2 players to Hearts on loan?

[im_a_good_bluenose]

jambo in work beside who has been pretty spot on with info in the past, says today Levein is working hard to bring two Rangers players in on a season long loan but wouldn’t name names.
Anyone heard anything about this?
*dont shoot the messenger I’m only asking a question about what I’ve been told and have no idea if there is any mileage in it or not*

 

[Rooster]

Lafferty and Dorrans?

 

[47blue]

Dorrans and Lafferty would be my guess.

 

[Crispy Bacon]

Hopefully Middleton or someone who can cause problems to other teams. Did he ever go to Doncaster?

 

[MainStandLoyal]

I’d rather we didn’t to be honest. Sending them there to play a horrible style of football.

 

[The Moon on Mars is Blue]

Dorrans and Lafferty would be my guess.

Would be good for everyone concerned.

 

[TN8]

Really hope not.

 

[LD5]

Thought you could only loan one player out to a club in the same league?

 

[Walters80]

If they want these players on loan then they should pay at least 70-80% of the wages plus a loan fee.

That mob played hardball with us over Jamie Walker losing money on him just to spite us.

Unless it’s financially beneficial to Rangers we shouldn’t lift a hand to help them out one bit.

 

[Klaus]

Really hope not.

We need to strengthen other SPL sides without our outward loans being allowed to play against us imo.

 

[AmsterdamBear]

Sending players of a decent standard out to other SPFL clubs is something we have missed in recent years.

The filth have players at most clubs strengthening their side vs us and then unable to play versus the tramps.

I loathe to assist any other SPFL club but there's a bit of an indirect benefit to us doing this.

 

[Ter]

Only one player can be loaned to a team in the same league so your mate is wrong or getting information mixed up.

A free transfer and a player on loan would be more realistic. Especially with so many surplus to requirements.

 

[rangeral]

Hopefully Middleton or someone who can cause problems to other teams. Did he ever go to Doncaster?

No as the manager left Doncaster

 

[Roskoranger]

Their fans hate us and were instrumental in us arriving at he third division. Do not give any SPFL team any of our players.

 

[RenfrewBear72]

Lafferty and Dorrans hopefully.
Help us take some points off the paedos.

 

[Alfredo_Morelos]

It could be Nick A. Teen and Al K. Hall.

 

[sheddensbear]

Really hope not.

Why not ? Dislike of Hearts ? Style of play ? I'd let players go anywhere if it suited Rangers.

 

[Rangerstillidie]

I’d rather we didn’t to be honest. Sending them there to play a horrible style of football.

They have no future here so what does that matter?

 

[anglarna_ger]

Only one player can be loaned to a team in the same league so your mate is wrong or getting information mixed up.

A free transfer and a player on loan would be more realistic. Especially with so many surplus to requirements.

Could happen if one of them is a young player. Development loans don't count towards it

 

[Stockport bear]

Jason Holt would be an obvious one

 

[TN8]

Why not ? Dislike of Hearts ? Style of play ? I'd let players go anywhere if it suited Rangers.

Och, I suppose I'm just still a wee bit sore about that time them and 9 other clubs tried to put Rangers out of existence. Not really in the mood to be helping them out with a couple of players. Must just be me, wit ma like eh?

 

[anglarna_ger]

Och, I suppose I'm just still a wee bit sore about that time them and 9 other clubs tried to put Rangers out of existence. Not really in the mood to be helping them out with a couple of players. Must just be me, wit ma like eh?

Three clubs tried to force us out of existence and forced the hands of another six, but I get the point.

 

[DeeGer10]

Loaning players actually works out well if they play every week. Benefits us as the team pick up points elsewhere with our better players but they need to take them out when playing us.

 

[TibbsyBear]

Why anyone would be against this is baffling.

Why would people care about the style of football if it is Lafferty and Dorrans Hearts are interested in?

They won’t be Rangers players next season.

Hearts are capable of taking points off the scum so if we can provide some assistance there, great.

 

[Tagsbear]

Jason Holt would be an obvious one

If he hadn't already left then aye.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

This comes up all the time and I have, let's say, reservations. I think many underestimate the hatred fans of other clubs have for us.

A Rangers player on loan at a Scottish club is up against it - from all sides. Results start to go the wrong way - it's the Rangers loanee whos going to get it in the neck from fans. Manager under pressure - it's the Rangers loanee he's going to drop to appease the fans. Imagine Ross McCrorie at Hearts making a 50/50 challenge - the media and other fans all over it demanding the CO takes action.

Some might say that helps a young lad prepare for life at Rangers. For sure, they will face those pressures at Rangers. However, a young lad going on loan is doing it to 'make his mistakes' and learn from them. He's going there to gain the confidence that playing regularly comes from. They can 'learn' about the pressure when they come back. I think Gerrard has it right in sending them to League 1 and League 2 down South where they can mature as a person away from the comforts of home, where they can play without the glare of the Scottish media and all that it brings and where, generally, they can be guaranteed game time.

That said, the foregoing is all related to younger players going on loan. If, as some have suggested, it could be Lafferty and/or Dorrans that is a different prospect entirely. We would not be seeking to develop those guys - just get them out the door.

 

[BlueLagoonCo]

I agree with the Rangers first fuk the rest, but I wouldn't be against building relationships with 1 or 2 clubs to loan our players to and get dibs on up and coming youngsters. Hearts, Dundee, Hamilton and Killie. Killie were fine until the alkie started his offended pish

 

[Tagsbear]

Och, I suppose I'm just still a wee bit sore about that time them and 9 other clubs tried to put Rangers out of existence. Not really in the mood to be helping them out with a couple of players. Must just be me, wit ma like eh?

If it helped them take points off Celtic then it would be benefitting us more than punting them down south.

 

[BlueLagoonCo]

This comes up all the time and I have, let's say, reservations. I think many underestimate the hatred fans of other clubs have for us.

A Rangers player on loan at a Scottish club is up against it - from all sides. Results start to go the wrong way - it's the Rangers loanee whos going to get it in the neck from fans. Manager under pressure - it's the Rangers loanee he's going to drop to appease the fans. Imagine Ross McCrorie at Hearts making a 50/50 challenge - the media and other fans all over it demanding the CO takes action.

Some might say that helps a young lad prepare for life at Rangers. For sure, they will face those pressures at Rangers. However, a young lad going on loan is doing it to 'make his mistakes' and learn from them. He's going there to gain the confidence that playing regularly comes from. They can 'learn' about the pressure when they come back. I think Gerrard has it right in sending them to League 1 and League 2 down South where they can mature as a person away from the comforts of home, where they can play without the glare of the Scottish media and all that it brings.

That said, the forgoing is all related to younger players going on loan. If, as some have suggested, it could be Lafferty and/or Dorrans that is a different prospect entirely. We would not be seeking to develop those guys - just get them out the door.

There is still a big element of Hearts fans that have a soft spot for us, well the staunch Unionists that hate the mentally challengeds anyway.

 

[Sutton_Blows_goats]

If it helped them take points off Celtic then it would be benefitting us more than punting them down south.

This x 10

 

[giogaddi]

Hearts can simply GTF. Give them absolutely nothing Rangers.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

There is still a big element of Hearts fans that have a soft spot for us, well the staunch Unionists that hate the mentally challengeds anyway.

They must all be hiding under a rock somewhere then.

 

[giogaddi]

If they want these players on loan then they should pay at least 70-80% of the wages plus a loan fee.

That mob played hardball with us over Jamie Walker losing money on him just to spite us.

Unless it’s financially beneficial to Rangers we shouldn’t lift a hand to help them out one bit.

This. Some people have short memories.

 

[TheJuice]

If he hadn't already left then aye.

I missed this one, I saw the speculation about QPR but nothing after it. Where did he go?

 

[anglarna_ger]

I missed this one, I saw the speculation about QPR but nothing after it. Where did he go?

He hasn't left

 

[TibbsyBear]

Hearts can simply GTF. Give them absolutely nothing Rangers.

Seems a bit like cutting your nose off to spite to your face.

What if these two apparent loanees helped to take valuable points from the scum?

 

[giogaddi]

I genuinely despair sometimes. As if the potential of Hearts taking a couple of extra bonus points off Celtic is worth us doing business with them after their behaviour.

 

[BlueLagoonCo]

They must all be hiding under a rock somewhere then.

I follow quite a few on twitter. You hear the Rangers Da bandied about but the Hearts Da are the ones that are pro Indy SNP and make their hatred known for us.

 

[rangeral]

If he hadn't already left then aye.

I missed this one, I saw the speculation about QPR but nothing after it. Where did he go?

He hasn't left us yet

Still our player

 

[Tagsbear]

I thought he'd signed for someone already, sorry lads.

 

[tazzabear]

Would be good for everyone concerned.

For us, only in a financial sense and, even then, only if Hearts are picking up a decent percentage of their salaries.
Obviously, these aren’t the guys who’d be getting development for us for the future.

 

[Ter]

Could happen if one of them is a young player. Development loans don't count towards it

I think they are all classed as development loans these days and are allowed to play for their parent club in the Challenge Cup, Reserve League, Reserve Cup and Reserve Challenge Cup.

Still limited to 1 from a club in the same division or 2 if in a different division.

If that was the case then we would see more than 1 player on loan to teams in same division and more than 2 in other divisions.

 

[Coplandbear]

If they pick up the wages fair enough if not they can %^*& off.

 

[TheLeatherKagool]

Make them a better team to potentially hurt our rivals and helps out financially??

No brained!

 

[Ally’s Golden Boot]

Why anyone would be against this is baffling.

Why would people care about the style of football if it is Lafferty and Dorrans Hearts are interested in?

They won’t be Rangers players next season.

Hearts are capable of taking points off the scum so if we can provide some assistance there, great.

This man gets it.

 

[TibbsyBear]

I genuinely despair sometimes. As if the potential of Hearts taking a couple of extra bonus points off Celtic is worth us doing business with them after their behaviour.

Are you actually saying that Hearts taking 3 or 6 points off Celtic couldn’t have a major impact on the destination of the title?

I expect things to be extremely tight this season so 3 or 6 points could be absolutely massive.

If you think ‘a few extra points’ will be insignificant are you assuming that either us or the scum will be running away with the title?

 

[giogaddi]

Seems a bit like cutting your nose off to spite to your face.

What if these two apparent loanees helped to take valuable points from the scum?

If they want Dorrans and Lafferty then they can buy them. Otherwise, they should be told to fcuk off.

 

[giogaddi]

Are you actually saying that Hearts taking 3 or 6 points off Celtic couldn’t have a major impact on the destination of the title?

I expect things to extremely tight this season so 3 or 6 points could be absolutely massive.

I'm genuinely saying a club who wanted us dead should be given absolutely zero favours from us. That's what I'm saying.

 

[TibbsyBear]

I'm genuinely saying a club who wanted us dead should be given absolutely zero favours from us. That's what I'm saying.

So if Celtic won the league it’s ok as long as we haven’t done Hearts any favours?

 

[drgriffen]

If they want Dorrans and Lafferty then they can buy them. Otherwise, they should be told to fcuk off.

And if they help taking points off the Tims?

We aren't doing them a favour. We would be taking a practical decision to help us - if there aren't any better alternatives.