Sheik Ma Shammy
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Katic and anyone else I rate him better than Goldson who at times even last night is too casual.
Agree mate.Stevie G mentioned a back 3 could be deployed in certain games.Tav and Barasic bombing with a real height threat at set piecesThe boy Edmundson looks like a very decent player.
I think he's good enough to seriously warrant a think about a back 3 rather than attempt a 2 from 4 scenario. I think a back 3 with 2 industrious attack minded wide men could be quite exciting in a lot of games...especially if we have a natural weakness/lack of real quality at full back.
I wouldn't be deploying Tav and Barasic if we were 3 at the back. I'd want proper/ natural wide men in that role.Agree mate.Stevie G mentioned a back 3 could be deployed in certain games.Tav and Barasic bombing with a real height threat at set pieces
Goldson is our best defender by a fair distance so him and one of the other 3 to partner him. Must’ve won about 20 out of 20 headers tonight.
Based on last season and what you’ve seen of the two new CBs, who would be your first-choice CB pairing at this moment in time?
For me, it’s Katić and Edmundson.
I’m not deliberately trying to stir things up, but Goldson might just be our fourth-best centre back.
He’s prone to mess up defensively and quite often gets caught in possession when he’s on the ball – yet he seems to be beyond criticism, whereas Katić does one thing wrong and is bombed out for weeks.
I’ve obviously not seen enough of Helander yet to make an informed judgement.
So, based on current form, I’d be playing Edmundson alongside my first pick, Katić.
Katić is a superb defender – and our biggest goal threat in the air.
I know a lot of people say he’s overrated on FF – I’d counter that by saying it’s actually Goldson who’s overrated.
That said, to have four players of a more than decent standard for CB is a very good problem to have.
Anyone but Goldson. Amazing how many people rate him. He is so poor imo.
Katic and anyone else I rate him better than Goldson who at times even last night is too casual.
Might be wrong, but I've got a feeling Katic is 4th choice in Gerrard's eyes.
His blunder for the only goal we've conceded this season probably hasn't helped him.
We're very fortunate to have 4 excellent central defenders.
Yes, we have good options its personal choice for me I think last year we broke up the strongest part of our team to shoehorn in Worrall and it cost us.
I certainly don’t think Goldson has the right to be an automatic pick this season. We have 4 good options, assuming Helander is here to play, I’d have Edmunson next to him now based on current form.
Edmundson was really good last night, surprisingly good actually. Never realised he was that quick and can hit great long rage passes and strong in the tackle. Defo gonna give the boss a headache for his best cb pairing.
As long as they can produce chancesI wouldn't be deploying Tav and Barasic if we were 3 at the back. I'd want proper/ natural wide men in that role.
Very few of our players are automatic picks this season, which can only be a good thing.
It's a good thing if all the tinkering doesn't affect the players over the season.
He's that poor that every game he's played so far we haven't conceded a goal.
Dont remember him missing a single challenge last night.
We have played no-one. We were lucky not to concede against a part time team from Gibraltar and got away with one last night vs another very poor side. Goldson is dreadful in 1v1's, always seems to be running behind the attacker and I don't rate his positional awareness at all. A 21 year old signed from Oxford looks far more comfortable and competent than him, that says it all for me.
Who's the 21 year old from Oxford?
We nearly conceded in Gibraltar twice because of Katic losing his man at a set piece and then heading a ball back into the danger area and allowing their player to get a shot off.
Katic was also to blame for the goal v Blackburn.
Gerrard has seen all these and decided to play Edmundson ahead of Katic.
Goldson never missed a challenge last night.
However, we've got 4 excellent central defenders and just like Katic just now, if Goldson's form drops then he'll be replaced.
Exactly how it should be.
I never mentioned Katic once, I'm talking about Goldson and he's not a good defender. We all know who is getting dropped for Helander and I can tell you right now it will cost us.
Another superb game from Katić, our best centre-back.
Goldson is our best defender by a fair distance so him and one of the other 3 to partner him. Must’ve won about 20 out of 20 headers tonight.
Is he feck!Goldson is our best central defender but his distribution let's him down at times.
I would say Goldson is the weakest of the back fourIs he feck!
Ffs any two but Goldson he is absolute bombscare.It’s going to be goldson and helander no matter what we think . The gaffer bought helander as a left footer to play with goldson .
Having said that Edmundsen will have given him a huge headache with his performances so far . He hasn’t put a foot wrong and although it’s early days he looks an absolute steal at £650k and also looks utterly determined to learn . I’ll feel sorry for him dropping down to the bench .
Big Katic is competing with Goldson for his place . Goldson has his critics , and for example last night is prone to being caught on the hop sometimes , however his general reading of the game, consistency and anticipation still make him our best CH that’s my opinion and obviously the managers at the moment . Katic will have his games though throughout the season .
My one concern is when Helander and Goldson are paired - do they have enough pace between them to cover another’s error , and could they cope with a really fast centre forward ?
We also need a left back to complete the back line but that’s another story .