Surely the ideal scenario is we win and Lech win as that gains us top spot?Ideal scenario would be a win for us and a draw in Portugal.
Then we’d just need a pt in Poland to clinch the top spot.
Sorry mate I missed a bit - fixed it now!To be fair.
If we choke and lose to Liege they have already qualified (likely) Benfica in the last match.
Thread is incorrect. If you add we dont lose to the second one its alright.
Yes its where we should be at. Not happy Liege werent knocked out tonight wouldve been much much easier if they hadnt got that winner.It’s about winning the group now.
Nah. What if it’s a draw in Benfica and we lose to Liege that would leave Benfica on 9 and us on 8, Liege on 6 and Poznań on 4 going into the final games. Liege then beat Benfica and we lose to Poznań and we are out.a) we beat Liege
OR
b) we draw and Poznan DON'T beat Benfica in Lisbon
Just to clear up any confusion.
If we win both our last two games we top the group. Simples.It’s about winning the group now.
Everyone seems happy that liege won tonight BUT if the worst happens next week and we lose to liege , and Poznań as expected lose in Benfica , had tonight’s game ended a draw between liege and Poznań we would still go through next week . Now it’s more up in the aira) we beat Liege
OR
b) we draw and Poznan DON'T beat Benfica in Lisbon
Just to clear up any confusion.
At last someone sees it for what it is.I'm more worried about winning the group TBF. For either of the bottom 2 to qualify, they need to beat us and Benfica, and still might not qualify, based on another result. Not impossible, but extremely unlikely
If benfica have already qualified then we have lech who are already out in that scenario.To be fair.
If we choke and lose to Liege they have already qualified (likely) Benfica in the last match.
Thread is incorrect. If you add we dont lose to Liege the second one its alright.
OP doesn't say we're through if we lose mate. Those are the 2 scenarios that take us through on the night. If Liege beat us all bets are indeed off!Nah. What if it’s a draw in Benfica and we lose to Liege that would leave Benfica on 9 and us on 8, Liege on 6 and Poznań on 4 going into the final games. Liege then beat Benfica and we lose to Poznań and we are out.
Remember if we'd won the group last year we'd have been papped out by Leverkusen a round earlier.It’s about winning the group now.
Oops.OP doesn't say we're through if we lose mate. Those are the 2 scenarios that take us through on the night. If Liege beat us all bets are indeed off!
Wrong , we can go out even if we get a point next week. Very Unlikely though.To not qualify we need to lose both games and have either Poznan or Liege beat us and Benfica.
Not exactly , the 8 teams dropping out of the champions league 4 get seeded and the 4 aren’t seeded. Winners of the Europa league group stages are seeded , runners up aren’t. So still a chance we could get one if we win the group though unlikely 1 in 4 odds if my maths are right.What does winning the group mean for the last 32? Does the winner avoid CL drop outs?
I will be looking to get in early with our oddsIs anybody expecting us to lose at home to liege ? Pointless thread imo. I suspect the bookies will have us odds on.
YesIs it true that if we end on the same points as Benfica we top the group based on our head to head with them?
Yes.Is it true that if we end on the same points as Benfica we top the group based on our head to head with them?
Yes hence the reason we are top just now.Is it true that if we end on the same points as Benfica we top the group based on our head to head with them?
We will be through when we win.a) we beat Liege
OR
b) we draw and Poznan DON'T beat Benfica in Lisbon
Just to clear up any confusion.
Personally, as soon as we beat Lech to get 6/6 I felt the job was done.a) we beat Liege
OR
b) we draw and Poznan DON'T beat Benfica in Lisbon
Just to clear up any confusion.
Indeed you’re correctSurely the ideal scenario is we win and Lech win as that gains us top spot?
Thread's purely about what needs to happen for us to qualify next week as there's been a bit of confusion - not helped by the arsehole Rob McLean getting it wrong repeatedly in commentary.Is anybody expecting us to lose at home to liege ? Pointless thread imo. I suspect the bookies will have us odds on.
Surely a win for us and a Benfica defeat, no?Ideal scenario would be a win for us and a draw in Portugal.
Then we’d just need a pt in Poland to clinch the top spot.
Twice we have been in a position of qualifying and blew it, we are not through on ifs and buts we have to learn to hold on to leads in games.a) we beat Liege
OR
b) we draw and Poznan DON'T beat Benfica in Lisbon
Just to clear up any confusion.
Lets hope soIdeal scenario would be a win for us and a draw in Portugal.
Then we’d just need a pt in Poland to clinch the top spot.
Quite a negative way to look at it. We've not "blew" anything, we've got ourselves into a really good position.Twice we have been in a position of qualifying and blew it, we are not through on ifs and buts we have to learn to hold on to leads in games.
Twice we have been in a position of qualifying and blew it, we are not through on ifs and buts we have to learn to hold on to leads in games.
100% sure we will win next week