At some point we need to look at the common denominator in every failure from the Hibs final 2016 to yesterday! 6 managers and a few interim managers, over 100 players yet we can’t contemplate even giving it a go changing out Tav? How many more managers and tens of £m’s do we need to spend before we go “you know what, we could maybe try changing our right back”?
As much as I don’t think Tav has ever really been the biggest issue, we’ve been unable to win things consistently with him in the team.
That’s my thought, we need to throw the dice and see. Maybe I’m wrong and we are just as bad but if we’re not winning anyway then what do we have to lose? And just maybe his replacement gives confidence and belief to the whole back line and we start keeping clean sheets and not freezing in big games. And maybe taking penalties will lead to our number 9 (Dessers, Danilo or another) getting confidence that leads to more winning goals? And maybe not depending on our right back means the rest of the team lift their game and contribute in goals? I just don’t see what we have to lose at this stage!
Yep it’s 1 player, make it make sense.
Take Tav out of this team and the green ribbons would've been on the league trophy two months ago.
I think the captaincy is a bit of a red herring, and is often used when anyone criticises Tav - “a captain is not important in modern day football” etc. Stripping Tav of captaincy won’t make a single difference to our playing or fortunes. Replacing a right back with one who can defend, can bring confidence to the back line and empowering the rest of the team to score goals however could hugely improve our fortunes.
Because of the money all of the above has cost. Start with the problem areas first.
Would they? Would they have got the first goal within a minute that Tav was at fault for last month? Would we have bottled it with a few games to go when the pressure was on? Maybe they would have but I’d rather roll the dice and see - I’ll take the gamble of maybe losing the league 2 months ago as a league defeat is a league defeat at the end of the day. If we were narrowly winning the league I’d understand the hesitancy. But we aren’t. The scum have just won 8 out of 9 titles since he’s been at the club. 5 of them were treble winning seasons. I struggle to think of how we would have been any worse without him!
If Mc Gregor was treated by the referee the way he should be treated I'm convinced that he'd start crying and his head would go down.
Brilliant, we can all celebrate the Tav top goal scorer award again while the scum across the city celebrate another league title. I’ll sacrifice the cup final this month too as long as captain fantastic wins the club player of the year award too.
That's why we desperately need players in the team that can score goals next season and not rely on a right back who can't defend his legs are gone and continues to cause problems by getting caught out of position in every game.
You are ignoring his goals. You know, the thing that wins games.
We need a winning mentality we have a team of championship also rans.
That post was from February 2023!
You are ignoring his goals. You know, the thing that wins games.
Cool - good luck replacing a whole team with no money.
However in the real world, we can’t replace everyone. That’s not how it works.
We absolutely need to spend more wisely but why is one player irreplaceable? I’m absolutely sick of celebrating mediocrity. Yes he has scored so many goals but he has also been a maintstay in a team that has seen the hoard over the city win NINETEEN trophies (soon to be 20) to our 3. We’ve changed everything else in the team but not him? We have a replacement already there, he’s called Sterling. And his goals? Well maybe Dessers has a better penalty conversion than he does. And maybe a different set piece taker leads to more goals overall? Or do we keep changing everyone around him from top to bottom and just ignore his mistakes, lack of bottle, lack of belief and hope for the best when they take another 19 trophies?
We don’t need to spend money to replace him. Sterling is already there and that is his natural position. Spend the money on a replacement for Goldson, a replacement for Lundstram and a replacement for Kent/Cantwell and we’re instantly in a better position.
Or play Sterling in midfield and we don’t need to replace Lundstrum.
I don’t agree. We will be posting that we used a limited budget to sign too many players and went for quantity over quality again. And fell short.
Folk are ignoring goals the thing we haven’t done enough all season is scoring but everyone wants rid of Tav.
If Sterling is starting in midfield in front of a defence of Tav, Goldson and Souttar then in a years time we will be looking forward to another rebuild under a new manager while the scum romp away in the league, telling ourselves “this time it will be different, the *insert new managers name here* is a proper manager and will have the beating of them next season”.
Lost ball in initial build up to first goal, 2nd goal came from a cross down his side.
But he’s 33 and his performance levels defensively are dropping pretty rapidly year on year. Do we just keep persevering for another season (or two) because we also need a whole new spine of the team and need to prioritise that?
Yesterday’s defeat was all on Lundstram. Both goals and a sending off, he put in the worst display I’ve ever seen by a Rangers player in an old firm game. He should have been marched out the door yesterday and I never want to see him in a Rangers jersey again. But that doesn’t change the overall fact that Tav should also be out the door this summer (along with about another dozen players).
Where did I say that I wanted Goldson and Souttar to stay.
Keep hiring diddy managers we’ll get the same results.
Hasn't won us many trophies though. You'll find that most teams who win a lot of trophies around Europe don't rely on their right back scoring them goals. They set their team up with good players in creative positions who are expected to do that. That rests more with the recruitment team I suppose but it doesn't excuse the fact that Tav costs us in big games and clearly can't influence games against Celtic as a captain when he isn't scoring.
How do we pay for replacing a dozen players?
I agree with you. However the whole new spine of a team costs money.
