I agreeOut thrm up on the screens
Anyone singing them loses season ticket and this includes away games
We are held to a different standard I know but this is the only solution imo
UEFA admitted this was the case when dealing with Ajax and their use of 19th Century Terrorist. The Scottish powers that be don’t treat it as an offence, but agree that it would cause offence to some Celtic fans. If they clamped down on it, Scottish football and the support would be a complete clusterfuck with games played behind closed doors every week.In Europe, there's one song and one word that's not allowed: TBB and the word '19th Century Terrorist'.
Domestically, there can't and won't be anything banned as it's an absolute minefield to implement strict liability by the authorities.
We need to box clever in Europe and be steadfast domestically as we've seen what happened before when we stopped singing whatever songs our enemies didn't like. They just moved the goalposts again and again.
I was meaning more domestically when we stopped TBB for years and also the Famine Song.UEFA admitted this was the case when dealing with Ajax and their use of 19th Century Terrorist. The Scottish powers that be don’t treat it as an offence, but agree that it would cause offence to some Celtic fans. If they clamped down on it, Scottish football and the support would be a complete clusterfuck with games played behind closed doors every week.
With regards to UEFA moving goalposts, the use of the word 19th Century Terrorist has been outlawed basically for 20 years. Before every game there are posts on here talking about how we should behave because FARE will be there, yet it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. We’ve thought we can get away with it. We can’t.
Unfortunately even telling them probably won’t stop a lot of them. They seem he’ll bent on confrontation going by some of the posts over the last view days and there will only be one winner. It ain’t gonna be us.Do people need told they shouldn't be singing 50p flute, Super Rangers with fb, tbb or others that mention 19th Century Terrorists or the pope?
Out thrm up on the screens
Anyone singing them loses season ticket and this includes away games
We are held to a different standard I know but this is the only solution imo
The list is clear and has been issued by 4lads blog and others .
Anything with 19th Century Terrorist
Super Rangers
The billy boys
No pope of rome
50p flute
Bobby sands/IRA
And obviously any addons with pope 19th Century Terrorist sands etc
It’s pretty simple . It really isn’t difficult .
I get the impression some people just want to muddy the waters as they cannot live their lives without singing about dead terrorists and papal leaders .
The Tiffany abomination needs to be added to that.
To be fair nobody sings that inside a stadium . We could be here all day going down the road of ditties sung on buses and clubs .
Not ever? I take your word for it.
Do people need told they shouldn't be singing 50p flute, Super Rangers with fb, tbb or others that mention 19th Century Terrorists or the pope?
It seems some of us are , which is why we now find ourselves in this situation.A list - Jesus Christ, are we that thick?
I agree with you 100%.Go look at 4lads blog it's not rocket science
ONPOR, flute song, add ons, 19th Century Terrorist etc. I'm baffled as to why so many cant see how obvious the offensive songs are.
Let them come after DWs for example. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
A list - Jesus Christ, are we that thick?
I'm sure Dave King did this before at our first European game since coming back up.He did a speech before the game started and warned the support then that they were being monitored. It still didn't make a difference.If Dave King has to go to the centre circle pre match with a microphone to provide clarity, then so be it.
I agree . We should stick a sheet of paper on every seat in the stadium before Thursdays game with the songs that UEFA deem unacceptable.
No point - most of them wouldn't (or couldn't) read it.Out thrm up on the screens
Anyone singing them loses season ticket and this includes away games
We are held to a different standard I know but this is the only solution imo
Clearly I am.
I’m shocked Bobby Sands/IRA are on the list. I thought most right thinking people would have had nothing but contempt for them.
noone despises PIRA and all of its tentacles more than me, ive sung all of the songs all over the world however its 2019, we as a Support need to grow up, we can sing what we want on buses, in Supporters Clubs etc but not at Ibrox, we have loads of great Rangers songs, dust them down instead of stuff about an organisation who were defeated by Britain before most of those singing were born.Clearly I am.
I’m shocked Bobby Sands/IRA are on the list. I thought most right thinking people would have had nothing but contempt for them.
I think this has to happen. We were talking about it yesterday as a group of us were heading back from Poland.
I’d go one step further. No singing at all on Thursday. Show UEFA that the spectacle without a support will be meaningless.
I’d like to know what the end game is here and I reckon it will extend domestically should we get our noses in front.
I don’t want to be there on Thursday evening and get thrown out because I’ve joined in on Derry’s Walls for example. Some steward or fellow fan may deem that as sectarian and I could get ejected because of it.
A list - Jesus Christ, are we that thick?
I think this has to happen. We were talking about it yesterday as a group of us were heading back from Poland.
I’d go one step further. No singing at all on Thursday. Show UEFA that the spectacle without a support will be meaningless.
I’d like to know what the end game is here and I reckon it will extend domestically should we get our noses in front.
I don’t want to be there on Thursday evening and get thrown out because I’ve joined in on Derry’s Walls for example. Some steward or fellow fan may deem that as sectarian and I could get ejected because of it.
Our club anthem,Follow Follow,we have to bat clever with this also....Dundee Hamilton.....
I think this has to happen. We were talking about it yesterday as a group of us were heading back from Poland.
I’d go one step further. No singing at all on Thursday. Show UEFA that the spectacle without a support will be meaningless.
I’d like to know what the end game is here and I reckon it will extend domestically should we get our noses in front.
I don’t want to be there on Thursday evening and get thrown out because I’ve joined in on Derry’s Walls for example. Some steward or fellow fan may deem that as sectarian and I could get ejected because of it.
Mate I agree with what you're saying. I've posted a few times over last 24 hours we need to stop FTP and 19th Century Terrorist stuff it's been common sense foromg enough.Mate with all due respect the list is there on this thread . It’s everywhere . Derry’s walls isn’t banned ffs .
What good will a silent Ibrox do ? You think that will “ show” UEFA a single thing ? They don’t care .
I agree with you 100%.
I'm just worried what happens in the event FARE decide it is and report it to UEFA. Apparently there is no appeal and when UEFA can decide that singing 19th Century Terrorist is racist fűck knows where that would leave us if they pandering to FARE's whims.
so we are not meant to sing this or that yet Celtic as a club play a play republican sectarian song over their tannoy at games..Let the people sing!
A list - Jesus Christ, are we that thick?
so we are not meant to sing this or that yet Celtic as a club play a play republican sectarian song over their tannoy at games..Let the people sing!
Doesn’t matter. We know it’s an unfair playing ground. We have to cut out the add ons. Simple.
I disagree eufa have set the ball rolling,box clever and just can all the add ons it’s that simpleIn Europe, there's one song and one word that's not allowed: TBB and the word '19th Century Terrorist'.
Domestically, there can't and won't be anything banned as it's an absolute minefield to implement strict liability by the authorities.
We need to box clever in Europe and be steadfast domestically as we've seen what happened before when we stopped singing whatever songs our enemies didn't like - they just moved the goalposts again and again.
Is it just that word though? Do we have that clarity?UEFA won’t give a f*ck.
Just don’t say the word 19th Century Terrorist. It’s f*cking simple.
Is it double standards ? Without a doubt .
Does it matter to UEFA? They don’t give a single Fck .
We need to totally detach our thoughts and ourselves from that organisation across the city . They will fall on their sword in time .
Nothing else for it unfortunately.Out thrm up on the screens
Anyone singing them loses season ticket and this includes away games
We are held to a different standard I know but this is the only solution imo
A list - Jesus Christ, are we that thick?
so we are not meant to sing this or that yet Celtic as a club play a play republican sectarian song over their tannoy at games..Let the people sing!
or we point out all those little messy double standards as a collective and strong group of supporters!
Exactly mate. If someone uses a racist insult that no one has been done for at a match would people really say 'but it wasn't on the banned list, what's the problem'Is it just that word though? Do we have that clarity?
So it’s the Billy Boys and Super Rangers
FTP and anti IRA are ok? I don’t think so mate.
so we are not meant to sing this or that yet Celtic as a club play a play republican sectarian song over their tannoy at games..Let the people sing!
Please tell me you don't believe that! They have had 11 UEFA charges in the last few years and never had the punishment we have been given.
when opposing fans in domestic games are singing that we are Orange bast&rds and huns will you and the others calling for a list of banned songs go and demand action about this? Will you want arrests for this sectarian abuse aimed at you and report these opposing fans to the football authorities and want action against the club involved?How many times are these cunts going to get mentioned?