where they went was rammed full of people. They have shown a complete disregard for their fans and their own jobs. Their actions have caused a game to be postponed and In turn themselves to be disciplined.

Reading the local Facebook news pages up here they’re all raging with them. A lot saying they won’t be supporting the team again after this.

 

[Barrymoped]

This is exactly the point on here that a lot of people are missing or trying to ignore. It was the government's decision to postpone this fixture today.

Nope, got to be an SPFL Peter Lawell led conspiracy. Don’t you know he runs the country?!

 

[GF1872]

Agree with what y

They’ve no got any points to deduct haha. Do you mean awarding St Johnstone the points from the game? I’m not so sure, if it was one or two players that caught it through no fault of their own then I would agree. These guys purposely went out during a pandemic when they were told not to and where they went was rammed full of people. They have shown a complete disregard for their fans and their own jobs. Their actions have caused a game to be postponed and In turn themselves to be disciplined.

Reading the local Facebook news pages up here they’re all raging with them. A lot saying they won’t be supporting the team again after this.

I agree with what you are saying, my original post was in reply to a poster saying points should be forfeited. I dont agree with this, why not just make them play with reserves in place of the 8 offenders. Punish the players not the whole club for their stupidity.

 

[Mark-Penny]

Agree with what y

I agree with what you are saying, my original post was in reply to a poster saying points should be forfeited. I dont agree with this, why not just make them play with reserves in place of the 8 offenders. Punish the players not the whole club for their stupidity.

That was the intent at first. But the S Gov stepped in and said the whole team couldn’t travel. Its a tricky one. If I was DM I’d be fucking mortified and raging at them.

 

[GF1872]

That was the intent at first. But the S Gov stepped in and said the whole team couldn’t travel. Its a tricky one. If I was DM I’d be fucking mortified and raging at them.

Fair enough mate, I’ve missed that. As you say it’s not will set a standard for others.

 

[Ilikethewayyoumove]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd bet my mortgage 99% of people on here have broken lockdown guidelines at some point, whether that's been going to friends or family to socialise when they shouldn't have or the pub and also in bigger groups from more households than they should have.

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

That wee lunatic in Holyrood is playing political games again by calling them out. Where was her rage when her Health Minister was breaking lockdown rules in the very peak of the pandemic by going on multiple visits to her holiday homes? She actually backed her!

Her outrage at this is nothing more than a deflection tactic due to the ongoing exams scandal.

Very good points, of course people haven't followed the rule's through this. The rules for football returning are mental for players tbf. Imagine if it was us getting a game postponed though, all hell would break loose. Sinces it's Aberdeen I'd take points and the European place off them just to be nasty

 

[Amity75]

It actually dawned on me that, until yesterday, I’d genuinely never seen an Aberdeen fan up close, either on tv or in real life. Seeing them all being interviewed on tv yesterday made me realise just what an odd looking bunch they are.

 

[club175]

Where do you draw the line? If one of our players catch it out for a meal and spread round team are we going to get the chance to play for 3 points?

the players shouldnt be out for a meal or going to Tesco or buying a pint in a bar. It’s really simple. They should go from home to the training ground and to games for the forseeable

 

[MacGyver]

The game against the mentally challengeds should be postponed. 14 days isolation is it not

For sure! You saw last season the benefit of getting points on the board and the difficulty squeezing make up games in. Let’s see how they like it!

 

[Valley Bluenose]

the players shouldnt be out for a meal or going to Tesco or buying a pint in a bar. It’s really simple. They should go from home to the training ground and to games for the forseeable

What if their partner goes to Tesco and bring it home? Kid brings it home from school?

 

[Robocop1960]

If their games against Hamilton and Celtic are allowed to go ahead when they are missing so many players it makes a mockery of our league.But then again if Celtic are involved nothing would surprise me.

 

[Barrymoped]

the players shouldnt be out for a meal or going to Tesco or buying a pint in a bar. It’s really simple. They should go from home to the training ground and to games for the forseeable

Nonsense.
Players can’t live like that for any length of time, it’s utterly impractical.

They have to take sensible precautions, ie don’t go to packed city centre boozers, but they need a life as well.

 

[leviathan]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time...

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

We’re in a pandemic FFS. Football has only been given the go ahead on the strict instruction that players, coaches etc don’t socialise. That means, home, football, home. That’s it. Can’t get any clearer instructions than that.
having a pissup in a nightclub is a piss take.

 

[Hazylight1989]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd bet my mortgage 99% of people on here have broken lockdown guidelines at some point, whether that's been going to friends or family to socialise when they shouldn't have or the pub and also in bigger groups from more households than they should have.

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

That wee lunatic in Holyrood is playing political games again by calling them out. Where was her rage when her Health Minister was breaking lockdown rules in the very peak of the pandemic by going on multiple visits to her holiday homes? She actually backed her!

Her outrage at this is nothing more than a deflection tactic due to the ongoing exams scandal.

Sturgeon wants/needs the schools to go back - absolutely anything that gets in the way of that will be in her and her cults crosshairs.

 

[Alvor]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd bet my mortgage 99% of people on here have broken lockdown guidelines at some point, whether that's been going to friends or family to socialise when they shouldn't have or the pub and also in bigger groups from more households than they should have.

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

That wee lunatic in Holyrood is playing political games again by calling them out. Where was her rage when her Health Minister was breaking lockdown rules in the very peak of the pandemic by going on multiple visits to her holiday homes? She actually backed her!

Her outrage at this is nothing more than a deflection tactic due to the ongoing exams scandal.

You are spot on.

Attack a convenient scapegoat just when your own performance is lacking.

 

[602-Squadron]

Personally I think it's shocking the way the Aberdeen players are being demonized for this. Did they make a mistake? Yes but they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd bet my mortgage 99% of people on here have broken lockdown guidelines at some point, whether that's been going to friends or family to socialise when they shouldn't have or the pub and also in bigger groups from more households than they should have.

The Sheep players are only human at the end of the day like the rest of us.

That wee lunatic in Holyrood is playing political games again by calling them out. Where was her rage when her Health Minister was breaking lockdown rules in the very peak of the pandemic by going on multiple visits to her holiday homes? She actually backed her!

Her outrage at this is nothing more than a deflection tactic due to the ongoing exams scandal.

I'll tell you this mate, no way would sturgeon have had a press conference ripping into celtic players, if the same happened.

Bars and restaurants are open to the public, end off. Theres no law as far as I'm aware of sportspeople being banned from them. In fact is there any actual proof this is where it came from. Trial by social media, by the looks of it.

As for forfeiting points, if that was to be the rules, what if it happens to rangers?

Dont come on here complaining about an spfl conspiracy to hand them the title. Be careful what you wish for

 

[Mark-Penny]

I'll tell you this mate, no way would sturgeon have had a press conference ripping into celtic players, if the same happened.

Bars and restaurants are open to the public, end off. Theres no law as far as I'm aware of sportspeople being banned from them. In fact is there any actual proof this is where it came from. Trial by social media, by the looks of it.

As for forfeiting points, if that was to be the rules, what if it happens to Rangers?

Dont come on here complaining about an spfl conspiracy to hand them the title. Be careful what you wish for

All players in the league are supposed to be in social bubbles to try and prevent this exact situation happening. They have done the complete opposite and in turn have caused a game to be postponed.

 

[602-Squadron]

All players in the league are supposed to be in social bubbles to try and prevent this exact situation happening. They have done the complete opposite and in turn have caused a game to be postponed.

Do you know this for sure. How do you know exactly where it came from. Has anybody else at the bar been diagnosed?

What if Rangers end up in this position, regardless how they caught it. Will you be happy to see us made to play with most of the first team out or points deducted.

Start doing that and it sets a dangerous precedent.

 

[Mark-Penny]

Do you know this for sure. How do you know exactly where it came from. Has anybody else at the bar been diagnosed?

What if Rangers end up in this position, regardless how they caught it. Will you be happy to see us made to play with most of the first team out or points deducted.

Start doing that and it sets a dangerous precedent.

Yes, the bar in question is one of the places the infected people from the Hawthorn bar went to. 101 cases now here in Aberdeen. It doesn’t really matter what bar they were in. It matters they were in one in the first place when they’ve been told not to.

There’s a difference between catching it from your mrs who went to Tesco compared to going to a potential hot spot ignoring guidelines from your employer and the government.

if our players did this they should be punished accordingly for ignoring instructions and putting games at risk.

 

[602-Squadron]

Yes, the bar in question is one of the places the infected people from the Hawthorn bar went to. 101 cases now here in Aberdeen. It doesn’t really matter what bar they were in. It matters they were in one in the first place when they’ve been told not to.

There’s a difference between catching it from your mrs who went to Tesco compared to going to a potential hot spot ignoring guidelines from your employer and the government.

if our players did this they should be punished accordingly for ignoring instructions and putting games at risk.

The problem with this is, it's only hearsay at the end of the day. Now if another team has the same problem, by someone in another environment, and they weren't punished, then Aberdeen quite rightly would have to appeal it.

You cant have one different set of punishments for clubs regarding how it has spread through the team. As I say, without conclusive proof, we cant have rules on hearsay

 

[Ubik]

Bars and restaurants are open to the public, end off. Theres no law as far as I'm aware of sportspeople being banned from them.

of course there is no law prohibiting certain people from anywhere due to their profession however their clubs will have insisted on following rules during this pandemic. The clubs would take advice from SFA/SPFL and our shitey government.

Did they break those rules, if so, then fuk them.

 

[Mark-Penny]

The problem with this is, it's only hearsay at the end of the day. Now if another team has the same problem, by someone in another environment, and they weren't punished, then Aberdeen quite rightly would have to appeal it.

You cant have one different set of punishments for clubs regarding how it has spread through the team. As I say, without conclusive proof, we cant have rules on hearsay

I don’t understand what proof you’re looking for? 8 players went to a bar when they were instructed not to. That isn’t hearsay it’s fact. It’s also a fact that, Soul where they went is on a list of 28 venues that positive cases attended that night. I’m not sure what you’re looking for?
If a player got the virus whilst in his social bubble as Instructed then there’s not a lot you can do about that and the club can’t be punished it’s just unfortunate. If players go out of their way to ignore the rules given to them and the consequences of that results in a game being postponed then I think a different punishment should be given.

 

[Mview83]

Supposedly a sheep players wife was posting on social media she was in Spain on holiday last week also and then said she was refusing to self isolate when she got back when questioned on it.

 

[jorg_the_hammer]

Asked

I would hope that Rangers have made it abundantly clear to players to avoid bars , restaurants and shops. If we haven’t and we get an outbreak we deserve no sympathy

Question. Say a rangers player(s) caught covid from an opposition player during a game. Would you have no sympathy then? It is technically feasible.

 

[602-Squadron]

I don’t understand what proof you’re looking for? 8 players went to a bar when they were instructed not to. That isn’t hearsay it’s fact. It’s also a fact that, Soul where they went is on a list of 28 venues that positive cases attended that night. I’m not sure what you’re looking for?
If a player got the virus whilst in his social bubble as Instructed then there’s not a lot you can do about that and the club can’t be punished it’s just unfortunate. If players go out of their way to ignore the rules given to them and the consequences of that results in a game being postponed then I think a different punishment should be given.

Whilst it is very likely, it wouldn't stand up in a court of law.

All I'm saying is, we start going down the path of different punishments for clubs by how they believe it has spread, then we're opening up a can of worms.

If the club wish to fine the players, then that's fair enough, but punishing the club doesnt sit well with me.

 

[Sam English]

How on earth does a competition keep its integrity when a team can play one week with a full compliment and be out 8 players the next?

Put clowns in charge of running/ ruining the game and hey presto............

 

[Drumchapel-Bear]

We’re in a pandemic FFS. Football has only been given the go ahead on the strict instruction that players, coaches etc don’t socialise. That means, home, football, home. That’s it. Can’t get any clearer instructions than that.
having a pissup in a nightclub is a piss take.

They are human beings, they might be footballers but they are still human beings and no different to the rest of us.

What about young, single footballers who maybe stay in a one bedroom flat by themselves? They just to go to training every day, home, games and then home again with no other contact with the outside world? That would be good for their mental health wouldn't it?

Think about it logically before going on a mad rant.

 

[Sam English]

Are any of the Aberdeen player actually unwell ?

the game against SPFL board member Les Greys tram goes ahead as does Celtic and anyone is surprised ?

Not surprised in the least.

Absolute clusterfeck

 

[Mark-Penny]

Whilst it is very likely, it wouldn't stand up in a court of law.

All I'm saying is, we start going down the path of different punishments for clubs by how they believe it has spread, then we're opening up a can of worms.

If the club wish to fine the players, then that's fair enough, but punishing the club doesnt sit well with me.

Two of them tested positive after being out. The rest were told to isolate as they were out with them. It doesn’t need to go to a court of law... the fact they ignored the rules given to them and the result is this is all that matters.

I would hope every other clubs players would adhere to the rules and guidelines meaning punishments wouldn’t be necessary.

The Aberdeen players should be punished internally without a doubt. What happens to the club I’m not sure.

 

[servicepoint]

Supposedly a sheep players wife was posting on social media she was in Spain on holiday last week also and then said she was refusing to self isolate when she got back when questioned on it.

Having been in Spain myself in the last few weeks I’d say you are far more likely to catch the virus here in Scotland than in Spain, they are far stricter on mask wearing and hygiene in bars, restaurants and shops than we are ard the Spanish themselves seem to be adhering to the rules unlike what I see in Scotland.

 

[Mark-Penny]

Are any of the Aberdeen player actually unwell ?

the game against SPFL board member Les Greys tram goes ahead as does Celtic and anyone is surprised ?

No, they’re asymptomatic.

 

[club175]

Asked

Question. Say a Rangers player(s) caught covid from an opposition player during a game. Would you have no sympathy then? It is technically feasible.

Offcourse I would. What I wouldn’t have sympathy for is going to bars , restaurants and shops. I would be very suprised if rangers haven’t made it clear to players not to go to these places.

 

[jorg_the_hammer]

Incredible that people genuinely believe that football players should wake up, potter about the house, go to training, go straight home, potter about then go to bed. No interactions with anyone other than their household. Get food delivered. If they stay on their own, tough, you ain't seeing anyone other than your teammates.

 

[club175]

What if their partner goes to Tesco and bring it home? Kid brings it home from school?

then you have done everything you can to minimise the risk. What has happened at Aberdeen is a complete joke. There is no way players should be putting themselves into potentially dangerous situations willingly

 

[club175]

Incredible that people genuinely believe that football players should wake up, potter about the house, go to training, go straight home, potter about then go to bed. No interactions with anyone other than their household. Get food delivered. If they stay on their own, tough, you ain't seeing anyone other than your teammates.

it’s what we all managed to do for 2-3 months. These guys are professional athletes and they should do what is required to minimise the risk

 

[Mark-Penny]

Incredible that people genuinely believe that football players should wake up, potter about the house, go to training, go straight home, potter about then go to bed. No interactions with anyone other than their household. Get food delivered. If they stay on their own, tough, you ain't seeing anyone other than your teammates.

That’s part of the social bubble they’ve been asked to adhere to. A prerequisite for games going ahead in Scotland.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

then you have done everything you can to minimise the risk. What has happened at Aberdeen is a complete joke. There is no way players should be putting themselves into potentially dangerous situations willingly

Don't get me wrong mate. The players should be heavily fined. Probably a small fine for the club as well.

Talk of forfeiting matches, or being made to play the Reserves, doesn't sit well with me. If this is the protocol it will apply regardless of circumstance - be it infection through stupidity or by accident - and it will impact other clubs, possibly including ourselves, over the course of the season. Easy to laugh at the Sheep and demand sanctions but we have to think ahead.