Originalmacc
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Hope the”nothing will ever happen”brigade have sat up in their seats this week.amazing work as always bn and the team
Hopefully foreign journalists and media to expose this scandal.Twitter followers have gone through the roof as well and not just from Joe Public
100% Alex.
I’d like to add that as horrific as the Celtic case is, the bigger issue is with the Catholic Church, and until it is addressed head on, sadly it will continue.
The church need to ask themselves why a sizeable portion of priests and those affiliated with their religion carry out these deeds. It is not bad luck, flawed genes, or even coincidence.
IMO they need to address both homosexuality and the natural inbuilt human desire to have sexual relations. Do gay priests deviate towards younger boys as they will easier to manipulate, threaten and silence? Is it a cycle in some cases where a minority of those abused go on to be abusers themselves? Do the teachings of the religion centre too heavily around control, sin, guilt and punishment?
I don’t know the questions that should be asked, never mind the answers, but rather than continuous cover ups that just lead onto more abuse, they should look deep within, ask questions, and look to change where necessary. Any religious doctrine that can, in part, lead to kids being abused is just plain evil. The sooner they adapt the better, as even then it would take a few generations to put right. Wherever in the world there are large scale Catholic populations, disproportionate child abuse occurs. It is a fact.
For any lurkers affiliated to said church, and Celtic for that matter, wake the f*ck up. Your silence and inaction is part of the problem.
Anyone with nothing to hide would be all over that legally.
The man who knew.
Well put Snakehips , the more I think about it the more I wonder why we all became Protestants . I know our predecessors protested against the teachings of the church of Rome etc., but I often wonder was there much more going on in the RC religion that I never gave much thought about re garding child abuse . We have read many stories about all kinds of abuse in Ireland regarding unmarried mothers , Magdelene laundries , alter boys being interfered with by priests etc., and since this vile football club started in 1888 it has brought nothing but scandal and hurt to so many youngsters that wonder WHY can so many thousands support this team who covered up so much misery to young players ? They are beyond belief and I am so glad to have been brought up as a Protestant who played football for my BB team , attended PT classes and camping holidays without the worry of any weirdo's trying the sex abuse that all those young players suffered at the hands of perverts at CFC . Time for exposure and punishment to those who committed the crimes to pay price and for those who covered it up and did nothing to stop it .100% Alex.
I’d like to add that as horrific as the Celtic case is, the bigger issue is with the Catholic Church, and until it is addressed head on, sadly it will continue.
The church need to ask themselves why a sizeable portion of priests and those affiliated with their religion carry out these deeds. It is not bad luck, flawed genes, or even coincidence.
IMO they need to address both homosexuality and the natural inbuilt human desire to have sexual relations. Do gay priests deviate towards younger boys as they will easier to manipulate, threaten and silence? Is it a cycle in some cases where a minority of those abused go on to be abusers themselves? Do the teachings of the religion centre too heavily around control, sin, guilt and punishment?
I don’t know the questions that should be asked, never mind the answers, but rather than continuous cover ups that just lead onto more abuse, they should look deep within, ask questions, and look to change where necessary. Any religious doctrine that can, in part, lead to kids being abused is just plain evil. The sooner they adapt the better, as even then it would take a few generations to put right. Wherever in the world there are large scale Catholic populations, disproportionate child abuse occurs. It is a fact.
For any lurkers affiliated to said church, and Celtic for that matter, wake the f*ck up. Your silence and inaction is part of the problem.
Bob Crilly also worked at the Trophy Centre
I wonder what other Celtic Boys Club players or officials worked thereBob Crilly also worked at the Trophy Centre
It was his father was it not?Bob Crilly also worked at the Trophy Centre
Was the father a defence witness at the first trialIt was his father was it not?
Maybe in these times of the internet there will be a lot more people seeing the evidence with their own eyes and the hacks won’t be able to cover it up, take note Hugh Keevins!The fhilth are not going take any responsibility for this,Constantly falling back on the separate entity defense when challenged even when the evidence is overwhelming,The whole sordid story should have been exposed by the Scottish media a long time ago,it’s a national scandal that just adds to the suffering to the victims.
Tommy Burns was linked to nearly every paedophile at Celtic
That is abysmal, how many youngsters lapped into depression or even took their own lives at instances such as this. The whole horror of this is far beyond what we could have imagined yet the compliant to child abuse media won't go near it. Just how much power does the Catholic Church and celtic have not just in Scotland but the world as a whole. To say I am Disgusted doesn't even come close
The problem stems from priests not being able to marry or have a sexual relationship with another person. This is due to the Catholic Church wanting to protect its riches and not have to pay proceeds toward a priests family should accident, injury or death during service occur. Due to that they have provided a place where a deviant or hypocrite toward what they are, can take up a position of prominence and power over your typical RC. What other place is there where a sexual predator is served up automatic trust, respect, standing and a conveyor belt of children to satisfy whichever need their deviant mind has! Look at Winning for example not a peado - but was a hidden homosexual that would often berate other homosexuals through sermon, doctrine or whatever other means. A guy like that obviously couldn’t deal with the stigma of what he was and instead decided to take up a powerful position over others, while acting out his needs behind closed doors. Hypocrite.100% Alex.
I’d like to add that as horrific as the Celtic case is, the bigger issue is with the Catholic Church, and until it is addressed head on, sadly it will continue.
The church need to ask themselves why a sizeable portion of priests and those affiliated with their religion carry out these deeds. It is not bad luck, flawed genes, or even coincidence.
IMO they need to address both homosexuality and the natural inbuilt human desire to have sexual relations. Do gay priests deviate towards younger boys as they will easier to manipulate, threaten and silence? Is it a cycle in some cases where a minority of those abused go on to be abusers themselves? Do the teachings of the religion centre too heavily around control, sin, guilt and punishment?
I don’t know the questions that should be asked, never mind the answers, but rather than continuous cover ups that just lead onto more abuse, they should look deep within, ask questions, and look to change where necessary. Any religious doctrine that can, in part, lead to kids being abused is just plain evil. The sooner they adapt the better, as even then it would take a few generations to put right. Wherever in the world there are large scale Catholic populations, disproportionate child abuse occurs. It is a fact.
For any lurkers affiliated to said church, and Celtic for that matter, wake the f*ck up. Your silence and inaction is part of the problem.
110% mate i cannot understand it Scotland is like North Korea Russia totally run like a dictatorship something is not right seriouslyThat is abysmal, how many youngsters lapped into depression or even took their own lives at instances such as this. The whole horror of this is far beyond what we could have imagined yet the compliant to child abuse media won't go near it. Just how much power does the Catholic Church and celtic have not just in Scotland but the world as a whole. To say I am Disgusted doesn't even come close
Hopefully foreign journalists and media to expose this scandal.
perhaps the publicity would put them in the 'Spotlight' they want this to be low key / go away not be open to further discussion.Anyone with nothing to hide would be all over that legally.
Gordon Woods has pointed it out himself plenty of times.
If what is being said is wrong, why don't celtc sue him?
You are not wrong. See Scotlands forgotten suffering on you tube…Well put Snakehips , the more I think about it the more I wonder why we all became Protestants . I know our predecessors protested against the teachings of the church of Rome etc., but I often wonder was there much more going on in the RC religion that I never gave much thought about re garding child abuse . We have read many stories about all kinds of abuse in Ireland regarding unmarried mothers , Magdelene laundries , alter boys being interfered with by priests etc., and since this vile football club started in 1888 it has brought nothing but scandal and hurt to so many youngsters that wonder WHY can so many thousands support this team who covered up so much misery to young players ? They are beyond belief and I am so glad to have been brought up as a Protestant who played football for my BB team , attended PT classes and camping holidays without the worry of any weirdo's trying the sex abuse that all those young players suffered at the hands of perverts at CFC . Time for exposure and punishment to those who committed the crimes to pay price and for those who covered it up and did nothing to stop it .
in fairness to one the express has been trying to get things out there, they have given Gordon some headlines unlike the other ragsIt has to be as Scottish "journalists" don't want to know.
this so called church has been getting investigated from all over the world but always seem to deflect just like that club, its like they are untouchable, but someday soon I hope they are brought to justice, where priests have a abusing and the dairy goes on them they get shifted from one location to another with their higher power saying they are on sick leave it is pretty disgusting, but for governments not to intervene and take action and investigate the mind bogglesWhen in the name of God is this going to blow up honestly how much more proof do the media and Government in Scotland need . I am ashamed of my Country of birth i live in Australia now cannot believe how much power the Catholic Church has . Make no mistake when the damn breaks its not only that Club thats finished its that Church as well please wake up Scotland and expose them
Agree 100%, especially the last paragraph.The problem stems from priests not being able to marry or have a sexual relationship with another person. This is due to the Catholic Church wanting to protect its riches and not have to pay proceeds toward a priests family should accident, injury or death during service occur. Due to that they have provided a place where a deviant or hypocrite toward what they are, can take up a position of prominence and power over your typical RC. What other place is there where a sexual predator is served up automatic trust, respect, standing and a conveyor belt of children to satisfy whichever need their deviant mind has! Look at Winning for example not a peado - but was a hidden homosexual that would often berate other homosexuals through sermon, doctrine or whatever other means. A guy like that obviously couldn’t deal with the stigma of what he was and instead decided to take up a powerful position over others, while acting out his needs behind closed doors. Hypocrite.
There’s also the other glaring part where RC’s will confess their deepest abs darkest secrets to a man that maintains he speaks to a god. Yes, their speaking will absolve theirs souls as they seem to believe but it also hands off extreme power to these men. This puts every RC in their place where whatever has been said can be used as leverage against them.
I’m not into religion at all, I think humanity would do well without it, but the RC cult is pretty powerful and is quite simply true evil.
Andy Ritchie said in his book that Tommy Burns wanted to rid the boys club of evil (or something like that) when he brought Ritchie back to coach the boys club.
I believe they said that it would take too long to investigate religion and football so they limited the scope of the investigation. That may be the case bit is not an excuse for not investigating football clubs and religion in separate enquiries. When something is so obviously wrong, the government can't say we won't investigate as we don't have time.What is the SNP justification for leaving football and religion out of their so called ‘investigation’ ?
Crilly was a loyal supporter of p1 and p2 and was around the cult during both of their tenures .Says a lot about this man that of any of the 5 convicted peadophiles he knew them all .Bob Crilly also worked at the Trophy Centre
And also mentioned in the same article as another suspected predator .Crilly was a loyal supporter of p1 and p2 and was around the cult during both of their tenures .Says a lot about this man that of any of the 5 convicted peadophiles he knew them all .
In a nutshell.“bairns before bombs”…but religion, football clubs, peados before bairns. But votes before everything else.
I believe they said that it would take too long to investigate religion and football so they limited the scope of the investigation. That may be the case bit is not an excuse for not investigating football clubs and religion in separate enquiries. When something is so obviously wrong, the government can't say we won't investigate as we don't have time.
Precisely. Would they not pursue charges against a serial killer because it would take too long to investigate. What sort of despicable excuse is that?!Too long to investigate religion and football clubs? What a pathetic excuse to cover up their own (no doubt) political support base.
Precisely. Would they not pursue charges against a serial killer because it would take too long to investigate. What sort of despicable excuse is that?!
And Stein knew in 1974
It’s Westminster’s fault. They should have caught him.We suspect the killer has been active in Leeds, Nottingham, Manchester, Liverpool and Birmingham. But it would take to long to investigate so going to pin our hopes in asking folks in the Bury area of Manchester only.
Unbelievable Pal I've had the same problem with them they would rather say "Points Scoring " than agree to have an independent enquiryCan i also say that the way to get this in the public domain is to never be afraid to mention their despicable acts and that is not to diminish the survivors or point score but i tell anyone when football is discussed in especially a work situation where i have in the main celtic fans . In fact the point scoring is usually them starting with there sevco shite and they clam up when i remind them of their history and not the 1967 kind but the over 50 years of cover ups . If my child was abused at any football club you couldnt stop me from pursuing the bastards .Sorry an emotive subject and i commend the Spotlight team and BN94 and the rest for there stedfast resolve and fortitude for their pursuit of justice for the survivors .
Scotland is a land of embarrassment. I find it unbelievable. I could not see this cover-up happening anywhere else.When in the name of God is this going to blow up honestly how much more proof do the media and Government in Scotland need . I am ashamed of my Country of birth i live in Australia now cannot believe how much power the Catholic Church has . Make no mistake when the damn breaks its not only that Club thats finished its that Church as well please wake up Scotland and expose them
Sturgeon or whoever set up the inquiry in to csa should have made it across the board in to what they have investigated but also football clubs .boys clubs and religion . These inquiries take an age to come to a conclusion so doing it piecemeal as they have done just leaves more questions than answers imo.Unbelievable Pal I've had the same problem with them they would rather say "Points Scoring " than agree to have an independent enquiry
Disgusting creature and to think these people are in powerful position to make decisions