At least at one time, you were trying to hide it but it's ripping out you now.Tillman is a downgrade.
With Aribo we reached a European final.
With Tillman we got embarrassed.
Aribo was good at helping the team win the ball back.
You described aribo perfect there, I always wished he was more aware of what’s going on around him, felt like he needed to make everything into a 1-1 with a defenderTillman is the better player.
A lot of Aribo was instinctive and off the cuff. Tillman knows what’s going on and where the ball is going before he gets it.
That said, Aribo was valuable in a number of different roles (Tillman isn’t ATM) and I loved him…could light games up with his close control.
I’d love to see both in the same team
Aribo is ahead right note, but this comment sums it up for me. Tillman will by far exceed Joes ability, in time.Tillman has a higher ceiling IMO.
Tillman has a higher ceiling IMO.
Actually Aribo had a tendency to be quite lazy defensively. It a cost us a few goals.Tillman is a downgrade.
With Aribo we reached a European final.
With Tillman we got embarrassed.
Aribo was good at helping the team win the ball back.
In time,Tillman will be the better player.I am interested in people's opinion when we compare these two players.
Is Tillman an upgrade?
I think people forget how many times Aribo used to go missing, especially in old firm games where I don’t think he was ever a stand out.Tillman is a upgrade. Aribo used to frustrate the life out of me and i am not surprised he is not trusted at his new club.
On his day win you the game and stand out like a sore thumb but how many games did he hide and he also went through months of doing very little.
Tillmans stats better already and you can see what he can provide and he is getting better.
I think people forget how many times Aribo used to go missing, especially in old firm games where I don’t think he was ever a stand out.
As you say, on his day he was genuinely brilliant but those days weren’t as often as some would have you believe. After the AFCON he was pretty anonymous most weeks but he had played a lot of football tbf.
Really nice guy with a good attitude though and hopefully gets a move to a team that suits him rather than a rotten Southampton team.
That's a very good point about their backgrounds and for me emphasises how well Tillman has progressed. However despite it being difficult to compare the two at this stage there are some stats that demonstrate that Tillman is on a par with Aribo when it comes to goals and assists per game. He may even surpass him.Tillman joined us when he was 20 years old with only a handful of professional appearances.
Aribo joined when he was 23 having played nearly 100 games for Charlton.
This makes it very difficult to compare the two at this stage.
There was plenty of times people were moaning wanting him taken off or not to start in his first couple of seasons.I always thought that was a bit of a myth, to be honest. Even when Aribo wasn't lighting up games, he was still putting in a shift and his numbers were good.
I love both players. It would be a gutter if we didn't get Tillman permanently at this point.
A bit of an oversimplified view of our Champions League campaign and it shouldn't be used as a reflection on young Tillman.This thread is for the most part completely ridiculous and exposes how football fans think like sheep, and struggle to think beyond their biases.
No one can predict the future - Tillman may evolve to become a beast of a player.
But as concerns comparisons Aribo vs Tillman, it's simple:
Aribo is top drawer, Tillman could become top drawer - but is not.
We were completely embarrassed in the champions league largely due to our inability to win the ball or keep it. Memories of Aribo and a at-the-races Morelos holding up the ball are now a mere memory.
If you think Tillman is better than Aribo you don't know much about football.
Joe Aribo scored for us in a European final and had that moment of close control ( can't remember who opponent was ) where the full of Ibrox applauded a first touch !
We reached a Euro final with Ramsey n’all. Presumably that makes him better for us than Tillman too
Joe Aribo scored for us in a European final and had that moment of close control ( can't remember who opponent was ) where the full of Ibrox applauded a first touch !
Does tillman have that In him?? I'd say is too easy to call
What I would say is tillman is starting his first year better than aribo did , so fingers crossed.
Aribo is outrageously talented but like you say, he appears to be terrified of his own shadow, which is really off for a footballer.For me Aribo is the far better player but has no confidence in himself. Tillmans numbers are slightly better than I thought at 6 goals and 5 assists in 33 games. He should get to double figures for both by the end of the season.
Big Jig better than Gazza and so on. Mad logic isn’t it.Broadfoot is better than Gough.
Big Jig better than Gazza and so on. Mad logic isn’t it.
Aribo was older, had that burst of pace in midfield that we haven't really replaced but he clearly wasn't perfect.
Tillman has time on his side, ready this slowly please he doesn't have the pace required to be absolutely top drawer but has magical feet.
An analysis of passing stats which are very important will show that Tillman has a lot of room to improve. He also gets constantly caught in possession.
Aribo was a better and more important player for us but you are not comparing apples with apples.
Back with the "genuine pace" patter.
Have to laugh at that to be honest. “Top drawer” and “beast of a player”. That’s you describing a player who regularly disappeared in the SPL and is currently struggling for game time in a dreadful Southampton side rooted to the bottom of the table.This thread is for the most part completely ridiculous and exposes how football fans think like sheep, and struggle to think beyond their biases.
No one can predict the future - Tillman may evolve to become a beast of a player.
But as concerns comparisons Aribo vs Tillman, it's simple:
Aribo is top drawer, Tillman could become top drawer - but is not.
We were completely embarrassed in the champions league largely due to our inability to win the ball or keep it. Memories of Aribo and a at-the-races Morelos holding up the ball are now a mere memory.
If you think Tillman is better than Aribo you don't know much about football.