We’ve sat back and watched them spend £20 odd mill

texascot said:
Our penny pinching will come back to haunt us. Instead of us bringing in 1 or 2 quality additions each year we are now seeing several players come towards end of their contracts all at the same time and we are looking at a big turnover and rebuild coming all at one time.
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The penny pinching comments are frustrating mate, last seasons losses meant we didn’t have a choice
 
Haggling with Hearts allegedly over 50k for a reliable competent Centre half in January has bitten us on the derrière. Along with a keeper who is more feared of crosses than Dracula.
 
The annoying thing is, it’s not like we needed massive investment in the squad last summer/January. Investment of around £5 million would have been sufficient to improve the team but this board stood still and now are paying the price for it. And £5 million should have been fine for January given we just got the Gerrard money/Patterson transfer money as well as millions from Europe. Instead of proper signings like skov Olsen and veerman we get diallo and bacuna, laughable really. It’s been shown by them across the city, you don’t need to spend millions to find good players.
 
Our fans spend excessive money on tickets and kits
We sold a back up player for 16 million
We have been miles ahead of schedule in Europe

I mean does a time ever come when people get to ask why we are skint.
 
Burgh-Ger said:
Grigo, today was beyond frustrating, there is not much between the two clubs.

I honestly don’t think we deserved to lose. We must invest this summer though, going in to next season with Kent, Aribo and Morelos running down their contracts is considerable problem
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I agree with you BG. A draw would have been a fair result to me, because both teams were lacking in quality.

Obviously if Kent, Aribo & Morelos don’t extend we really need to sell them. The Goldson precedent must be replaced.

My concern is that Joe’s form has fallen off of a cliff, and Alfredo’s injury, if longer term, has to cast some doubt in pursuers, so how much will we get ? 8 months ago we’d have expected 40m plus for them combined ?
 
Live Forever said:
And done next to nothing. Negligence from our board IMO.

If they can’t find the cash, they need to invite fresh investment.

Huge alarm bells were ringing. We had to spend some of the Gerrard/Patterson cash in Jan.
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Where do they find the cash?

The only way we could potentially have spent in January is if we could have spent some of the Villa and Everton money. The board certainly weren't going to throw their own money at the club after the years of losses they have agreed to underwrite. Fresh investment? Rich folk wanting to throw money at a Scottish football club - there's an abundance of those eh?
 
Do folk really not u sweat and the financial mess we were in and are just about to come out of? We didn’t have the money to keep the lights on FFS and needed soft loans. Yea we’ll see the money from Everton and Villa with the Euro Monet being paid at the end of the campaign but it costs a fortune to run our club.
Saying all that, the players we have were good enough to be in front and they are the ones responsible for throwing it away in games we should have won in 2022.
 
Live Forever said:
And done next to nothing. Negligence from our board IMO.

If they can’t find the cash, they need to invite fresh investment.

Huge alarm bells were ringing. We had to spend some of the Gerrard/Patterson cash in Jan.
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I'm no different than any other fan, wish we'd spend millions on new signings but we don't have a magic money tree.

Our board and investors are the ones who have kept the lights on these past 6 years.
 
barrheadbear said:
I'm no different than any other fan, wish we'd spend millions on new signings but we don't have a magic money tree.

Our board and investors are the ones who have kept the lights on these past 6 years.
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We’ve got to keep moving forward though.

Or accept being behind the other mob for the foreseeable.
 
Hindsight geniuses as usual. We were almost to a man, demanding that we kept all of our big players who won the title last season. A drop off from them this season and we should have sold them in the summer.

The idea that we can ‘speculate to accumulate’ is beyond ridiculous. You can’t speculate when you lose £23 million, you can survive. We can’t get any decent credit from banks so essentially what we are saying here is the board members who have had to finance our return to being remotely competitive, should be going down the back of the couch for another £10 million. Deluded doesn’t do it justice. We do need a shake up now but it’ll have to be based on player trading and hoping we can get a fair bit in to freshen things up.
 
TheMish said:
Our fans spend excessive money on tickets and kits
We sold a back up player for 16 million
We have been miles ahead of schedule in Europe

I mean does a time ever come when people get to ask why we are skint.
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New Edminston House?
 
Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
We didn't need to spend £20 million but we spent fcuk all, it's an absolute joke. If we can't afford to spend £5 million on one or two players then we're never going to progress. Even the bosmans signings are questionahle half the time. Apparently we've offer Fraisl a deal? Fucking dreadful goalie. Sakala has never kicked on. Souttar another who'll probably end injured long term. Guys like Veerman and Olsen ended up going for less than what we paid for Kent.
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Surely with the potential for the CL money a £4mil signing would have been worth the gamble?

This is the same board who front loaded us onto 55 and stopping the 10 but wouldnt risk it for what is a more worthwhile prize of CL revenue?

Oh if only and what might of been…
 
Live Forever said:
And done next to nothing. Negligence from our board IMO.

If they can’t find the cash, they need to invite fresh investment.

Huge alarm bells were ringing. We had to spend some of the Gerrard/Patterson cash in Jan.
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The books have to be balanced at some point. Not even going to debate our finances it’s been done to death.
 
Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
We didn't need to spend £20 million but we spent fcuk all, it's an absolute joke. If we can't afford to spend £5 million on one or two players then we're never going to progress. Even the bosmans signings are questionahle half the time. Apparently we've offer Fraisl a deal? Fucking dreadful goalie. Sakala has never kicked on. Souttar another who'll probably end injured long term. Guys like Veerman and Olsen ended up going for less than what we paid for Kent.
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ASO has played 10, scored 4 times with 6 assists in Belgium. League and cup.

Some of us knew a RW was our most important position to fill, it would have taken some of the heat off of Kent and given us a genuine threat down both sides had we gone after ASO, we fucked up and paid the price.

This league defeat could set us back years, with them already organised and looking at another £20m to spend in the summer. On the back of the CL cash.

We may have stopped 10iar, but we’re on our arse again now.
 
Anoldranger said:
The books have to be balanced at some point. Not even going to debate our finances it’s been done to death.
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We know that and the Patterson deal must have eased it a bit.

Had we strengthened where we needed it, we may well have been looking at a £40m carrot next season.

The other side is us handing it to the scum.
 
Kubala said:
If we're running at a loss, the Patterson and Gerrard money goes towards covering that and replacing Gerrard which wasn't free.
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The loss would have been cleared if we had won the league, everything the Tim's spent they will get back plus profit .
 
CaptainCourageous said:
We were 4 points ahead, we were 6 ahead, it’s now 6 behind plus a big goal difference.

A decent manager would have taken over and capitalised.
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The team that played Hibs in the cup this year is the current underbelly of the team that we have.
Yes we have a new manager ( and I'm less than convinced) but that weak underbelly that's been found out in every cup competition for years is still there.
A new manager doesn't fix that. He can't turn that weak underbelly into winners.
Last year was a perfect storm. An anomaly in the league.
 
BlueKeld said:
ASO has played 10, scored 4 times with 6 assists in Belgium. League and cup.

Some of us knew a RW was our most important position to fill, it would have taken some of the heat off of Kent and given us a genuine threat down both sides had we gone after ASO, we fucked up and paid the price.

This league defeat could set us back years, with them already organised and looking at another £20m to spend in the summer. On the back of the CL cash.

We may have stopped 10iar, but we’re on our arse again now.
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I believe we got offered Jota before the Tim's & we knocked it back we could've played him & Kent on opposite sides .
 
A1bertz said:
The team that played Hibs in the cup this year is the current underbelly of the team that we have.
Yes we have a new manager ( and I'm less than convinced) but that weak underbelly that's been found out in every cup competition for years is still there.
A new manager doesn't fix that. He can't turn that weak underbelly into winners.
Last year was a perfect storm. An anomaly in the league.
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The no fans joke almost sounds feasible now.
 
Coallie said:
The loss would have been cleared if we had won the league, everything the Tim's spent they will get back plus profit .
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They can go out and spend £20m in the summer now and we’re fucked again.

It’s seriously depressing looking at it now, we may just have handed them the next couple of titles on paper.
 
Live Forever said:
We’ve got to keep moving forward though.

Or accept being behind the other mob for the foreseeable.
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We can't move forward if we have no money , we need to start playing our youth & maybe win nothing for a few years at the moment it doesn't matter how good you are in the youth teams we are not giving the lads a chance we would rather bring in other youth team players like the Man Utd boy who has been a total failure.
 
BlueKeld said:
They can go out and spend £20m in the summer now and we’re fucked again.

It’s seriously depressing looking at it now, we may just have handed them the next couple of titles on paper.
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Unfortunately your probably right.
 
BlueKeld said:
We know that and the Patterson deal must have eased it a bit.

Had we strengthened where we needed it, we may well have been looking at a £40m carrot next season.

The other side is us handing it to the scum.
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We don’t know the details of the Patterson deal. If it was contingent on appearances, how much was that. Even if it was 16m that and the 4m for Gerard maybe brings us to break even for the season.

We can’t speculate to accumulate. That’s what has got us in the shite before. There are several big names who need punted in the summer, and on the evidence of today, will we shed any tears. Maybe punting a few will pay the compensation for Gio. We’re talking Hibs and Hearts players as a rebuild.

Our only thing now is to stop them winning another treble. The incredible would be to win the Europa League, and go straight into the CL. But that would probably mean beating Barcelona , which is unlikely on today’s showing.
 
We were told Gio had £ to spend if he wanted it. Did Gio not want it? Our loans are embarrassing… Ramsey half fit was no use, sands is baffling when we have 4 of the exact same midfielder already there and Diallo who is about 10 stone wet. Never going to cut it in the SPL.

We’ve not significantly improved the 11 in a year or 2. Not good enough for a club of our stature.
 
TBagg said:
Haggling with Hearts allegedly over 50k for a reliable competent Centre half in January has bitten us on the derrière. Along with a keeper who is more feared of crosses than Dracula.
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Not sure we would have haggled over £50k ffs
 
Live Forever said:
A player sale or 2 and a £40m CL jackpot would’ve took care of that.

Board are as culpable as the manager for me. We went stale and ended up regressing big time.
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People always say on here a player sale… when was the last time we got a serious bid for one of our players Patterson aside?
 
We can spend what we Don,t have .we,cvebeen leaking money for years.what you need to remember is that even with the team we have we should have gotten past malmo.also it was Gerrard who didn,t want certain players to be sold.
 
rfc_chris_rfc said:
The annoying thing is, it’s not like we needed massive investment in the squad last summer/January. Investment of around £5 million would have been sufficient to improve the team but this board stood still and now are paying the price for it. And £5 million should have been fine for January given we just got the Gerrard money/Patterson transfer money as well as millions from Europe. Instead of proper signings like skov Olsen and veerman we get diallo and bacuna, laughable really. It’s been shown by them across the city, you don’t need to spend millions to find good players.
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You contradict your own point there in saying you don’t need to spend millions to find good players when mentioning 2 players that we couldn’t afford.

The comparisons you make really do sun up where we are just now and something a lot of our support are not onboard with or ready to accept but they’re going to have to. For every veerman we want , we’re at best getting a bacuna
 
Live Forever said:
Boards job to find solutions is it not?

They gambled thinking we had enough to see off Malmo as well. That was the beginning of it
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The thing is, we absolutely did have enough to see off Malmo - the lack of readiness for that tie lies squarely with Gerrard & Co. and was indicative of the malaise that followed.
 
Blu_ultra said:
Who made bids for the players? Big bids would mean our best players leaving. The board are keeping the lights on - you do know we lost 23 million last year, don’t you?
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Brian Kennedy made the point that he couldn’t see why Rangers should generate less revenue than Celtic. Not so many years before, Rangers were generating far more.

Serious question - are they capitalising on transfer fees from past seasons? If not, where does the main difference lie? They hadn’t qualified for the Champions League group stages for the past three years.


I’m a bit concerned with how we are beginning to accept second-rate status.
 
I’ll not be renewing I’ve never hated such custodians since 2016.

They are a bunch of self entitled rats.

Please God give it al back to The King.
 
Always rebuild or re-enforce from a position of strength, otherwise you’re panicking.

Roberson and Wilson love to talk about vision, growth and building, I’ve seen none of that when it really counted these last 12 months and the knock on affect is going to be costly indeed.
 
Dado's Bandage said:
Hindsight geniuses as usual. We were almost to a man, demanding that we kept all of our big players who won the title last season. A drop off from them this season and we should have sold them in the summer.

The idea that we can ‘speculate to accumulate’ is beyond ridiculous. You can’t speculate when you lose £23 million, you can survive. We can’t get any decent credit from banks so essentially what we are saying here is the board members who have had to finance our return to being remotely competitive, should be going down the back of the couch for another £10 million. Deluded doesn’t do it justice. We do need a shake up now but it’ll have to be based on player trading and hoping we can get a fair bit in to freshen things up.
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We didn't need to spend £10m to improve the team as the yahoos proved in January they spent around £3m and massively improved the squad and first team.

Also why are we not attracting better sponsorship deals and investments considering we are reaching the later stages in Europe every season now?

Sorry but the we are skint excuse is just a cover for how badly we are being run by this board.
 
the_joker8 said:
We were told Gio had £ to spend if he wanted it. Did Gio not want it? Our loans are embarrassing… Ramsey half fit was no use, sands is baffling when we have 4 of the exact same midfielder already there and Diallo who is about 10 stone wet. Never going to cut it in the SPL.

We’ve not significantly improved the 11 in a year or 2. Not good enough for a club of our stature.
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Gerrards remark in May implied he was told he had money too… got %^*& all
 
pandager1 said:
They didn't net spend £20 million, sick of seeing that on this board. They brought in decent fees for Ajer, Édouard and Christie and reinvested the proceeds.
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yup they sold players for £33m so their net spend was -£10 million according to transfermarkt. our lack of transfer activity has been a shambles and that includes sales as well as purchases.

morelos will have to be sold this window or we'll lose him for nothing. that's a very scary prospect right now considering how much weaker we are without him.

ross wilson has fiddled while rome burned. the squad has turned stale and the value of our assets has probably plummeted. can't see anyone paying top dollar for kent for example after 2 league goals this season and when he has 12 months left on his contract.
 
The board have been gambling on CL football for the past 4 years, we had it this year and the players/management team screwed it. Our whole buisness model was to run at a loss and win the league to get into the CL where we would then make a profit. Not getting CL this season was always going to limit transfers when we haven’t sold anyone.
 
Live Forever said:
A player sale or 2 and a £40m CL jackpot would’ve took care of that.

Board are as culpable as the manager for me. We went stale and ended up regressing big time.
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That CL money wouldn't be available until the end of next season, we can't gamble on things we haven't achieved, I agree on player sales but we're now at a point where the majority are heading into their final year, and Goldson has ran his down, all our 'assets' are now diminishing in value due to their contracts, and form.
 
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