rayrangers
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Why has this taken so long to come about?
Would love to see Speirs get his arse handed to him again on TVFFS just had a horrible thought, will the tax experts aka Thompson and Spiers get prime time again?
It stunk at the time then we had the walzing in of Green from the ether and the money those sharks took, now this. All very murky.
A sum to pay for our now impending transfer of Mbappe also would be niceOnly thing that will undo the hell we’ve been through is 55, but heads rolling at HMRC for this will be a nice wee added bonus to the fairytale ending
Isn't DK a creditor of the OldCo and therefore due recompense in any payout?
DK is no mug , as evidenced by his 20 year battle with the SA tax authorities.
I firmly believe he has the heart to go after HMRC to restore our good name.
The bastards are spending 4.5 BILLION on this new rail network mate.
Better keep 50 million back to look into this & the scums child abuse.
Could whyte potentially sue hmrc as he was the owner at the time?
So could the new company not transfer its assets to oldco and reinstate the trading licence and then we’d be entitled to some compensation? I’m not exactly educated with this stuff
Taxman's £50m 'blunder' blamed for Rangers going bust
HMRC is set to wipe out as much as £50million from a tax bill owed by Rangers’ old operating company after a ‘multimillion-pound blunder’, it has been claimed. The Times reports t…www.thescottishsun.co.uk
Possibly ... he has the brass neck to do so.
Murray too who might see this as a nice little earner.
From a purely personal point of view, I would love to see someone go after the SFA and SPFL in court.
I am a shareholder, an idiots guide would help.Possibly ... he has the brass neck to do so.
Murray too who might see this as a nice little earner.
From a purely personal point of view, I would love to see someone go after the SFA and SPFL in court.
Its neither her or there, but I'm fairly certain their big ebt was for Juninho.
Could whyte potentially sue hmrc as he was the owner at the time?
Liquadate the new company and come back as old RangersDoes this then raise interesting questions about the validity of any deals signed by the spivs?
Could the fat fucker be about to lose all his leverage on us, and have to pay back the exit fees etc?
Edit: just seen this, posted at more or less the same time:
I am a shareholder, an idiots guide would help.
Not fishing or anything of the like but can we go after those who destroyed out shareholding?
The RST must have held a fair block.
Taxman's £50m 'blunder' blamed for Rangers going bust
HMRC is set to wipe out as much as £50million from a tax bill owed by Rangers’ old operating company after a ‘multimillion-pound blunder’, it has been claimed. The Times reports t…www.thescottishsun.co.uk
My over-riding emotion on reading this story is absolute, unfiltered rage.
The sequence of events that was triggered by this "innocent mistake" (what, did they forget to carry the one when working it out on their abacus?) very nearly destroyed our proud and historic club. We survived by the skin of our teeth and are still dealing with the financial repercussions on a daily basis, albeit finally looking to be edging back towards a strong position.
I really am not a conspiracy theorist by nature. But it's as clear as day now to me that the whole ordeal was pre-meditated from day 1 and a conspiracy / collusion between like-minded individuals across several prominent organisations. A scale that is so vast that it's difficult to even comprehend.
Thankfully, we have the perfect man in charge now to consider this revelation and ensure that our next steps are clear and ruthless. In King we trust.
However, I fear that the real culprits and puppet masters will never be truly brought to justice, especially not in today's current political climate where there is no appetite to review what really happened and to even express a shred of respect towards Rangers is tantamount to career suicide. I hope I'm wrong as nothing would make me happier than a full independent review and exposure of the criminality involved, with nothing short of jail terms acceptable as a result. Where the guilty parties can contemplate (between their daily buggerings) and cry over how they ended up there and didn't even succeed in completing their objective in the first place.
???Liquadate the new company and come back as old Rangers
Would render all dealings with SD null and void I think, which would be fucking spectacularWithout going off on a tangent but if that could or did happen where would we stand re that Fat c*nt Ashley??
I sat on a train home from work and cried like a fùcking child at the prospect of not having Rangers to pass on to my at the time unborn son.I like many have cried real tears of frustration, anger and disbelief over their handling of this and that shocking verdict from the supreme court! I pray there is some kind of justice to be found but fear no kind will suit as to the roll on affect of this deliberate act by whoever in hmrc has had on our club!
Company???
we are Rangers, not old not new
Would render all dealings with SD null and void I think, which would be fucking spectacular
Gets us out these present contracts with the fat man if its proven the previous regime have been wronged that's what I'm meaning bro???
we are Rangers, not old not new
If this is as it seems at first glance-
This should be appearing on the front and back of every newspaper tomorrow morning.
This is one of, if not the, biggest scandals in sporting history.
Rangers didn’t die, let alone in vain- but the bastards who tried to destroy us will.
The day we retake our place at the pinnacle of our game will be the greatest day of our lives.
Rangers FC will go on, forever and ever.
Does this then raise interesting questions about the validity of any deals signed by the spivs?
Could the fat fucker be about to lose all his leverage on us, and have to pay back the exit fees etc?
Edit: just seen this, posted at more or less the same time:
Could whyte potentially sue hmrc as he was the owner at the time?
How the fook can anyone at HMRC " miscalculate " a tax bill by £ 50 million ? The more I read of this, the worse it gets. We were nearly destroyed for an easily manageable £ 20 million tax bill ?
Yes....but the size and scale of the perceived Rangers tax bill was the threat to the Murray empire that HAD to be separated. He was FORCED to sell. When any Rangers debt was serviceable.1. Murray was being chased for tax against all his companies, RFC being one of them, which had the biggest tax liability according to HRMC.
2. He sold RFC to Whyte, along with contingent tax liabilities.
3. Whyte failed to pay tax and, if I remember correctly, NI contributions and subsequently applied for a CVA which was rejected.
Whyte was a f*ckin shyster - that is not in dispute.
However, Murray was under pressure from HRMC and wanted out to protect the rest of his empire.
This is totally under the assumption this happens though. King has been on record saying that he’d like to bring back the oldco at one point when it became a viable option (which seems like now tbh). Seems logical though if we’re entitled to a good bit of compo that way and it gets rid of Ashley. From what I’ve read, BDO feel as if liquidation is incorrect, and therefore are holding onto the papers that finalise that process as a result of what’s happened. So King could technically do it if it’s all true, or at least that’s how it sounds! Unless there’s something I’m missing entirely (but I fucking hope there isn’t)That's what I was thinking haha.
Cue an incoming HUGE boot in the Niagra Falls for the Fat Man.
Nobody makes 50m mistakes without someone noticing.
Make no mistake this was a politically motivated and concerted effort from someone in hmrc to end us.
Put the decimal point in the wrong place. Dirty bastards.My over-riding emotion on reading this story is absolute, unfiltered rage.
The sequence of events that was triggered by this "innocent mistake" (what, did they forget to carry the one when working it out on their abacus?) very nearly destroyed our proud and historic club. We survived by the skin of our teeth and are still dealing with the financial repercussions on a daily basis, albeit finally looking to be edging back towards a strong position.
I really am not a conspiracy theorist by nature. But it's as clear as day now to me that the whole ordeal was pre-meditated from day 1 and a conspiracy / collusion between like-minded individuals across several prominent organisations. A scale that is so vast that it's difficult to even comprehend.
Thankfully, we have the perfect man in charge now to consider this revelation and ensure that our next steps are clear and ruthless. In King we trust.
However, I fear that the real culprits and puppet masters will never be truly brought to justice, especially not in today's current political climate where there is no appetite to review what really happened and to even express a shred of respect towards Rangers is tantamount to career suicide. I hope I'm wrong as nothing would make me happier than a full independent review and exposure of the criminality involved, with nothing short of jail terms acceptable as a result. Where the guilty parties can contemplate (between their daily buggerings) and cry over how they ended up there and didn't even succeed in completing their objective in the first place.
It’s very difficult to believe there’s a mistake given how many court cases etc. There’s no way it was only looked at once and that figure carried all those times?This is the bit I don’t understand. HMRC should certainly not have made a mistake of this magnitude, but why the hell did no one from Rangers, our accountants, Duff & Phelps or BDO notice it?