blue barney
Well-Known Member
I am sure there was more than just stein involved in the cover up. The directors at the time really need to be exposed for their part in it. And everyone since who have silenced journalists
He's a (unt.
Maybe.
My first memory of him is as the man who replaced Ally MacLoed. I was 5 and had no idea that he was basically the patron saint of Scottish Football. I thought he was a crap manager and he never seemed to pick many Rangers players but that's by the by.
The man has been dead for over 32 years. We will only damage ourselves by pursuing this.
He failed to do the right thing when he didn’t contact the police about crimes against children. The perpetrator of those crimes went on to destroy more lives. Good manager/bad manager is all about opinions. That is a football question.Maybe.
My first memory of him is as the man who replaced Ally MacLoed. I was 5 and had no idea that he was basically the patron saint of Scottish Football. I thought he was a crap manager and he never seemed to pick many Rangers players but that's by the by.
The man has been dead for over 32 years. We will only damage ourselves by pursuing this.
I don't disagree. I just think it's counter-productive to go after a guy that's been dead 32 years. He's not exactly in a position to offer an explanation.He failed to do the right thing when he didn’t contact the police about crimes against children. The perpetrator of those crimes went on to destroy more lives. Good manager/bad manager is all about opinions. That is a football question.
But as a man he failed in his duty and children suffered and, as adults, they continue to suffer.
He has been shown, posthumously, to have behaved in a way that is less than decent.
Signed and shared.
Stein made an error of judgement in a different time. Does anybody really think he was anything less than a decent human being?
This strikes me as tit-for-tat over Gazza. The very thing we don't want to get involved in.
Nobody is removing Stein from the hall of fame. He was twice manager of the national team and we can't hide from the fact that he took those cvnts to two European Cup Finals.
This makes us look petty and opens us to accusations of point-scoring.
Stein made an error of judgement in a different time. Does anybody really think he was anything less than a decent human being?
Not really the point, covering up the sexual abuse of young boys must surely come way way above anything he accomplished at club or national level, I think most decent minded individuals would agree with that,we are talking about youngsters here.
By the sound of things you'd be more than happy to let this go, decent human beings don't protect beasts, quite simple really, this has to be followed through to the end for the sake of the individuals affected by the beast Torbett and the subsequent cover up.
Stein made an error of judgement in a different time. Does anybody really think he was anything less than a decent human being?
A decent human being lifts a phone and calls the police.This strikes me as tit-for-tat over Gazza. The very thing we don't want to get involved in.
Nobody is removing Stein from the hall of fame. He was twice manager of the national team and we can't hide from the fact that he took those cvnts to two European Cup Finals.
This makes us look petty and opens us to accusations of point-scoring.
Stein made an error of judgement in a different time. Does anybody really think he was anything less than a decent human being?
No, that's what a normal human being doesA decent human being lifts a phone and calls the police.
A decent human being dosen,t give a child abuser an award for services to a boys football club after raping young boys then being kicked out the club.Jock Stein knew and covered it up to protect the good name of this vile club.He took his dirty secret to the grave.He was a horrible human being,no if or buts am afraid.
He should have phoned the police thoughWill not go down well on here but thats nonsense. Stein got him removed, left them, then the directors let Torbett back in.
This strikes me as tit-for-tat over Gazza. The very thing we don't want to get involved in.
Nobody is removing Stein from the hall of fame. He was twice manager of the national team and we can't hide from the fact that he took those cvnts to two European Cup Finals.
This makes us look petty and opens us to accusations of point-scoring.
Stein made an error of judgement in a different time. Does anybody really think he was anything less than a decent human being?
It has been proven, on more than one occasion that Stein knew, covered up, and then let him back in to Molest children again.
Will not go down well on here but thats nonsense. Stein got him removed, left them, then the directors let Torbett back in.
It should be about football but if you were a parent and your boy or girl plays football the least you would expect was their safety while at the club they attend, imagine your horror if you found out that the people who oversee the youth club or football club had got rid of a nounce only to bring him back a few years late without letting the parents or police know I’m sure you would be non too happy.think it's about football. Stein was football giant in management. He kicked out the nons but didn't tell the polis that would have been standard in those days.......what happened after he went is the real scandal
Yes.This strikes me as tit-for-tat over Gazza. The very thing we don't want to get involved in.
Nobody is removing Stein from the hall of fame. He was twice manager of the national team and we can't hide from the fact that he took those cvnts to two European Cup Finals.
This makes us look petty and opens us to accusations of point-scoring.
Stein made an error of judgement in a different time. Does anybody really think he was anything less than a decent human being?
I'll go out on a limb here. Stuff like this makes us look like absolute fuds. There is absolutely no appetite for revising Jock Stein's thoroughly estimable record as a terrific manager nor should there be.