The fabled Manchester United number 7 shirt

TN8

TN8

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Best Cantona Beckham Ronaldo

Not bad. Am I missing anyone?

We don't really have an iconic shirt number do we?
 
TheLeatherKagool

TheLeatherKagool

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strider said:
A guy who played and won things for Man Utd and Real Madrid isn't iconic?

He also played for AC Milan and PSG.

Beckham was a great player who done far more in the game than many other English players who would definitely be considered iconic.
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My comment was regarding him as the No.7 for Man Utd and I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as Ronaldo or Cantona. I didn't say he wasn't a decent player.

I also wouldn't put him anywhere near Paul Scholes, Frank Lampard or Steven Gerrard and they didn't win anything for Real Madrid?

I'm interested to know the players he was better than that you would class as Iconic??
 
Jimmy the Gent

Jimmy the Gent

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Beckham was a phenomenal player, he would have been a starter for any club side in world football, Barca tried everything to sign him, he opted for Madrid an played alongside Zidane, Raul, Figo etc, he also played for Milan and PSG.

Tremendous footballer.
 
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HunterRFC

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In no world was Beckham ever the best player on the planet. No chance should he be winning a player of the year award. He was a good player and a world class specialist. Top clubs signed him because, whilst he was good and obviously brought something to the team, he was also a global brand, and whatever money they had to pay for and to him, was being made back tenfold.
 
servicepoint

servicepoint

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TheLeatherKagool said:
I wouldn't categorise Beckham as a "great", or put him anywhere near the bracket of Cantona and Ronaldo!
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Everyones entitled to their opinion but without checking their stats I reckon Beckham achieved much more in the game than Cantona who I reckon was pretty over rated (my opinion). Beckam played for the biggest clubs in football for a reason.

Cantona could be a right lazy B when it suited him where as Beckams workrate was exceptional.
 
Barryhopez

Barryhopez

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TheLeatherKagool said:
I wouldn't categorise Beckham as a "great", or put him anywhere near the bracket of Cantona and Ronaldo!
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I know it's the second time in 2 days I have disagreed with you, but David Beckham, in his role on the pitch, was a great and he is an iconic figure in football as well as a celebrity.

True he's not on the same level as Cantona and Ronaldo, but he is still a 'great' IMO.
 
TheLeatherKagool

TheLeatherKagool

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SDF said:
You could argue Beckham performed better at a higher level for Man Utd and country than Cantona ever did.
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Fair point mate, but for a couple of seasons at Manchester United, Cantona was the first name on that team sheet. I don't think you could say the same about Beckham at any stage in his career, for any club he played for. Albeit he did play at great clubs, we'll disregard PSG and AC as he played about a dozen games each for them.
 
omegaman

omegaman

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Jimmy the Gent said:
Beckham was a phenomenal player, he would have been a starter for any club side in world football, Barca tried everything to sign him, he opted for Madrid an played alongside Zidane, Raul, Figo etc, he also played for Milan and PSG.

Tremendous footballer.
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I think phenomenal is a bit OTT - I’d personally reserve that for the likes of Messi, Zidane, both Ronaldos, Ronaldinho, etc - but tremendous, definitely.

I think the problem he had was that his celebrity began to outstrip his abilities as a footballer, so that despite being arguably the most recognisable footballer in the planet (certainly the most photographed), he was far from being its best.
 
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strider

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TheLeatherKagool said:
My comment was regarding him as the No.7 for Man Utd and I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as Ronaldo or Cantona. I didn't say he wasn't a decent player.

I also wouldn't put him anywhere near Paul Scholes, Frank Lampard or Steven Gerrard and they didn't win anything for Real Madrid?

I'm interested to know the players he was better than that you would class as Iconic??
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I'd have him ahead of the likes of Shearer, Ian Wright or the likes.

Lampard and Gerrard too, and that's not to play down their ability. He achieved more than them overall, which really is the difference in this regard. It's why Totti won't be considered in quite the same bracket as Pirlo for example.

Your comment was that he wasn't an iconic footballer, but a celebrity. This is a player who won 6 Premier League titles, La Liga, Ligue 1, a Champions League, was runner up for the Ballon D'Or, Real Madrid player of the year in 2006, UEFA Club footballer of the year in 99, England player of the year in 2003.

That's an iconic footballer. Maybe he didn't have the ability levels of some you mention, but it's about far more than that.
 
TPB90

TPB90

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TN8 said:
I think plenty of Man Utd fans would disagree with you.
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Didn't he get voted their greatest ever player? That is an insult to Best and other Man Utd greats who came before Cantona.

Cantona is massively overrated. The EPL was dross and still majorly suffering from the English clubs European ban when he was tearing it up.
 
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