remembertheepoch
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Im going down its a red for endangering a players safety.
Ref never even blew for a foul ......footballs a contact sport injury happen hopefully the lad makes a full recoveryI've now seen it on twitter and it's 100% a red card.
No intent and it is unfortunate for both players but diving into slide tackles at full pace from behind like that is reckless and dangerous.
Just had a look, and as much as its a horrible injury it is not a red. If the boy hadn't been injured noone would even be suggesting a red.IMO, yes it was overly physical. HE's studs didn't catch on the turf and the physical actions of the Leads player led to the injury.
Two go in hard for a 50/50, ball in middle of both players and one comes out with a broken ankle. Red card?As far as I'm concerned, and I don't want to see challenge again, any over physical challenge that leads to horrific injuries like this boy has just suffered should be red cards.
Two footed jump over the ball not a red card... ?
Yeah the idea that we should have a rule whereby if a player is injured after a fairly innocuous tackle, then the defending player should be be red carded, is just bollocks to me personally.Just had a look, and as much as its a horrible injury it is not a red. If the boy hadn't been injured noone would even be suggesting a red.
Guy is young enough, and with the best of doctors etc to come back. Here's hoping he does
Cooper made a pretty much identical challenge since it happened which imo shows that it’s just bad luck that it happened like that with Elliot.Wonder if the players are holding back a bit after that, not many full blooded challenges since.
I think so . Players need to be aware of the consequences of their actions. Careers can be ruined because of heavy physical challenges. Freak accidents happen but today HE has a bad injury due to the physical nature of the challenge him by an opponent.Two go in hard for a 50/50, ball in middle of both players and one comes out with a broken ankle. Red card?
Possibly my acl being snapped when playing amateur football and the guy got nothing makes me see these kind of challenges differently.Why do I feel like you’ve been on the end of a particularly bad challenge
I always think that there is maybe a weakness in the break area before it’s happened. Some totally innocuous challenges end up with horrible breaks.
I broke my foot in March and the pain was horrendous when it happened but I felt literally no pain afterwards or during the healing process.
Aye, let's hope he make a full recovery. My opinion is that if a player does want to be heavy physical or is prepared to go 100 mile a hour into challenges then there could be consequences.Just had a look, and as much as its a horrible injury it is not a red. If the boy hadn't been injured noone would even be suggesting a red.
Guy is young enough, and with the best of doctors etc to come back. Here's hoping he does
He was referring to you having one leg I think.Possibly my acl being snapped when playing amateur football and the guy got nothing makes me see these kind of challenges differently.
I always think that there is maybe a weakness in the break area before it’s happened. Some totally innocuous challenges end up with horrible breaks.
I broke my foot in March and the pain was horrendous when it happened but I felt literally no pain afterwards or during the healing process.
Not necessarily true mate. I got my leg broke when playing and I’m sure the guy had no intention other than a good strong tackle. I also broke a lads leg in a full 50/50 tackle with absolutely no malice.I've not seen it back but if you snap someone's leg in a tackle then it should be a red card.
I know it sounds strange but if its a clean break then it's much better than ligament damage when it comes to rehab.
If it's a clean break then I wouldn't be surprised to see the lad back playing in January/February.
Nonsense.I think so . Players need to be aware of the consequences of their actions. Careers can be ruined because of heavy physical challenges. Freak accidents happen but today HE has a bad injury due to the physical nature of the challenge him by an opponent.
Possibly my acl being snapped when playing amateur football and the guy got nothing makes me see these kind of challenges differently.
I never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.Nonsense.
Its a physical sport.
Hope the boy makes a full recovery amd continues with his promising career. The challenge was in no way malicious or with intent.
You shouldn’t be allowed to air your views on the internet.As far as I'm concerned, and I don't want to see challenge again, any over physical challenge that leads to horrific injuries like this boy has just suffered should be red cards.
His foot was pointing a different way from the rest of his leg, do yeah, we're assuming so.Was it a break?
Nope.I said on the other thread.. You guys saying it was never a red card. I bet your opinions would be different if it was Brown on Jack or Morelos. It was a stonelwall red card leg break or not.
Should we ban tackles?I never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.
That doesn’t make senseI never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.
Every challenge is physical. If the injury didn't happen nobody would be taking about the tackle.I never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.
It’s a contact sport. Injuries happen. Sometimes they can be career wreckers and still be fundamentally down to bad luck. That’s why insurance exists.I never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.
If they’re making dangerous tackles with excessive force then I agree. But that tackle falls into neither category and he really didn’t deserve to go.I never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.
Not necessarily true mate. I got my leg broke when playing and I’m sure the guy had no intention other than a good strong tackle. I also broke a lads leg in a full 50/50 tackle with absolutely no malice.
Bollocks.As far as I'm concerned, and I don't want to see challenge again, any over physical challenge that leads to horrific injuries like this boy has just suffered should be red cards.
Ah well. Each to their own.Bollocks.
That makes absolute no sense then with a million and one body shapes and sizes who decides what's excessive force? Ohh you're 6ft+ can't tackle the wee guys.It's not about intent though.
If you go into a tackle with enough force to break someone's leg then IMO you're using excessive force and it's a red card.
Where does it end though? Morelos holds off a player, using his physique and turns the defender and the defender twists his knee....Morelos fault? Thats where this goes. The lad has taken a sore one today but it wasnt intentional, in fact Im sure the Leeds player will be in bits about it.I never said the Leads player was malicious or went with intent. But there's got to be consequences for horrific injuries that happen due to the physical nature of other players.
I like you point of view. But as i have said before. If that was Brown. or another mentally challenged on Morelos or Jack you are happy with it?Nope.
I watched it live. Ref never gave a foul at the time and I think most people initially processed it as a good recovery tackle and were following the ball. The guy wins the ball with his right foot and unfortunately his left boot connected with the back of the guy’s leg in a way which caused a break (and I’m still really not sure how).
If you watch replay after replay out of context when you know what you’re looking for then you’re going to view it differently.
I’d be gutted if we lost a player to an injury like that but there doesn’t always have to be outrage and someone to blame. It’s a contact sport. You saw how the Liverpool players were decent with the Leeds player in the aftermath. If they thought he’d been out of order their demeanour would’ve been entirely different.
You might not intend to injury somebody but if you go full bloodied into challenges and horrific injuries happen , players need to know there are consequences.That doesn’t make sense
That makes absolute no sense then with a million and one body shapes and sizes who decides what's excessive force? Ohh you're 6ft+ can't tackle the wee guys.
He did win the ball. If you stopped it before his leg was in the air after being broke you would say it was a good tackleI like you point of view. But as i have said before. If that was Brown. or another mentally challenged on Morelos or Jack you are happy with it?
ps.. Did he actually win the ball? And remember winning the ball does not always mean it is not a foul, especially from behind the player. He has hit the boy and snapped his leg. How is that endangering the player?
He has went through the boy, hit his leg and broke it. How is that not excessive or endangering a player...If they’re making dangerous tackles with excessive force then I agree. But that tackle falls into neither category and he really didn’t deserve to go.
Somebody can be injured badly without it being a horrific tackle.
His scissor kick action caught the boy and broke his leg all from behind. It was a stonewall sending off... You are correct. I posted a link to it up the page.Only reason I think it’s a red, is his trailing leg catches the player in a “scissor” style, which is a red card. Admittedly I’ve only watched it once, and at full speed so could be totally wrong!.