If only David Murray had completed the corners of the Govan Stand properly

[WDYGH]

Am I the only one that loves the Stadium?
I would like to see more Coperate boxes and better seats, I would also like to see the disabled section moved to the back of the enclosure and enshrined in glass ( I actually put that idea forward when they were looking at ideas for the RFF money they built the Stand at theTraning Ground )

You are right to love the stadium but as the biggest club in the country we should have the biggest stadium.

No ifs, buts or maybes.

 

[Laudrup1]

How much do you reckon to fill in the corners? Ballpark

There's far too many points to consider to be very accurate at all.

However, for comparison, Liverpool added 7500 seats to their main stand with huge renovation works on their roof and it cost them £100m.

When Man U (nearly a decade a go) put their additional corner sections in the top tiers, they were £50m+ for a similar level of seats.

Either way, it's money that we don't have unless someone is putting a sponsorship on to cover it and the pay back is over years and years.

You've also got to consider where we play when the works getting done as you're losing a big chunk of the stadium while the works are ongoing.

 

[BroomloanWATP]

You've also got to consider where we play when the works getting done as you're losing a big chunk of the stadium while the works are ongoing.

I am sure our friends at the SFA will let us use Hampden at a very reasonable rate

 

[PunkScott]

I was at Sunderland last week and you can tell it's a "new" stadium.

Anything that gets built on and added to is going to cause issues. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

[johanfyfe]

Wasn’t there two other proposals put forward recently one of which was a second level put above each corner. It didn’t look that clever but it was a cheap option which didn’t involve any major engineering. The second option put forward was a full seated corner which will never happen due to costs. I think the cheap option added approximately 4 or 5 thousand. Don’t know how to post images I’m afraid but hopefully someone else will remember these proposals.

 

[Alfie shhh!]

Imagine this view opposite the Main stand.

 

[RobGer]

I'd have loved it if Murray had done that.

Would have been the 2nd best thing he had done in his time with us, only behind bringing Souness to the club...

DM didn't bring Souness to Ibrox it was David Holmes and Lawrence Malborough

 

[EndOfDays]

I saw someone mention we could potentially have something similar to Dortmund in the corner.

 

[HeyBert]

I saw someone mention we could potentially have something similar to Dortmund in the corner.

Horrible that

 

[SoGo]

Am I the only one that that gets bored when this question keeps getting rehashed and asked again every few months?

The Stadium is beautiful as it is and until we have a long run of success and successfully execute on our strategic plan (i.e. continue to bring money in via commercial activities, player sales and regular entry to the CL), then it will stay the way it is.

 

[Cooper Forever]

You don't know how they get a safety certificate from the GCC?

Oh surely your not suggesting anything underhand, I am really shocked at that

 

[Thor]

SDM is blamed for Covid on here no doubt

David Murray is a scum bag

 

[JCB64]

FFS. Imagine "the bouncy" in that.

Hideous.

Less is better no matter what the Mrs says.

 

[Thor]

DM didn't bring Souness to Ibrox it was David Holmes and Lawrence Malborough

This! A lot of people need a history lesson. A lot of the good work was already in place before that scumbag came in and nearly destroyed the club. During the 90’s especially during 9 in a row we ran at a profit with player trading and champions league money which is another thing people fail to realise.

 

[Forfar_Bear]

I saw someone mention we could potentially have something similar to Dortmund in the corner.

Note how they filled in the corners

 

[bluetonic]

I would love it if the corners were filled in, the current corners and screens look horrible .
It can be done but I guess all of our money is going into the New Edminston House project.

 

[Murphy]

The weight would cause it to collapse into a black hole

Would pay for itself if we sold Rangers' binocolears.

 

[TW1988]

David Murray is a scum bag

History rarely looks favourably on people, as recent events with snowflakery has shown.

Without SDM, 9iaR wouldnt have happened, the success/failure of his tenure is up to each person to have their own thoughts on it, but we wouldnt have the stadium as is, the training ground, the Gascoignes, Laudrups etc without his stewardship - regardless of how he drove the ship toward a black hole then bailed in an escape pod - thats just the plain simple facts behind it.

 

[RFC_Champions]

How much do we reckon it would roughly take to fix the corners and fill them with seats anyone know ?

do you really expect someone on here to be able to provide an accurate price? Worse than the OP ffs

£18,721,690.55

Material prices are on the rise so offer is only valid for 5 working days

 

[spotlight]

Murray - took over Rangers in a great state. Left it in a complete shambles.
He is the worst thing that ever happened to Rangers FC.

 

[Clicker]

Have to agree. The corners at the main stand are not great either. A bad use of space there. Open gaps are not impressive.

All in all, the whole 'corner' situation at the stadium is one that disappoints.

How could you join the Main Stand to the Copland and Broomloan? The Main Stand goes away past the bye lines and the front rows of the end stands, because it was built when the ground was oval shaped.

 

[Bri RTID]

Am I the only one that loves the Stadium?
I would like to see more Coperate boxes and better seats, I would also like to see the disabled section moved to the back of the enclosure and enshrined in glass ( I actually put that idea forward when they were looking at ideas for the RFF money they built the Stand at theTraning Ground )

to take more away tickets off the fans aye

 

[trueblue77]

History rarely looks favourably on people, as recent events with snowflakery has shown.

Without SDM, 9iaR wouldnt have happened, the success/failure of his tenure is up to each person to have their own thoughts on it, but we wouldnt have the stadium as is, the training ground, the Gascoignes, Laudrups etc without his stewardship - regardless of how he drove the ship toward a black hole then bailed in an escape pod - thats just the plain simple facts behind it.

Aye, nothing wrong with a cheeky liquidation now and again and the odd decade playing in the wilderness.

 

[wabmcfarlane]

How about 3 tiers on the other stands?

lets do the Govan first, change how the roof is supported after the extra tier is added (clubdeck2)
then we follow it up by doing both ends. by the time we are done the the roof is no longer supported by the side of the stands and we can fill in the corners. simples!

 

[TW1988]

Aye, nothing wrong with a cheeky liquidation now and again and the odd decade playing in the wilderness.

Didnt say that, but remove Murray, you remove his history and legacy, and UEFA cup final, Leeds games, 9iaR etc is part of that, cant have one without the other.

 

[trueblue77]

Didnt say that, but remove Murray, you remove his history and legacy, and UEFA cup final, Leeds games, 9iaR etc is part of that, cant have one without the other.

We're in a position now where it's maybe easier for you to think that way.

 

[AldoKP]

The capacity of the stadium is just about right at present i would be looking at the catering side of things as whoever caters for us is simply not good enough.A lukewarm bovril last night with a tasteless scotch pie.

Five pound twenty,both were disgusting and i'll certainly ( from here on in ) eat outside.

The other main issue is the ticket office and the function of the disabilty units.

A club the size of Rangers has a lot of questions which needs answered but so many employees hide.

The capacity is woefully inadequate.
Rangers are quickly becoming a club with the stature of a English mid PL team.
We’ve gone from having the biggest club ground in Britain (and top 3 in Europe) to soon to be 11th or 12th in Britain alone.
With that the standing and appeal of the club deteriorate.
The aura of the club diminishes.
Ground capacity should be what we can easily fill for our big games
70-80,000
Who cares if there is 48,000 against St Mirren if you’ve got 75,000 against Aberdeen in a league decider or a Champions League game
Our current board have no vision and no initiative

 

[David Edgar]

History rarely looks favourably on people, as recent events with snowflakery has shown.

Without SDM, 9iaR wouldnt have happened, the success/failure of his tenure is up to each person to have their own thoughts on it, but we wouldnt have the stadium as is, the training ground, the Gascoignes, Laudrups etc without his stewardship - regardless of how he drove the ship toward a black hole then bailed in an escape pod - thats just the plain simple facts behind it.

The Captain of the Titanic had a pretty flawless record till that Iceberg.

 

[WalterSkinner]

Ibrox doesn’t need a bigger capacity, there is zero struggle to get tickets for home games, outwidth the old firm games obviously

 

[WalterSkinner]

The surrounding area of Ibrox desperately needs sorted though. It is absolutely shameful looking.

 

[Sir Know it All]

Didnt say that, but remove Murray, you remove his history and legacy, and UEFA cup final, Leeds games, 9iaR etc is part of that, cant have one without the other.

The history and legacy of Murray is Annan Athletic and Berwick Rangers games TBH THOSE are the things that weren't the norm in the history of Rangers rather than the things you make mention of

 

[AldoKP]

A lot of ignorance re funding for increasing capacity on here.
It’s basically done via a mortgage scheme similar to a house extension
That’s how most clubs pay for stadium upgrades
Say you need to borrow £40 million to increase capacity by 15,000
You do this over a fixed term.
15,000 seats would increase revenue by around £6million per year (low estimate at £20 a seat accommodation of no sales etc)
£2million goes towards the borrowing & interest for 25 years
£4 million extra profit for the club
And you’re all paid off

 

[RayStantzLoyal]

Think these were the original designs

Then more modern renders

The modern renders look brilliant. While in the SPFL & derisory income from the Sponsors, League Win & Cups I struggle to think how we could afford to do this.
Last chat was about adding more as they were confident regarding the Water levels and the Clyde. Previously I think it was a no goer but it was raised over the last couple years again.
Who knows

 

[RayStantzLoyal]

A lot of ignorance re funding for increasing capacity on here.
It’s basically done via a mortgage scheme similar to a house extension
That’s how most clubs pay for stadium upgrades
Say you need to borrow £40 million to increase capacity by 15,000
You do this over a fixed term.
15,000 seats would increase revenue by around £6million per year (low estimate at £20 a seat accommodation of no sales etc)
£2million goes towards the borrowing & interest for 25 years
£4 million extra profit for the club
And you’re all paid off

Let's do it now.

 

[Clicker]

Didnt say that, but remove Murray, you remove his history and legacy, and UEFA cup final, Leeds games, 9iaR etc is part of that, cant have one without the other.

I would exchange all that for no Murray in our history in a heartbeat. The one thing that tarnishes my memories of Graeme Souness is that he brought his pal on board.

 

[Russ H]

The weight would cause it to collapse into a black hole

Imagine climbing to the top tier!!!! Would look like something from Everest!

 

[AldoKP]

Imagine this view opposite the Main stand.

There’s an interview with SDM where he states that the Govan was built in such a way that the roof can easily be taken off and an extra tier added with the minimum of fuss.
He was basically saying Rangers were ready and waiting for an invitation to the EPL or a discussion along those lines

 

[Blue Lou Boyle]

History rarely looks favourably on people, as recent events with snowflakery has shown.

Without SDM, 9iaR wouldnt have happened, the success/failure of his tenure is up to each person to have their own thoughts on it, but we wouldnt have the stadium as is, the training ground, the Gascoignes, Laudrups etc without his stewardship - regardless of how he drove the ship toward a black hole then bailed in an escape pod - thats just the plain simple facts behind it.

You dont know none of that would have happened.

When murray took over we had won the league 2 seasons previously, had just retained the league cup. Were top of the league playing to full houses and without question had the most talented team in scotland.

 

[Alfie shhh!]

There’s an interview with SDM where he states that the Govan was built in such a way that the roof can easily be taken off and an extra tier added with the minimum of fuss.
He was basically saying Rangers were ready and waiting for an invitation to the EPL or a discussion along those lines

I never knew that, sounds promising and I'd love a 3rd tier on the Govan.

 

[barrheadbear]

I didnt think it was going to happen , i know it would take a shitload of money to do , i was just curious how much ,ffs it was an innocent question yet some folk need to get arsy about it , people on here need to chill out a bit ffs

Sorry, wasn't having a go at you but it seems the question has been asked almost every other month this century.

I'd love too see the corners filled in, would take the overall look of the ground to another level but the exhorbitant cost is the reason it will likely never happen.

 

[Forfar_Bear]

There’s an interview with SDM where he states that the Govan was built in such a way that the roof can easily be taken off and an extra tier added with the minimum of fuss.
He was basically saying Rangers were ready and waiting for an invitation to the EPL or a discussion along those lines

He also promised us a casino and Whyte was the best man to take Rangers forward.

 

[Ubik]

Imagine climbing to the top tier!!!! Would look like something from Everest!

The castore jet pack range, only a few million

 

[Bluefin221]

History rarely looks favourably on people, as recent events with snowflakery has shown.

Without SDM, 9iaR wouldnt have happened, the success/failure of his tenure is up to each person to have their own thoughts on it, but we wouldnt have the stadium as is, the training ground, the Gascoignes, Laudrups etc without his stewardship - regardless of how he drove the ship toward a black hole then bailed in an escape pod - thats just the plain simple facts behind it.

Absolute horseshit.

 

[Russ H]

The castore jet pack range, only a few million

15% off as we have signed a player on loan!

 

[TW1988]

You dont know none of that would have happened.

When murray took over we had won the league 2 seasons previously, had just retained the league cup. Were top of the league playing to full houses and without question had the most talented team in scotland.

And you dont know that it would have, would another owner have been so chauvinistic and egotistical as to send private jets for players?

As ballsy as to appoint an assistant manager to take over from the departing manager instead of a big name appointment?

Its all speculation.

 

[TW1988]

Absolute horseshit.

Eloquently put

Thanks for your input Bluefin

 

[Harry316]

How much do we reckon it would roughly take to fix the corners and fill them with seats anyone know ?

Probably more than we can afford pal, would look nice tho.

 

[Porto Loyal]

There’s an interview with SDM where he states that the Govan was built in such a way that the roof can easily be taken off and an extra tier added with the minimum of fuss.
He was basically saying Rangers were ready and waiting for an invitation to the EPL or a discussion along those lines

Govan roof is different to the other two - it's a more 'normal' canteliver design (albeit hidden in the cladding) whereas the other two are supported by the 'goal posts'.

The other thing to consider is how many seats/places we have lost over the last 30 years - the original capacity of the new Ibrox was 44K, but we are now only at 50K having added the club deck and the corners, and twice dropped the pitch to add new rows to the stands.

We'lost capacity when we seated the enclosure and when the seating arrangements had to be amended with widened and more passage ways. If we hadn't had to make those changes, the capacity now would be nearer 55K

 

[crookie_bear]

His plan for filling in the corners would have meant restricted viewing anyway as it had column supports for the roof. I work in metal construction industry albeit not an engineer. In my view it would be huge and costly task to fill the corners all down to the goal post style supports that hold the roofs of the Copland, Govan and Broomloan stands. They would all have to be stripped down re-roofed

 

[Saturnblue]

The only thing in the Universe that can escape a black hole is the Subway Loyal around the 80 minutes mark

Subway Loyal members sitting at the top of the stand would have to start leaving at half time to make it outside before the final whistle.