Craigie
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We cannot replace very member of the squad that, for example, this board wants punted.continuity is the last thing we need
Some unpopular decisions (for fans) will be made about players staying in the squad.
We cannot replace very member of the squad that, for example, this board wants punted.continuity is the last thing we need
If our resources were such that we could spend a few million on players like that and leave them on loan at their current club to continue development for a year or two, that would be the best approach.
I'm just not convinced we'll ever really be in a position to spend that way, not without making sacrifices in the short term that our support won't want to see at least.
If you asked our fans if they'd want us to spend £3m on Lennon Miller with him staying at Motherwell for a year at least to develop, or £3m on a 22 year old midfielder from a club abroad who is expected to come straight into the team, I'd imagine there would be a big majority who would choose the latter.
Dessers is our first striker since Kenny Miller to get 20 plus in the league. He has his faults but surely moving him this summer seems backwards. He's more than capable of contributing next season. We can't get rid of everyone.
I mean obviously if there's a decent fee offered that gets our money back then maybe it's one to consider but he's not the first person I'd be wanting out the door this summer.
I see Silva is being linked to ac Milan and Sevilla,£3m for Lawrence and Dowell is fanciful stuff
£3m for Lawrence and Dowell is fanciful stuff
Understand that managers want to keep the likes of Wright fit but one of my big frustrations is when a game is out of sight and you see a 30 year old coming on while leaving 18 year olds on the bench. Get them some experience.
That used to be my thinking too, but the flip side argument is that said youngster has to earn it, and I'm swayed by that.
If Wright or whomever it may be has been better in training, worked harder and everything else, they're the one who deserves the shirt. You can end up devaluing it somewhat otherwise.
Dessers is our first striker since Kenny Miller to get 20 plus in the league. He has his faults but surely moving him this summer seems backwards. He's more than capable of contributing next season. We can't get rid of everyone.
I mean obviously if there's a decent fee offered that gets our money back then maybe it's one to consider but he's not the first person I'd be wanting out the door this summer.
Keepers:
Robby McCrorie (26) - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Kieran Wright (25) - contract 6/2025 - Keep
Jack Butland (31) - contract 6/2027 - KEEP
Buy new 2nd choice goalie and or promote a youth player
Defence
Adam Devine (21) – RB – contract 6/2025 - New Contact and Loan Out
Johnly Yfeko (21) - CB contract 6/2026 - Loan Out
James Tavernier (32) – RB- contract 6/2026 - Sell, only if Saudi interest is real (£6/7m)
Leon King (20) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 4th/5th choice
Connor Goldson (31) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
John Souttar (27) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 2nd choice/rotational RCB
Ben Davies (28) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
Ridvan Yilmaz (22) - LB - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Dujon Sterling (24) - Anywhere - contract 6/2027 - Keep as Midfielder/Back up RB
Jose Cordoba In - £3m LCB
Jefte - £500k
Ben Johnson In - Free
First Choice RCB in
Midfield
Tom Lawrence (30) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£1m)
Scott Wright (26) - LW/RW - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Alex Lowry (20) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Keep and New Contract
Rabbi Matondo (23) – LW/RW - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Ianis Hagi (25) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Todd Cantwell (26) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Kieran Dowell (26) - AM - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£2m)
Nico Raskin (23) - CM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Ross Mcausland (21) - RW - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Mohamed Diomande (22) - CM - contract ? - Keep
Bailey Rice - Promote to First Team/Loan Out
Connor Barron In - Free
David Watson In - £2m
Cortes in - Loan with option to buy
Sima In - Loan
Danny Armstrong In - £2m (Wright replacement)
Box to Box Midfielder In
Creative Number 6 Midfielder In
Winger/Striker Hybrid
Strikers
Sam Lammers (27) - ST - contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Cyriel Dessers (29) - ST contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Danilo (25) - ST - contact 6/2028 - Keep
Lawrence Shankland In - £2m
Kilechi Iheanacho In - Free
Transfer Money in - £29M
Transfer Money Out on players identified - £9.5M
Budget Remaining for positions identified - £19.5M (Starting CB, 2 x CM's, Winger/Striker & Back Up GK)
Get it done, Nils my man.
I have just got rid of our dead wood for their maximum value and brought in younger, fitter players at a fraction of the price and wages, with a chunk left over to buy first team starters.Thank god you are not our scout or working in the recruitment department.
Plenty on here and elsewhere were saying they wanted Ferguson including me, it's not easy to say in hindsight when it was obvious the boy had somethingAnd its all easier to say in hindsight with those players you mention Hickey another etc where they go to teams that allow players time to develop.
You list crap players there but people didn't think we should sign Tillman whose just been sold for £15m as an example. £3m for a 17 year old in his first full season of mens football is expensive
Lawrence is 31 in January, has 1 year left on his deal and is looking slow and sluggish after coming off a long term injury issue.
Dowell is famously injury prone.
They’ll be on wages no Championship club would touch.
Neither are going anywhere.
Those sale prices are insane. Who's giving us a million quid for Lawrence? 2 million for Dowell, and 4 million each for Matondo and Hagi is the stuff of fantasy.Keepers:
Robby McCrorie (26) - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Kieran Wright (25) - contract 6/2025 - Keep
Jack Butland (31) - contract 6/2027 - KEEP
Buy new 2nd choice goalie and or promote a youth player
Defence
Adam Devine (21) – RB – contract 6/2025 - New Contact and Loan Out
Johnly Yfeko (21) - CB contract 6/2026 - Loan Out
James Tavernier (32) – RB- contract 6/2026 - Sell, only if Saudi interest is real (£6/7m)
Leon King (20) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 4th/5th choice
Connor Goldson (31) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
John Souttar (27) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 2nd choice/rotational RCB
Ben Davies (28) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
Ridvan Yilmaz (22) - LB - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Dujon Sterling (24) - Anywhere - contract 6/2027 - Keep as Midfielder/Back up RB
Jose Cordoba In - £3m LCB
Jefte - £500k
Ben Johnson In - Free
First Choice RCB in
Midfield
Tom Lawrence (30) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£1m)
Scott Wright (26) - LW/RW - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Alex Lowry (20) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Keep and New Contract
Rabbi Matondo (23) – LW/RW - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Ianis Hagi (25) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Todd Cantwell (26) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Kieran Dowell (26) - AM - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£2m)
Nico Raskin (23) - CM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Ross Mcausland (21) - RW - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Mohamed Diomande (22) - CM - contract ? - Keep
Bailey Rice - Promote to First Team/Loan Out
Connor Barron In - Free
David Watson In - £2m
Cortes in - Loan with option to buy
Sima In - Loan
Danny Armstrong In - £2m (Wright replacement)
Box to Box Midfielder In
Creative Number 6 Midfielder In
Winger/Striker Hybrid
Strikers
Sam Lammers (27) - ST - contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Cyriel Dessers (29) - ST contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Danilo (25) - ST - contact 6/2028 - Keep
Lawrence Shankland In - £2m
Kilechi Iheanacho In - Free
Transfer Money in - £29M
Transfer Money Out on players identified - £9.5M
Budget Remaining for positions identified - £19.5M (Starting CB, 2 x CM's, Winger/Striker & Back Up GK)
Get it done, Nils my man.
A guy in work whose son played in same boys club as Miller in Wishaw says he supports them, is this true?I know Lennon Miller's older brother and he wants to go down to England or Spain.
I don't think we will get him.
I have just got rid of our dead wood for their maximum value and brought in younger, fitter players at a fraction of the price and wages, with a chunk left over to buy first team starters.
Have some respect
here we go...A guy in work whose son played in same boys club as Miller in Wishaw says he supports them, is this true?
Your sale prices are wildKeepers:
Robby McCrorie (26) - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Kieran Wright (25) - contract 6/2025 - Keep
Jack Butland (31) - contract 6/2027 - KEEP
Buy new 2nd choice goalie and or promote a youth player
Defence
Adam Devine (21) – RB – contract 6/2025 - New Contact and Loan Out
Johnly Yfeko (21) - CB contract 6/2026 - Loan Out
James Tavernier (32) – RB- contract 6/2026 - Sell, only if Saudi interest is real (£6/7m)
Leon King (20) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 4th/5th choice
Connor Goldson (31) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
John Souttar (27) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 2nd choice/rotational RCB
Ben Davies (28) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
Ridvan Yilmaz (22) - LB - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Dujon Sterling (24) - Anywhere - contract 6/2027 - Keep as Midfielder/Back up RB
Jose Cordoba In - £3m LCB
Jefte - £500k
Ben Johnson In - Free
First Choice RCB in
Midfield
Tom Lawrence (30) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£1m)
Scott Wright (26) - LW/RW - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Alex Lowry (20) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Keep and New Contract
Rabbi Matondo (23) – LW/RW - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Ianis Hagi (25) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Todd Cantwell (26) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Kieran Dowell (26) - AM - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£2m)
Nico Raskin (23) - CM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Ross Mcausland (21) - RW - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Mohamed Diomande (22) - CM - contract ? - Keep
Bailey Rice - Promote to First Team/Loan Out
Connor Barron In - Free
David Watson In - £2m
Cortes in - Loan with option to buy
Sima In - Loan
Danny Armstrong In - £2m (Wright replacement)
Box to Box Midfielder In
Creative Number 6 Midfielder In
Winger/Striker Hybrid
Strikers
Sam Lammers (27) - ST - contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Cyriel Dessers (29) - ST contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Danilo (25) - ST - contact 6/2028 - Keep
Lawrence Shankland In - £2m
Kilechi Iheanacho In - Free
Transfer Money in - £29M
Transfer Money Out on players identified - £9.5M
Budget Remaining for positions identified - £19.5M (Starting CB, 2 x CM's, Winger/Striker & Back Up GK)
Get it done, Nils my man.
I don’t see us spending 7m plus also trying to sign Cortes given they play the same positionNot a chance we’re wasting £7M on sima!
This highlights just how poor we are in the transfer market.Lawrence is 31 in January, has 1 year left on his deal and is looking slow and sluggish after coming off a long term injury issue.
Dowell is famously injury prone.
They’ll be on wages no Championship club would touch.
Neither are going anywhere.
Lawrence risks becoming the epitome of what Clement is angry about - a player running the last year of his contract down with no value
He'll be moved on imho
I don’t see us spending 7m plus also trying to sign Cortes given they play the same position
I’d also say Sima has missed probably half the season so are we really sure we want to spend so much on a guy that’s been injured for half his spell here?
Things need to move fast this close season. Get players in as early as possible and get rid of the deadwood pronto. Probably won't be the case knowing us though.
SIGNED in Summer 2024:
Mohamed Diomande (22) CM - £4.5m (Nordsjælland)
GONE in Summer 2024
Borna Barisic – OOC
Kemar Roofe – OOC
Ryan Jack – OOC
John Lundstram – OOC
Leon Balogun – OOC
Jon McLaughlin – OOC
Abdallah Sima – end of loan - Brighton
Fabio Silva - end of loan - Wolves
Oscar Cortes - end of loan - Lens
OUT ON LOAN:
Jose Cifuentes - on loan at Cruzeiro with option 1/2025
RUMOURS:
IN – Oscar Cortes (20) LW/RW - Lens contract 6/2028 - rumoured new 1 year loan with option
IN – Jose Cordoba (22) CB – Levski Sofia contract 6/2025 - rumoured £3m permanent
IN – Jefte (20) LB – Fluminense contract 1/2027- rumoured £400k permanent
IN – Relebohile Mofokeng (20) LW – Orlando Pirates contract unknown
IN - Paddy McNair (29) CB - Free transfer
IN - Dion Sanderson (24) CB - Birmingham contract 6/2027
IN - Ben Johnson (24) RB - Free transfer
IN - Raphael Borges Rodrigues (20) LW - Macarthur FC contract 6/2025 with 1 year option
IN - Sol Sidibe (17) CM - Stoke contract 6/2025
OUT – James Tavernier – Rumoured interest from Al-Ettifaq
OUT - Connor Goldson - Rumoured interest from Al-Ettifaq
OUT - Jack Butland - Rumoured to be heading back to England
CONTRACT EXTENSIONS
I'd argue even those with two years to go are under threat, particularly if they are not contributing. Matondo and othersAbsolutely - Clement was very blunt about it
We need to think about the longer term too though. We could spend £2/3/4m on players in a window, loan them back to make them progress and then not need to recruit the following summer. Or not need to replace a player because we already have one who is out on loan. Tims did it with Christie/Scales for example. We should of done it with the likes of MayoThere is no way in hell we are spending any of our budget this season on players to loan them back out.
We are needing starting players in just about every position.
Lawrence risks becoming the epitome of what Clement is angry about - a player running the last year of his contract down with no value
He'll be moved on imho
Yes that should be happening in future but let's be honest we need a lot of starting players before we can think about future seasonsWe need to think about the longer term too though. We could spend £2/3/4m on players in a window, loan them back to make them progress and then not need to recruit the following summer. Or not need to replace a player because we already have one who is out on loan. Tims did it with Christie/Scales for example. We should of done it with the likes of Mayo
If we can get another club to take him, on his salary, then I think you are correct, even for a small fee, but that’s the issue, big wages plus a guy at his age with his recent injury record, moving him on may be easier said than doneLawrence risks becoming the epitome of what Clement is angry about - a player running the last year of his contract down with no value
He'll be moved on imho
Then they should probably seek help.Denis Undav keeps getting touted by people on here but he's been named in the Germany euro squad. Probably puts him out our reach if he plays.
I don’t see us spending 7m plus also trying to sign Cortes given they play the same position
I’d also say Sima has missed probably half the season so are we really sure we want to spend so much on a guy that’s been injured for half his spell here?
I agree but a lot of our good youngsters got poached before they hit our first team. Gilmour, Rory Wilson, Patterson to an extentI agree with much of what you say, but we’re not rolling in money either, so buying and loaning back isn’t a great use of our resources, and also they can sell these boys down to England or abroad.
We need to be more comfortable giving younger players breathing space to possibly start slowly and improve. We have a long, sad history of NOT developing players, and players leaving us and having decent careers at places they were allowed to get some experience.
i agree however a lot of our good youth prospects have been pinched just before they make the break through with us. Gilmour, Patterson(to an extent), McCrorie (GK - been in Scotland squad), Rory Wilson, Mebude x2. I would say that is more from our youth academy than the Tim’s have produced. Wilson and the Mebude brothers haven’t done much in their clubs 1st teams, I accept that, but our youth department is doing OK if you include them plus King, McCausland.I agree with much of what you say, but we’re not rolling in money either, so buying and loaning back isn’t a great use of our resources, and also they can sell these boys down to England or abroad.
We need to be more comfortable giving younger players breathing space to possibly start slowly and improve. We have a long, sad history of NOT developing players, and players leaving us and having decent careers at places they were allowed to get some experience.
First thing we need to do is bring in a new medical team.
Free transfers hopefully, but the status quo can't continue.
Actually Status Quo might manage our players' injuries better.
He was linked with us a while ago when he wasn't playing much at Brighton. People are probably remembering the name but not keeping up with the fact that he's had a great season in GermanyThen they should probably seek help.
"According to De Zerbi, “Deniz Undav is coming back,” as reported by The Athletic today. Undav, for his part, has said emphatically that he wishes to stay with VfB—ideally on a permanent basis. However, the Bundesliga team is unable to afford his €40 million buy option"
People just say anything on here.
Disagree. Armstrong is a decent player, I’d he had pace he’d be playing at a right good levelWe need better than Danny Armstrong - he's another Scott Wright - that said as a back up squad player his numbers in the SPL would be better than Wright.
Who’s paying £7m for Tav or £4m for Matondo? We couldn’t get shot of wright for 500k last summer how will get that now when he has a year left?Keepers:
Robby McCrorie (26) - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Kieran Wright (25) - contract 6/2025 - Keep
Jack Butland (31) - contract 6/2027 - KEEP
Buy new 2nd choice goalie and or promote a youth player
Defence
Adam Devine (21) – RB – contract 6/2025 - New Contact and Loan Out
Johnly Yfeko (21) - CB contract 6/2026 - Loan Out
James Tavernier (32) – RB- contract 6/2026 - Sell, only if Saudi interest is real (£6/7m)
Leon King (20) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 4th/5th choice
Connor Goldson (31) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
John Souttar (27) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Keep as 2nd choice/rotational RCB
Ben Davies (28) - CB - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£3m)
Ridvan Yilmaz (22) - LB - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Dujon Sterling (24) - Anywhere - contract 6/2027 - Keep as Midfielder/Back up RB
Jose Cordoba In - £3m LCB
Jefte - £500k
Ben Johnson In - Free
First Choice RCB in
Midfield
Tom Lawrence (30) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£1m)
Scott Wright (26) - LW/RW - contract 6/2025 - Sell (£500k)
Alex Lowry (20) - AM - contract 6/2025 - Keep and New Contract
Rabbi Matondo (23) – LW/RW - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Ianis Hagi (25) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Sell (£4m)
Todd Cantwell (26) - AM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Kieran Dowell (26) - AM - contract 6/2026 - Sell (£2m)
Nico Raskin (23) - CM – contract 6/2026 - Keep
Ross Mcausland (21) - RW - contract 6/2027 - Keep
Mohamed Diomande (22) - CM - contract ? - Keep
Bailey Rice - Promote to First Team/Loan Out
Connor Barron In - Free
David Watson In - £2m
Cortes in - Loan with option to buy
Sima In - Loan
Danny Armstrong In - £2m (Wright replacement)
Box to Box Midfielder In
Creative Number 6 Midfielder In
Winger/Striker Hybrid
Strikers
Sam Lammers (27) - ST - contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Cyriel Dessers (29) - ST contract 6/2027 - Sell (£4m)
Danilo (25) - ST - contact 6/2028 - Keep
Lawrence Shankland In - £2m
Kilechi Iheanacho In - Free
Transfer Money in - £29M
Transfer Money Out on players identified - £9.5M
Budget Remaining for positions identified - £19.5M (Starting CB, 2 x CM's, Winger/Striker & Back Up GK)
Get it done, Nils my man.
who's that then?Hysterical to watch people still comment about players like Armstrong not what we need after the summer transfer window last year. Lammers, Dessers shows you just because players have played in decent leagues or teams that they may not suit our league or team playing style. I’d much rather have signed Ferguson for £4/5m than Raskin/Cifu. Not as glamorous I know but knows what it’s like playing here and the pressure to win every game.
We need a right winger so I’m glad we are linked with one from our league. Successful rangers teams have always had a good base of Scottish/British players. Weir, Whittaker, Naismith, Laffery, Thomson, Boyd, Miller have all won leagues with us.
I’m not saying we should sign Scottish over quality but we do need a small group of players who know what this league and club is all about.
Barron, Watson, Miller should have been tracked at youth level and then when they have broken into their respective 1st teams. Why can’t we buy them and loan them back. Scottish teams have no money so we should be creative about recruiting these types of players. Along with your Diomande’s, Cortes and Sima deals. That, in my view, would lead to a successful squad
Rangers 2024
Butland
Tav …. ….. yilmaz
Diomande …….
…… …… Cortes
…….
Back up
McRorie
Goldson
Soutter
Dessers
Danillo
Mcausland
Sterling
Raskin
Cantwell
New lb
New lm
New rm (Armstrong)
New cm (Watson)
New cm (Barron)
New cf (shankland)
Gone in summer
Matondo
Davies
Lawrence
Dowell
Wright
Silva
Barasic
Sima
Lundstram
Jack
Roofe
King
Hagi
Lammers
Mcglaughlin
Presumably he means Danny Armstrong from Killie?who's that then?