Unfortunately I think you are right mate, I do hope they prove us wrong in this caseClub will not give a flying feck.
Unfortunately I think you are right mate, I do hope they prove us wrong in this caseClub will not give a flying feck.
Seville was spectacular as a host city. Spanish polis were horrendousAfter experiencing Seville, only major international cities like London, Paris, Rome, Munich etc with full service hospitality and transport infrastructure should be hosting finals. Anywhere that doesn’t have a tube network should be a non-starter.
Black plasticThat’s soul destroying.
Feels like we were stitched up and the visible comparison with both sets of fans clearly favoured EF and gave them an advantage.
Surely the German flags had bamboo canes or something similar ?
Not to mention numerous ex players and their families.I feel Rangers could have done more with this.
You just get the feeling the club couldn’t be arsed with having any sort of real fanbase in for the game.
Day trippers, employees and countless of the players families is ok though.
Seville was spectacular as a host city. Spanish polis were horrendous
Have often thought that , they never miss a chance to have a pop at usStarting to think the local plod's grandfathers were on duty in Barcelona in '72 and this is their revenge for giving them a hiding.
The club should really go to town on the this. It's clear that the Spanish and Uefa treated us and the German fans differently. It's a disgrace ,
Yip , I agree mateThe club should have sorted it out, they've let us down this week in a few ways. That's all I'll say, we've all read the threads in the build up and aftermath of the final to see the examples
I may be putting two and two together and getting something other than four, and I wasn’t in Sevilla so am only going on the various testimonies (including David Edgar on today’s H & H daily update) of those who were there and have shared their stories from which I have the impression that the Spanish authorities including the police expected our supporters to be significantly more of a problem than the Frankfurt fans, despite their having a known violent Ultras element, and us having no contemporary history of causing trouble within stadia.It's hard not to conclude that the Spanish authorities favoured the Germans over us.
That’s soul destroying.
Feels like we were stitched up and the visible comparison with both sets of fans clearly favoured EF and gave them an advantage.
Surely the German flags had bamboo canes or something similar ?
What does 1312 mean?
There were thousands of real fans there.We’re you?I feel Rangers could have done more with this.
You just get the feeling the club couldn’t be arsed with having any sort of real fanbase in for the game.
Day trippers, employees and countless of the players families is ok though.
Feel for the guys organising this to be let down so spectacularly by the Spanish Police and UEFA.Glad that UB have put the facts out there so everyone is aware of the effort involved and the disappointment.
The displays this season have been outstanding, tens of thousands of pounds spent and a lot of time and effort dedicated to making it happen.
The display in Seville would have been the biggest choreo action carried out by a UK side away from home in Europe and if not for intervention from the usual suspects, would have been a great way to end an excellent European campaign in the stands for UB.
1312
Why would anyone want to get on a fn tube?After experiencing Seville, only major international cities like London, Paris, Rome, Munich etc with full service hospitality and transport infrastructure should be hosting finals. Anywhere that doesn’t have a tube network should be a non-starter.
No.There were thousands of real fans there.We’re you?
your last paragraph is spot on broFeel for the guys organising this to be let down so spectacularly by the Spanish Police and UEFA.
I feel strongly that Rangers management did not treat this as a priority and didn't make the necessary arrangements for this to be facilitated.
It is a nonsense to suggest the Spanish favoured the Germans, more like we as a club did not make the necessary arrangements to make sure Rangers fans were accommodated at least as well as the Germans. We were let down by the club and that includes directors and management who take us for granted.
I have seen lots of unwarranted criticism of the fans in the stadium, Frankfurt fans and club were united in creating the best possible atmosphere for their team, our boards overriding priority seemed to be the fans behaviour and not upsetting our vitriolic media. Message after message over naught being naughty. Frankfurt fans went to party and support their team and this was supported by their club.
The directors have been great financially but they need to grow some balls when it comes to our songs, culture and double standards.
We won the best behaved fans award and lost the effing cup.
I was at the match, but so many around me were casual fans, and most it seemed like their first match. Every Frankfurt fan seemed to be a diehard, how did we allow this to happen?
According to Heart and Hand Rangers HAVE made a complaint to UEFA although they won't do anything, as we know.Rangers need to be calling this out, but they don't give a %^*& about the fans.
It's an absolute disgrace to add to the list of others.
Why would anyone want to get on a fn tube?
Nobody. They sneaked them in.I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere regards the German fans at the start of the 2nd half when they lit those flares they had big banners saying %^*& uefa and Acab .who checked them
Also, an interesting point…
According to ‘ultra’ message boards/social media platforms, there was another part of Frankfurts display which was also knocked back on their arrival to Seville.
This is why they chose to rip down all UEFA branded banners/advertising around their end and destroying them. It would have also been another reason to display the “%^*& UEFA 1312” message with flares.
Unless you're in EuropeBastards. Spain is like a third world country when it comes to their police. Cunts
If you were a REAL supporter you would still have went.No.
Was a stick on for a ticket if the club didn’t dish out a disgusting third of our allocation to non-supporters.
The UB statement confirms that Rangers had passed all the necessary details to UEFA and the relevant authorities and they had been agreed.Feel for the guys organising this to be let down so spectacularly by the Spanish Police and UEFA.
I feel strongly that Rangers management did not treat this as a priority and didn't make the necessary arrangements for this to be facilitated.
It is a nonsense to suggest the Spanish favoured the Germans, more like we as a club did not make the necessary arrangements to make sure Rangers fans were accommodated at least as well as the Germans. We were let down by the club and that includes directors and management who take us for granted.
I have seen lots of unwarranted criticism of the fans in the stadium, Frankfurt fans and club were united in creating the best possible atmosphere for their team, our boards overriding priority seemed to be the fans behaviour and not upsetting our vitriolic media. Message after message over naught being naughty. Frankfurt fans went to party and support their team and this was supported by their club.
The directors have been great financially but they need to grow some balls when it comes to our songs, culture and double standards.
We won the best behaved fans award and lost the effing cup.
I was at the match, but so many around me were casual fans, and most it seemed like their first match. Every Frankfurt fan seemed to be a diehard, how did we allow this to happen?
All cops are bastardsWhat does 1312 mean?
Barc’s tube was full of gypsy thievesTo get around the city after the match? Rather than having to walk the 4 and a bit miles.
Anywah there's other threads on the poor infrastructure.
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere regards the German fans at the start of the 2nd half when they lit those flares they had big banners saying %^*& uefa and Acab .who checked them
100% pal. The way I was frisked aggressively & police man jumped on my feet checking if I had bottles in my shoes. It was a joke.It was the Spanish police who were the weapons.
Germans got in with flares.
We got sunscreen taken off us.
I felt Sevilla the city was a great host. As were its citizens.I disagree, Seville was great and I didn't struggle for a beer or food.
The trouble was the stadium and the police.
I don’t think we will find that out and probably rightly so. Maybe some of the materials can be adapted and used for a future one.What would the display have looked like?
Interested in this also. Can only imagine it would’ve been special as they have been excellent all seasonWhat would the display have looked like?
Feel for the guys organising this to be let down so spectacularly by the Spanish Police and UEFA.
I feel strongly that Rangers management did not treat this as a priority and didn't make the necessary arrangements for this to be facilitated.
It is a nonsense to suggest the Spanish favoured the Germans, more like we as a club did not make the necessary arrangements to make sure Rangers fans were accommodated at least as well as the Germans. We were let down by the club and that includes directors and management who take us for granted.
I have seen lots of unwarranted criticism of the fans in the stadium, Frankfurt fans and club were united in creating the best possible atmosphere for their team, our boards overriding priority seemed to be the fans behaviour and not upsetting our vitriolic media. Message after message over naught being naughty. Frankfurt fans went to party and support their team and this was supported by their club.
The directors have been great financially but they need to grow some balls when it comes to our songs, culture and double standards.
We won the best behaved fans award and lost the effing cup.
I was at the match, but so many around me were casual fans, and most it seemed like their first match. Every Frankfurt fan seemed to be a diehard, how did we allow this to happen?
They always did. Franco and Hitler.It's hard not to conclude that the Spanish authorities favoured the Germans over us.
Exactly. The Frankfurt president would have personally been working on their interests. I'd like to know what SR was doing. This is about influencing.Going forward the Club in my opinion have to acknowledge and more importantly encourage the fact that the UB are an integral part of atmosphere creation both home and away. The Frankfurt support showed what can be achieved when the Club and their ultra groups work in unison.
A bit smarter perhaps, to know to use the small plastic poles as opposed to the bamboo canes. Experience.Get the statement to some degree, and a big fan of the UB's, but if the Spanish had such contempt for football fans why did the Germans succeed where we failed.
My impression was that the Spanish police were absolute c.unts but didn't seem to be pro German. Were the Spanish police paid off, were their arrangements more detaled and specific, did we have it in writing regarding the allowed TIFO, did the club try to support the UB's or leave them isolated with no club support?
This match was lost on many fronts and lessons need to be learned. Frankfurt were there for the taking and we beat better teams on the way. I feel our fans are treated with indifference at best from our board and contempt at worst. It's probably somewhere in the middle depending on the individual.
I don’t think anyone thought for a moment nothing was planned. It’s just sad to hear how this all unfolded because they do a fantastic job