Waddell - Magical money pot

sydneyger65

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#1
Another one questioning the money we spend.

Fantastic to see our sides do so well in Europe this week.
It’s the first time in 19 years all four have won in a single sitting.
Jim Jefferies, Martin O’Neill, Dick Advocaat and Ebbe Skovdahl were the managers in charge the last time it happened, to give you a bit of perspective on how long ago that was.
For us neutrals without a horse in the race? More power to them all.
It’s 11 years now since any of our teams outside of the Old Firm made it to the groups of the Europa League, when Aberdeen did it under Jimmy C.
That season - 2007/08 - Scottish teams played 39 games in European competition and finished fifth in the country co-efficient table, ahead of Italy, Portugal, France, Turkey, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece.
Kudos - and cash, obviously - to us.
What a boon it would be, for the whole game, if the Dons or Killie got there again to take some of the strain constantly held on the shoulders of the big two like twin Atlases.
Last season them both being in the groups, irrespective of Celtic missing out on the Champions League, was still the difference between our status being in the top 10 in the co-efficient rankings, compared to 23rd the previous year and 19th the year before that.
It’s a long road to get there, but that’s how significant it is.
For Rangers and Celtic fans? It’s like offering them a game of snap when there’s high stakes poker on the go.
Welcome to the phoney war.
Sure, they’ll make out they’re engaged in the process for a few weeks, that the prestige of achievement in the continent’s premier competitions matters to them.
It should do, as well as the cash. But let’s not kid ourselves that come August 3, anything else occupies the thoughts of either support or hierarchy except domestic superiority.

Celtic spending £7million on a centre-half? I said it a couple of weeks ago, impressive.
Rangers, eight men in, including, for them, a monumental £3.5m for Swedish defender Filip Helander?
These are statement signings - but what are they actually trying to say?
Like it or not, this season for both of them is a one-front war. If anyone actually believes this isn’t wheeling out the artillery to either win nine in a row or stop it, they’re dreaming.
Neil Lennon said on Friday he’s not getting involved in an arms race with Rangers. He doesn’t need to. He already has the best players. He’s in charge. He just has to stay there.
The pressure on him to do it is huge. Celtic fans can talk about Sevco and new clubs and no history but how big a humiliation would it be if a new club with no history denied them theirs?
Meanwhile Rangers fans can have their love affair with Stevie G, the great redeemer for them after half a decade of absolute mediocrity and worse.
Their board are backing him to the tune of millions from God knows what magical money pot but if Celtic get to nine this year and can see the hallowed 10 glowing on the horizon? Wholly unacceptable. He may not survive it. So while the rest of us yearn for a run of European engagement for Scottish clubs for the next five months at least, is it really what either of them need?
The difference domestically may well be one of them making the groups and one of them not. If they do, they’re either going Wednesday/Saturday or Thursday/Sunday half a dozen times.
Throw in two league cards at the end of October and the start of December and the quarters of the Betfred Cup, assuming they get there, and that’s nine midweeks out of 14 between the middle of September and Christmas.
If both make it, it becomes a test of endurance, resources, management. If only one of them does? The landscape changes immeasurably.
Neither of them will tank in Europe, they can’t afford to. The financial rewards of making the groups are a necessity for these clubs.
But both Lennon and Gerrard will be asking themselves what the ultimate cost of that success will be and whether they have the depth to cope with it.
They’ll also be acutely aware of what they’re actually being judged on.
All things being equal, if either of them put a run together that took them as far as, say, the quarter-finals of a European tournament, that would and should be their crowning glory in any given season.
Ask 50,000 at Ibrox or 60,000 at Celtic Park whether that would be worth trading the title for this year of all years and what do you think the answer would be?
 

barcode

Well-Known Member
#4
So its been 11 years since any team outside of old firm have made the group stages. If we really are the sevco new team that he 'innocently' references, then that first fact is incorrect. But we know that's not the case.

And magical pot of money? Its 3.5 million. How much of that is paid upfront this season? Is he saying that we have no money despite 46000 season tickets, domestic and UEFA prize monies, retail revenue, renewed sponsor deal, and no debt? Is he saying we shouldn't be buying anyone?
 

Ricksen

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#8
So its been 11 years since any team outside of old firm have made the group stages. If we really are the sevco new team that he 'innocently' references, then that first fact is incorrect. But we know that's not the case.

And magical pot of money? Its 3.5 million. How much of that is paid upfront this season? Is he saying that we have no money despite 46000 season tickets, domestic and UEFA prize monies, retail revenue, renewed sponsor deal, and no debt? Is he saying we shouldn't be buying anyone?
When 55 comes I wonder who’ll be first to suggest it’s the first time since 1985 a club outside the OF has won the top division.
 
#18
What a mean minded, accusatory diatribe, like a petty little child he manages to throw in the ‘sevco’, new club bullshit coupled with a sinister tone in terms of where the money is coming from.

How about this you chubby, talentless sack of shit, how about you highlight why ‘pacific shelf’ interpolating separate entity FC are managing to spend money. What about the victims of their decades of harbouring a vile paedophile ring which destroyed the young lives of many of its victims who are in the process of seeking redress through the courts. (Isn’t that rightfully their money that’s being squandered)

Surely spending that money to maintain their ill gotten advantage, another despicable conspiracy of lies and treachery which you cowardly, spine transplant requiring, excuses for journalists have effectively turned a blind eye to.

Twitching the curtains and casting aspersions based on your own well rounded prejudices is the measure of your journalistic career thus far. You’re hatred of Rangers FC insures that you will never perform your journalistic responsibilities in the manner of a proper enquiring journalist bent on getting to the truth no matter whether it’s a truth that doesn’t necessarily suit your agenda.
 
#22
You’d think a football journalist would be hyping up potentially the most exciting title race in a decade. Resurgent Rangers, Celtic under real threat, new managers at Killie and Hibs, Aberdeen signing a few. All good for Scottish football, no? Apparently not, let’s piss all over it and talk it down. How idiots like this hold down their jobs is utterly baffling.
 
#28
So its been 11 years since any team outside of old firm have made the group stages. If we really are the sevco new team that he 'innocently' references, then that first fact is incorrect. But we know that's not the case.

And magical pot of money? Its 3.5 million. How much of that is paid upfront this season? Is he saying that we have no money despite 46000 season tickets, domestic and UEFA prize monies, retail revenue, renewed sponsor deal, and no debt? Is he saying we shouldn't be buying anyone?
Exactly. Why let facts get in the way of a delusional story! They really are a special bunch.
 

sw26

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#29
Another dinosaur with a typewriter.

Not worth the energy frankly. I’ll settle for the satisfaction that our very existence apparently makes him absolutely furious, going by his weekly diatribes.
 

Bowery Boy

Well-Known Member
#30
Waddell is just a fat, angry, hateful, chimp. He likes to think he's some sort of intrepid, hard hitting journalist, when the reality is he just talks shite about football and has a readership of a couple of thousand.
 
#31
Yet another hatchet job from yet another Lawell lap-dog.

Magic money pot? You do know we’ve just sold 46,000 season tickets? At an average of say £400 that’s around £18.5m to start with. The Hummel deal is rumoured to be around £3m per year, and prize money from the Europa League last season will be £3m at least. Then there’s shirt and stadium sponsorship which could conservatively generate £2m per year. We’re now up to £26.5m before we start looking at replica kit sales and sundry income from this season coming. I’m pretty convinced our non-transfer outgoings and costs will not be anywhere near £26.5m so the fact we can spend £3.5m on a player shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone in possession of a working abacus or P4 maths ability. Which would seem to rule out Waddell.

The tired old “Newcomer rubbish”, which even the rabid, biased and bigoted SFA/SPFL have had to admit is wrong? Presented under the cover of reporting what celtic fans believe since he doesn’t have the balls to nail his colours to that mast. It’s as childish as it is predictable as it is inaccurate.

Celtic have the best players? Obviously subjective and his defence is that they won the league but a quick comparison makes that assertion look shaky at best; they don’t have the best keeper, central defenders, right back or striker. They also no longer have all the best midfielders with only McGregor and Forrest producing the goods.

As usual with SMSM, the truth is totally different to what is regurgitated to their increasingly small, bitter audience. Scotland is now a case study for what happens when a democratic society no longer has a free press.
 

HarryBosch

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#32
"Lennons has the best players and is in charge."
"Half a decade of mediocrity"
"a 'monumental' £3.5million"

Just another Scottish Journo-Blogger who cant help himself.

55 and their inability to be impartial will eat these gargantuan fudsnacks up!
 

Barrymoped

Well-Known Member
#34
"Lennons has the best players and is in charge."
"Half a decade of mediocrity"
"a 'monumental' £3.5million"

Just another Scottish Journo-Blogger who cant help himself.

55 and their inability to be impartial will eat these gargantuan fudsnacks up!
To be honest it was the childish Sevco reference which annoyed me more.

There wasn’t actually much wrong with the bits you highlighted. Sadly they won the league so currently have the best team.
Again, half a decade of mediocrity is the truth, in fact it’s been worse than that at times these last few years.
And right now, for us £3.5million is a huge amount.....and it’s great we are now spending this!
 

dookieno8

Well-Known Member
#36
It's not a silly question re the magical money pot. The point is, he doesn't have sound such a bitter prick about it.

As far as we're concerned. We don't have a loan/overdraft facility with a bank and we don't have millions on the balance sheet.

But, and this is a massive but, we have some of the wealthiest men in Britain (and beyond) backing us now, who will personally loan, without collateral money to the club in exchange for shares which devalue each time they're generated through dilution. They are happy to do this for the short/medium term at least.

I know this, you know this, the board have told everyone this.

The question is, why is no one listening? Why does no one want to listen, and through this ignorance why do we have to listen/read this shite continously.

Waddell ya ignorant prick - consider yerself telt.
 

HarryBosch

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#39
To be honest it was the childish Sevco reference which annoyed me more.

There wasn’t actually much wrong with the bits you highlighted. Sadly they won the league so currently have the best team.
Again, half a decade of mediocrity is the truth, in fact it’s been worse than that at times these last few years.
And right now, for us £3.5million is a huge amount.....and it’s great we are now spending this!
He wrote this as a dig at Rangers. Nothing surer. Just another in a long line of Rangers bad Celtic good pieces from him.

The words might be correct, but the tone of the article is what bothered me.

We may have had a period of mediocrity, but without outlining the reasons for that, of which there are many, it's just another flippant dig at Rangers.

His use of the word 'monumental' is so glaringly dripping with sarcasm its likely he shot his load over it.
 

Mexi

Well-Known Member
#40
The beggars have resurrected the old stories about us being skint, and predictably Waddell runs with it

The Sunday Mail - the print wing of the Green Brigade
 

jigster

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Official Ticketer
#41
Waddell oversees the demise of the Sunday mail sports team. He’s like the head stable boy for the pony express, shouting at the big metal wheeled monsters going by. Soon to be an irrelevant footnote, but will always be a grade a w@nker.

the printed press is only yesterdays news , cant think of the last time they broke any story of relevance
 

Kwodman

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#42
Cnuts like waddell have to shoehorn in "sevco new team mistery sinister money whats the source?? Of all this money how dare rangers spend anything " to every fucking article another in a long list of reasons i stopped buying papers a long time ago.
 
#45
It's not a silly question re the magical money pot. The point is, he doesn't have sound such a bitter prick about it.

As far as we're concerned. We don't have a loan/overdraft facility with a bank and we don't have millions on the balance sheet.

But, and this is a massive but, we have some of the wealthiest men in Britain (and beyond) backing us now, who will personally loan, without collateral money to the club in exchange for shares which devalue each time they're generated through dilution. They are happy to do this for the short/medium term at least.

I know this, you know this, the board have told everyone this.

The question is, why is no one listening? Why does no one want to listen, and through this ignorance why do we have to listen/read this shite continously.

Waddell ya ignorant prick - consider yerself telt.

I think @David Edgar summed it up best on twitter yesterday



 

jigster

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Official Ticketer
#47
Season 2007/08 where Rangers played 21 games in Europe and only lost 5 games 1 defeat to each of the following Barcelona, Vfb Stuttgart, Olympic Lyon, Werder Bremen and Zenith St Petersburg,1 game victories over stuttgart , olympic lyon and a creditable draw with barcelona and also which included 2 legged success's against Zeta, Red star Belgrade, Panathinaikos, Sporting Lisbon, And fiorentina......

Heights almost impossible to reach again Wallace would maybe like to write a piece on that and why it's nigh impossible to see why that won't happen again

 

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